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Hahn1900

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Come on, man! Bella HERSELF told you what happened, for crying out loud!

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Basically, she cheated on him with a family friend. He found out and left.

Period.

This mentally retarded idea of the deceased husband must stop, damnit!
Yeah i think we must stop these theories too... played just recently a jill and bella playthrough... well lets face it, it is kinda obvious what happend. (maybe too obvious and thats the reason to go ooff the trail and coming up with other theories)

Bella fooled around with Jill or was about to do so. Husband left, and she is a mental mess after that.

Whats behind the locked door? I for one will go with a kink room... she is the only character in the whole game who likes to be dominant or switches to be submissive (nope, quinn isnt a dominant or submissive girl... she is just a bitch and is bitchy, that is not the same as to be dominant for a kink). yeah i think its a BDSM thing in that room and she hides it. I think sometimes we forget... its a porngame after all.

I was running other theories too, like dead husband and some kind of "shrine" behind the door... but nah... and i dont think she was "ahllucinating" or something like that in the flashback... these are only some misleading hints by DPC to hide the obvious thing that Jill isnt that innocent.

And that would explain why Jill is so angry after she caught MC and bella "in the act" (angry if you dont go for Jill, heartbroken of course if you have something with jill, but the angry part goes for Bella, thats obvious)
 

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angry if you dont go for Jill, heartbroken of course if you have something with jill
IDK, to me she is very upset and angry if you had something going with Jill, but if it was only Bella route she is more shocked than angry, kind of "Holy shit!!....What do I even say to her????!?!?"

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then he would close the channel where he listens to the problems they have and rely only on testers he trusts, if the precondition is that they are all monkeys with no hands any feedback is basically useless

if you don't want them to use a mod, when they do use it you make sure they know about it, if instead you generate a generic crush you are the one who is asking the handless monkeys to mess up and then complain about it

anyway yes, until proven otherwise I consider anyone reasonable and I think rules should be made on that basis, otherwise we are back to kindergarten
Youre a better person than me thats for certain as you expect the better. Wish I had that hope of yours. And Im not saying im any better than the average person either, I must have done the same stupid kinda something. Several times probably, but shit like that ones own brain tend to forget as we judge ourselves based on our intent instead of our actions. And we remember the intention if anything at all. So instead I hug the dog, play a game like BaDIK, read a book or eat a meal and get filled with happy brain chemicals and hope im not the colossal idiot in too many other peoples memory.
 

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Come on, man! Bella HERSELF told you what happened, for crying out loud!

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Basically, she cheated on him with a family friend. He found out and left.

Period.

This mentally retarded idea of the deceased husband must stop, damnit!
But there is more to it.

When the mc stays with Bella after the M&J drama unfolds, she has these thoughts while hugging him:

Bella: "(What if James comes home?)"​
Bella: "(Would he blame me if I did this?)"​
Bella: "(After all this time?)"​
Bella: "(I have forgiven him...)"​

So she's forgiven him. What did he do? If she cheated on him, he found out and left, is she forgiving him for leaving a cheating spouse? Nah, there's gotta be more to it.

And who can forget the library scene:

mc: "At the time I couldn't understand Bella."​
mc: "The attraction was there, but for her it felt so wrong."​
mc: "I remember feeling bad about kissing a married woman."​
mc: "I figured she felt the same since she was being unfaithful to her husband..."​
mc: "...which, of course, is a very big deal."​
mc: "But if I had known the real reasons to her tears..."​
mc: "...and to her persona..."​
mc: "I wouldn't have kissed her that night."​
mc: "I would have called out for help."​

By the end of episode 8 she has seemingly come to terms with her relationship with the mc, but nothing has come to pass that warranted the mc's thoughts, "I would have called out for help."

Other than the opening scene where the mc talks to us directly to set the scene, this is the only other time where he alludes to future events.

Also, his future self is telling us he wouldn't have kissed her that night if he knew what he knows now. By the end of episode 8 we're thinking "Looks like it's turning out OK with Bella" (except perhaps for the Jill bomb), but the mc knows more than that, he knows how it eventuates with Bella, and he's saying he wouldn't have kissed her. Is he saying that because he realises it was selfish to push her at that exact moment, or is it he realises she had serious problems?

If that turns out to be nothing, there will be no defence for the bagging DPC receives.

Yeah i think we must stop these theories too... played just recently a jill and bella playthrough... well lets face it, it is kinda obvious what happened. (maybe too obvious and thats the reason to go ooff the trail and coming up with other theories)

Bella fooled around with Jill or was about to do so. Husband left, and she is a mental mess after that.

Whats behind the locked door? I for one will go with a kink room... she is the only character in the whole game who likes to be dominant or switches to be submissive (nope, quinn isnt a dominant or submissive girl... she is just a bitch and is bitchy, that is not the same as to be dominant for a kink). yeah i think its a BDSM thing in that room and she hides it. I think sometimes we forget... its a porngame after all.

I was running other theories too, like dead husband and some kind of "shrine" behind the door... but nah... and i dont think she was "ahllucinating" or something like that in the flashback... these are only some misleading hints by DPC to hide the obvious thing that Jill isnt that innocent.

And that would explain why Jill is so angry after she caught MC and bella "in the act" (angry if you dont go for Jill, heartbroken of course if you have something with jill, but the angry part goes for Bella, thats obvious)
If the locked room turns out to be a "50 Shades of Grey" BDSM room, it'll be laughable.

All this drama surrounding Bella, the sadness, the distancing, the wrestling with conscience, the ambiguity, and it just ends up she's a dom mistress?

No I think that would be fucking stupid.

There is a tragedy in Bella's past, and it comes from more than just a simple marriage breakup. That room has to be the key.
 
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BigBlueDude

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Come on, man! Bella HERSELF told you what happened, for crying out loud!

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Basically, she cheated on him with a family friend. He found out and left.

Period.

This mentally retarded idea of the deceased husband must stop, damnit!
But there is more to it.

When the mc stays with Bella after the M&J drama unfolds, she has these thoughts while hugging him:

Bella: "(What if James comes home?)"​
Bella: "(Would he blame me if I did this?)"​
Bella: "(After all this time?)"​
Bella: "(I have forgiven him...)"​

So she's forgiven him. What did he do? If she cheated on him, he found out and left, is she forgiving him for leaving a cheating spouse? Nah, there's gotta be more to it.

And who can forget the library scene:

mc: "At the time I couldn't understand Bella."​
mc: "The attraction was there, but for her it felt so wrong."​
mc: "I remember feeling bad about kissing a married woman."​
mc: "I figured she felt the same since she was being unfaithful to her husband..."​
mc: "...which, of course, is a very big deal."​
mc: "But if I had known the real reasons to her tears..."​
mc: "...and to her persona..."​
mc: "I wouldn't have kissed her that night."​
mc: "I would have called out for help."​

By the end of episode 8 she has seemingly come to terms with her relationship with the mc, but nothing has come to pass that warranted the mc's thoughts, "I would have called out for help."

Other than the opening scene where the mc talks to us directly to set the scene, this is the only other time where he alludes to future events.

If that turns out to be nothing, there will be no defence for the bagging DPC receives.



If the locked room turns out to be a "50 Shades of Grey" BDSM room, it'll be laughable.

All this drama surrounding Bella, the sadness, the distancing, the wrestling with conscience, the ambiguity, and it just ends up she's a dom mistress?

No I think that would be fucking stupid.

There is a tragedy in Bella's past, and it comes from more than just a simple marriage breakup. That room has to be the key.
Plus how her friendship with Jill started. They are too many years apart imo and are too close to each other for it to be something minor. Whatever it is its major, it have to be. A simple divorce is not major and how can Jill and Bella relate to each other with that? That scene early on in the library is haunting me and what made me invested in Bella. If its not hard hitting DPC is absolutely terrible and an awful writer.
 

shazba

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Plus how her friendship with Jill started. They are too many years apart imo and are too close to each other for it to be something minor. Whatever it is its major, it have to be. A simple divorce is not major and how can Jill relate to that with Bella? That scene early on in the library is haunting me and what made me invested in Bella. If its not hard hitting DPC is absolutely terrible and an awful writer.
I agree, if the revelation isn't very serious, the next time someone bags DPC's writing, I'll be like, "Yep". Arigon, DavDR, you guys can hold me to that. :p

Regarding Jill though, my guess. due to the age difference, is that Bella was a friend of Lana. She knows what happened with Lana and she formed a bond with Jill. Explains why she is so protective over her too.
 

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Yay, we're back to Bella's theories! :p I'll re-write again some of my personal theories, cause I live for this shit:

- It's proven that Jill 'does stuff' in her sleep. The reason why Bella was cautious wasn't because she did stuff with Jill, but because Jill might have used her the same way she used Tremolo's hand when he slept in the same bed with her. If this actually happened, it wasn't Bellas fault, but she'd still feel guilty cause she's supposed to be the adult, and the wiser one. (And Jill is just a friend, and a younger student).

- Personally, I had a theory that involved Bella being sexually assaulted in a library (remember the mental breakdown she had with MC while in the library). James witnessed what happened in there and he thought it was concensual, so he abandoned Bella (like packing his things and just vanishing without contacting her again, or asking for a divorce). That's why Bella is mad that he left, but at the same time she feels guilty and is unable to move on. She expects that someday he'll come back to his senses and return home.

- I don't think she willingly had a 3way with the Burkes (Jade mentions they tried to convince her, as if it didn't actually happened). I think that sleazy Burke kept acting weirdly towards her, which makes her feel disgusted and betrayed (And Maybe the Burkes were her friends before that. If true, this would explain her dislike for Jade, the disgust for Burke, the reason why she hates Tybalt and why she didn't expect much from Sage when she first met her.

- Locked door? I don't think it has Jame's rotting corpse in it, I bet it's gonna be something as simple as having some of the stuff James left behind when he abandoned her.

Nothing further, your honor.
 

BigBlueDude

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Do we even know what age Isabella is? Or is that information "conveniently" never told so the player can imagine her at any mature age they prefer? Ive probably missed it somewhere.

If not, lets give her a generous (comically really) low age of 34? Shes about the same age as Jade and Stephen which have 21ish year old children (at least one of which is adopted) so they are for sure around 40-45. Doesnt Stephen claim they are about the same age in that row about cheating, that Isabella is almost their age? (Personally ive been thinking of her as 40, Jade+Stephen as 45 but anyway)

Jill is 21ish now. How old was she in the flashback with Lana? Teenager i think, say 13 then and Lana was at least 18 i should think, maybe a year or two more. That could create a 26 year old Bella and a 18-20 year old Lana being friends? Sure could work.

Yay, we're back to Bella's theories! :p I'll re-write again some of my personal theories, cause I live for this shit:

- It's proven that Jill 'does stuff' in her sleep. The reason why Bella was cautious wasn't because she did stuff with Jill, but because Jill might have used her the same way she used Tremolo's hand when he slept in the same bed with her. If this actually happened, it wasn't Bellas fault, but she'd still feel guilty cause she's supposed to be the adult, and the wiser one. (And Jill is just a friend, and a younger student).

- Personally, I had a theory that involved Bella being sexually assaulted in a library (remember the mental breakdown she had with MC while in the library). James witnessed what happened in there and he thought it was concensual, so he abandoned Bella (like packing his things and just vanishing without contacting her again, or asking for a divorce). That's why Bella is mad that he left, but at the same time she feels guilty and is unable to move on. She expects that someday he'll come back to his senses and return home.

- I don't think she willingly had a 3way with the Burkes (Jade mentions they tried to convince her, as if it didn't actually happened). I think that sleazy Burke kept acting weirdly towards her, which makes her feel disgusted and betrayed (And Maybe the Burkes were her friends before that. If true, this would explain her dislike for Jade, the disgust for Burke, the reason why she hates Tybalt and why she didn't expect much from Sage when she first met her.

- Locked door? I don't think it has Jame's rotting corpse in it, I bet it's gonna be something as simple as having some of the stuff James left behind when he abandoned her.

Nothing further, your honor.
Oh, now that would be interesting. Sexual assault is certainly heavy enough stuff to carry with you. And a runaway Lana could easily have suffered something similar.
 
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- It's proven that Jill 'does stuff' in her sleep. The reason why Bella was cautious wasn't because she did stuff with Jill, but because Jill might have used her the same way she used Tremolo's hand when he slept in the same bed with her. If this actually happened, it wasn't Bellas fault, but she'd still feel guilty cause she's supposed to be the adult, and the wiser one. (And Jill is just a friend, and a younger student).
I think this is most likely too. I don't think it's related to James' disappearance.
 
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Come on, man! Bella HERSELF told you what happened, for crying out loud!

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Basically, she cheated on him with a family friend. He found out and left.

Period.

This mentally retarded idea of the deceased husband must stop, damnit!
I never pushed the James is dead theory. In fact, I'm saying the opposite. My point is, the return should not be dragged out any longer. If DPC is going to make James return, then it needs to happen soon, like ep 9/10 soon, not later. This silliness with her husband drama has been going on for too long without answers.
 

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I never pushed the James is dead theory. In fact, I'm saying the opposite. My point is, the return should not be dragged out any longer. If DPC is going to make James return, then it needs to happen soon, like ep 9/10 soon, not later. This silliness with her husband drama has been going on for too long without answers.
So in ep 10 James returns claims Bella and the snowflake leaves B&R for good... the end ! :KEK: Guess this is a scenario for Arigons taste :rolleyes::LOL:
 

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I'm not back home from vacation yet, so I haven't begun to catch up on my reading. Still, I wanted to leave you with at least some idiocy while I'm out:



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I can't count the number of times I've passed that highway exit heading for the Florida beaches, but for the last couple years my wife thinks my chuckle is still just a nod to the Forrest Gump reference.

What happens in F95...
 
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Do we even know what age Isabella is? Or is that information "conveniently" never told so the player can imagine her at any mature age they prefer? Ive probably missed it somewhere.

If not, lets give her a generous (comically really) low age of 34? Shes about the same age as Jade and Stephen which have 21ish year old children (at least one of which is adopted) so they are for sure around 40-45. Doesnt Stephen claim they are about the same age in that row about cheating, that Isabella is almost their age? (Personally ive been thinking of her as 40, Jade+Stephen as 45 but anyway)

Jill is 21ish now. How old was she in the flashback with Lana? Teenager i think, say 13 then and Lana was at least 18 i should think, maybe a year or two more. That could create a 26 year old Bella and a 18-20 year old Lana being friends? Sure could work.
When Bella talks about the beginning of her college days, she mentions it was 18 years ago. Let's assume she started when she was 18, so she should be around 36 years old.

In the Lana flashback, Jill would more likely have been 6 or 7, definitely not 13, unless she was a retarded kid... oh... :p, nah, she was just a little kid at the time.

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So back to ages, my estimates are:

Bella:36
Jill: 21
Flashback Lana: 21 or 22 (if she was to be Bella's age)
Flashback Jill: 6 or7
 

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I'm currently having a problem playing the game. I've downloaded and extracted, but there doesn't seem to be a start button, and the interlude button is greyed out. Any help would be appreciated!
 

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Yeah i think we must stop these theories too... played just recently a jill and bella playthrough... well lets face it, it is kinda obvious what happend. (maybe too obvious and thats the reason to go ooff the trail and coming up with other theories)

Bella fooled around with Jill or was about to do so. Husband left, and she is a mental mess after that.

Whats behind the locked door? I for one will go with a kink room... she is the only character in the whole game who likes to be dominant or switches to be submissive (nope, quinn isnt a dominant or submissive girl... she is just a bitch and is bitchy, that is not the same as to be dominant for a kink). yeah i think its a BDSM thing in that room and she hides it. I think sometimes we forget... its a porngame after all.

I was running other theories too, like dead husband and some kind of "shrine" behind the door... but nah... and i dont think she was "ahllucinating" or something like that in the flashback... these are only some misleading hints by DPC to hide the obvious thing that Jill isnt that innocent.

And that would explain why Jill is so angry after she caught MC and bella "in the act" (angry if you dont go for Jill, heartbroken of course if you have something with jill, but the angry part goes for Bella, thats obvious)
Honestly, If I were to guess I would say it was with Lana and not Jill. From how it seems Bella and James havent been together in quite sometime. If thats the case going by Jills age she could of possibly been under the age of 18 if they fooled around. Im gonna go out on a limb and say Jill who is super vanilla wouldnt be doing things at that age.

Lana was more of the rebel of the family and would have been closer to Bella in age. It would explain why Bella and Jill are so close now because of how good of friends Lana and Bella were before hand. Also could explain why Lana hasnt been around, She left after breaking up Bella and James marriage. And why Bella has stayed so close to Jill because she knows how much Jill loved Lana and is trying to be the sister figure since she left.
 
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