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QuixoteTheDon

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That is missing a few important parts for Jill. You need to be Chick or Neutral and if you don't choose her instead of Sage her whole route is closed off. I could be wrong but I don't think she actually needs to do the recital to stay on her path. Take that with a grain of salt though because it's so easy to help her no matter what route your on that I've never actually not done it.
You can play a perfectly Dikish Neutral MC and still get with Jill. :WeSmart: The game is not forcing you to be a whipped little pusykunt. You can punch Tybalt, knock his teeth out, ruin his presentation with a dik pic, fuck Josy, heavy pet Maya, fuck Sage, fool with Bella, fuck a bunch of sidegirls, choose to NOT actually help Jill with her performing in a concert anxiety... AND STILL get her in the end!:illuminati:

Sure a little balancing is in order to swing the MC affinity to neutral from DIK, but the choices are easy to make for me: Don't beat up Troy, dont beat up Tommy, help Steve, flush the test in the toilet.

Hell, the MC can even totally righteously freak out on her when she goes tattle tailing to Burke about the Chad fight.
But just be nice to her rest of the times, she meant well, has a nice ass and most importantly is a VIRGIN
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Actually, it's kind of baffling that the most important choice you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to make, if you want Jill, is to GO ON THAT FLUKE RANDOM DATE with her. I mean the MC is a friend with Sage and can go take care of her in purely friendly non romantic fashion. That's what friends do... but nooooo, JILL WILL REJECT YOU! Even if you are the king of pusykunts to the point that MC's dik starts falling off from being utterly emasculated.:WutFace:

yeah my dik fell off.JPG

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You can play a perfectly Dikish Neutral MC and still get with Jill. :WeSmart: The game is not forcing you to be a whipped little pusykunt. You can punch Tybalt, knock his teeth out, ruin his presentation with a dik pic, fuck Josy, heavy pet Maya, fuck Sage, fool with Bella, fuck a bunch of sidegirls, choose to NOT actually help Jill with her performing in a concert anxiety... AND STILL get her in the end!:illuminati:

Sure a little balancing is in order to swing the MC affinity to neutral from DIK, but the choices are easy to make for me: Don't beat up Troy, dont beat up Tommy, help Steve, flush the test in the toilet.

Hell, the MC can even totally righteously freak out on her when she goes tattle tailing to Burke about the Chad fight.
But just be nice to her rest of the times, she meant well, has a nice ass and most importantly is a VIRGIN
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Actually, it's kind of baffling that the most important choice you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to make, if you want Jill, is to GO ON THAT FLUKE RANDOM DATE with her. I mean the MC is a friend with Sage and can go take care of her in purely friendly non romantic fashion. That's what friends do... but nooooo, JILL WILL REJECT YOU! Even if you are the king of pusykunts to the point that MC's dik starts falling off from being utterly emasculated.:WutFace:

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Be kind is a general advice, and not mandatory

If you will be ALWAYS kind, you will not have problem

But if you will almost ever MEAN to her, you could however win her hart

In the paths there are few choice that make difference, with every lis not only Jill of course
 

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The game is not forcing you to be a whipped little pusykunt
I never said anything of the sort. Sure you can keep swinging between the affinities but you have to know what your doing to pull it off. Regardless you still have to be neutral or chick by the end of episode eight to stay with her. And yeah, absolutely having to go with her or else was one of the weakest choices DPC made with her route.
 

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Be kind is a general advice, and not mandatory

If you will be ALWAYS kind, you will not have problem

But if you will almost ever MEAN to her, you could however win her hart

In the paths there are few choice that make difference, with every lis not only Jill of course
Being kind is always a sound advice.

I forgot to mention other crucial choice for getting with Jill in the end besides the random date:
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You have to fight for her.

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Being kind is always a sound advice.

I forgot to mention other crucial choice for getting with Jill in the end besides the random date:
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The creampie option is there no matter what. Fighting for her just keeps you on her route to get to that point.
 

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The creampie option is there no matter what. Fighting for her just keeps you on her route to get to that point.
What I'm trying to say is that for anyone playing the game who wants his/her MC to end up with Jill, they only have to do just 3 things:

Be neutral or chick affinity. Fight for Jill when the option shows up. Go on a date with her.

That's it. :BootyTime:
 

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What I'm trying to say is that for anyone playing the game who wants his/her MC to end up with Jill, they only have to do just 3 things:

Be neutral or chick affinity. Fight for Jill when the option shows up. Go on a date with her.

That's it. :BootyTime:
Oh... The way your post was set up I thought you meant you had to fight for her for that option to show since you showed the fight for Jill choice and a spoiler with "to get this" with the emphasis on creampie. That one's on me.
 
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What I'm trying to say is that for anyone playing the game who wants his/her MC to end up with Jill, they only have to do just 3 things:

Be neutral or chick affinity. Fight for Jill when the option shows up. Go on a date with her.

That's it. :BootyTime:
And in the End of her Path we have to Marry her. But then she will finally show us her True Face. :ROFLMAO:

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:ROFLMAO:
 

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For real. What is Jill's secret/endgame ?
Jill doesn't have a secret endgame, other than making the MC her subservient object of affection. Everything she has done so far makes it look like she'll be the domineering one in the relationship, except in the bedroom (so far). What you want or like doesn't matter unless it's what she wants/likes. The only person important to Jill is Jill. (and maybe Bella)
What the hell is in Bella's Room ?
That is a mystery. I personally think it's just most of her absent husband's possessions. She couldn't stand seeing all the constant reminders of him around the house so she packed it away into a room.
And what happened between them ?
As demonstrated, Jill is a sleep-humper. She only got the MC's hand (or not at all, if he was wearing the helmet and had a defense). Bella does not wear a penis helmet, ergo she was victimized. Maybe they were both fairly tired and things got a bit out of hand (not a pun) between them before Bella put a stop to things. This would readily explain why Jill had offered to sleep on the couch, because sharing a bed with Bella in the past lead to misbehaving.

There is a lot that hasn't been answered in the game, however, and I suspect some of it never will be. Like the truth about Jill's sister.
 

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Jill doesn't have a secret endgame, other than making the MC her subservient object of affection. Everything she has done so far makes it look like she'll be the domineering one in the relationship, except in the bedroom (so far). What you want or like doesn't matter unless it's what she wants/likes. The only person important to Jill is Jill. (and maybe Bella)
Sadly that does seem to be the case. She used to be my go-to in this one but the more I saw of the whole situation the more I was put off by it. It's Josy for the win now. Even with the extra baggage I still think she loves the MC the most.
I don't think DPC intended for her to be interpreted as such.

Sure we love to hate on her face, and she's stubborn when she wants to help (like my mother-in-law who won't take no for an answer when she's offered you something, "No, I don't want another cup of team, I've had 5 already, I'm not being polite, I just don't want another fucking cup!")... ahem... anyway, I think she comes across as a typically kind person, a little simple, but definitely kind.

I've ranted about the way she dumps the mc before (that she actually dumps him is fine, just doing it in public the way she does is insensitive, but she'd finally stood up to Tybalt and wasn't particularly in her usual frame of mind), but while the catalyst that sends us down that path of rejection is not going on the picnic, the picnic was a pivotal moment in her story.

At the picnic, other than just more one-on-one bonding between the two, Jill gets to air the situation about Tybalt's blackmail, and the mc get to respond, passionately: There's the rain, the making out, the jug-fondling... it was all very significant.

If you miss the picnic, Jill just tells the mc in the halls of the college, it's all rather sterile, and their relationship doesn't progress. That then snowballs into other events not happening (the morning run, the date with friends, the hot sex...)

It's actually OK that she decided to back out.

But if you look at her track record, she does care about others:
  • When they first meet, she helps him up seeing he was the victim of bullying.
  • We know she's working on a campaign to help people (don't know if it's about bullying or drugs or something like that, but it's obviously meant to help)
  • She's friendly and offers to show Josy around when she finds out she missed orientation
  • She is genuinely concerned for the mc when he's beat up by Chad, that's why she keeps suggesting the hospital (sure she doesn't get that not everyone can afford hospital fees)
  • She tries only to speak kindly to people, and give them the benefit of the doubt (hence why it take her so long to tell Tybalt to fuck off)
  • She only has good intentions when she sets up the meet with the counsellors after the Chad fight. Sure if she checked with the mc first he would have explained it wasn't a good idea, except it actually was a good idea. The Alphas have to leave him alone, and if he asks for leniency on Chad, it clears the air on those two. And even if that ultimately lead to their mansion being trashed, the DIKs have only grown because of it.
  • She organised a lovely impromptu picnic for him on his birthday - sure we all hate that picnic, but for unrelated reasons.
  • She feels genuine sadness for the mc when she hears the bittersweet story of his birthday.
  • She was aware of his potential discomfort when meeting her friends and she did what she could to help.
  • She's really concerned for Cathy after the Cathy Cluck event.
I'm not sure where the idea that she's domineering comes from:
  • She finally had enough at the restaurant and blew up, but that's about the only time we've seen her like that.
  • She is stubborn about the hospital because she thinks it's serious that the mc is woozy after being hit. But she backs down and respects the mc's wishes in the end.
  • She was the one to plan the tennis date, but it was the mc that asked to go out with her in the first place.
  • She did organise the meeting with the counsellors, but bullying is something she takes very seriously
  • It was the mc's own determination that had him climbing her balcony to play music for her
  • Same as it was the mc climbing her balcony to make out with her the night of Jill's solo performance (and I'm not talking about the piano solo :sneaky:)
  • On a number of occasions the mc initiated making out with her. The first time she initiated a kiss (other than the good night cheek peck) was on Bella's couch, but it was the mc that turned it into something more.
  • She did stop his advances from going too far, and she has every right to. That'll be less likely now.
  • She is quite introspective and possibly even suffers low self esteem, even when stopping the mc's advances she second guesses herself.
  • She did organise the picnic, but when the mc turned her down, she didn't make a scene or make him feel guilty. She amicably accepted it. And while it was the catalyst to end their relationship, it's not like she thought, "You turned me down?! You're dumped!" Shit just turned out that way. Sometimes that's just how the cookie crumbles.
  • When it came to sex, she initiated it, but only because it was clear to her that the mc had already initiated it ages ago, he was just waiting for her to be ready, but once it began, he drove the whole thing.
  • She's upset (not mad) as she starts to feel jealousy when the truth about the mc's philandering hits her.
  • She graciously wins or loses the tennis games. While she plays hard, it's not about the winning for her.
So to say she wants a subservient guy doesn't ring true to me.

I actually think their relationship is quite healthy. Each has their own boundaries (ok, let's be realistic, the mc has no fucking boundaries whatsoever :sneaky:, unless Jill has a strap-on under her bed :eek:), let me rephrase that, they respect each other's boundaries. They both put in somewhat equal effort into the relationship. They do care about each other. It's not just about sex. They each make time for each other.

To me, she is a very beautiful girl, with a fantastic body and a kind, gentle personality, who has a fucked up smile and is very protective of her friends, who is a little naïve when it comes to guys and relationships.

That's not to say that she wouldn't drive you crazy with all her destiny shit, and stubborn do-gooders can be a pain in the ass! :rolleyes:
 

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I don't think DPC intended for her to be interpreted as such.

Sure we love to hate on her face, and she's stubborn when she wants to help (like my mother-in-law who won't take no for an answer when she's offered you something, "No, I don't want another cup of team, I've had 5 already, I'm not being polite, I just don't want another fucking cup!")... ahem... anyway, I think she comes across as a typically kind person, a little simple, but definitely kind.

I've ranted about the way she dumps the mc before (that she actually dumps him is fine, just doing it in public the way she does is a insensitive, but she'd finally stood up to Tybalt and wasn't particularly in her usual frame of mind), but while the catalyst that sends us down that path of rejection is not going on the picnic, the picnic was a pivotal moment in her story.

At the picnic, other than just more one-on-one bonding between the two, Jill gets to air the situation about Tybalt's blackmail, and the mc get to respond, passionately: There's the rain, the making out, the jug-fondling... it was all very seminal.

If you miss the picnic, Jill just tells the mc in the halls of the college, it's all rather sterile, and their relationship doesn't progress. That then snowballs into other events not happening (the morning run, the date with friends, the hot sex...)

It's actually OK that she decided to back out.

But if you look at her track record, she does care about others:
  • When they first meet, she helps him up seeing he was the victim of bullying.
  • We know she's working on a campaign to help people (don't know if it's about bullying or drugs or something like that, but it's obviously meant to help)
  • She's friendly and offers to show Josy around when she finds out she missed orientation
  • She is genuinely concerned for the mc when he's beat up by Chad, that's why she keeps suggesting the hospital (sure she doesn't get that not everyone can afford hospital fees)
  • She tries only to speak kindly to people, and give them the benefit of the doubt (hence why it take her so long to tell Tybalt to fuck off)
  • She only has good intentions when she sets up the meet with the counsellors after the Chad fight. Sure if she checked with the mc first he would have explained it wasn't a good idea, except it actually was a good idea. The Alphas have to leave him alone, and if he asks for leniency on Chad, it clears the air on those two. And even if that ultimately lead to their mansion being trashed, the DIKs have only grown because of it.
  • She organised a lovely impromptu picnic for him on his birthday - sure we all hate that picnic, but for unrelated reasons.
  • She feels genuine sadness for the mc when she hears the bittersweet story of his birthday.
  • She was aware of his potential discomfort when meeting her friends and she did what she could to help.
  • She's really concerned for Cathy after the Cathy Cluck event.
I'm not sure where the idea that she's domineering comes from:
  • She finally had enough at the restaurant and blew up, but that's about the only time we've seen her like that.
  • She is stubborn about the hospital because she thinks it's serious that the mc is woozy after being hit. But she backs down and respects the mc's wishes in the end.
  • She was the one to plan the tennis date, but it was the mc that asked to go out with her in the first place.
  • She did organise the meeting with the counsellors, but bullying is something she takes very seriously
  • It was the mc's own determination that had him climbing her balcony to play music for her
  • Same as it was the mc climbing her balcony to make out with her the night of Jill's solo performance (and I'm not talking about the piano solo :sneaky:)
  • On a number of occasions the mc initiated making out with her. The first time she initiated a kiss (other than the good night cheek peck) was on Bella's couch, but it was the mc that turned it into something more.
  • She did stop his advances from going too far, and she has every right to. That'll be less likely now.
  • She is quite introspective and possibly even suffers low self esteem, even when stopping the mc's advances she second guesses herself.
  • She did organise the picnic, but when the mc turned her down, she didn't make a scene or make him feel guilty. She amicably accepted it. And while it was the catalyst to end their relationship, it's not like she thought, "You turned me down?! You're dumped!" Shit just turned out that way. Sometimes that's just how the cookie crumbles.
  • When it came to sex, she initiated it, but only because it was clear to her that the mc had already initiated it ages ago, he was just waiting for her to be ready, but once it began, he drove the whole thing.
  • She's upset (not mad) as she starts to feel jealousy when the truth about the mc's philandering hits her.
  • She graciously wins or loses the tennis games. While she plays hard, it's not about the winning for her.
So to say she wants a subservient guy doesn't ring true to me.

I actually think their relationship is quite healthy. Each has their own boundaries (ok, let's be realistic, the mc has no fucking boundaries whatsoever :sneaky:, unless Jill has a strap-on under her bed :eek:), let me rephrase that, they respect each other's boundaries. They both put in somewhat equal effort into the relationship. They do care about each other. It's not just about sex. They each make time for each other.

To me, she is a very beautiful girl, with a fantastic body and a kind, gentle personality, who has a fucked up smile and is very protective of her friends, who is a little naïve when it comes to guys and relationships.

That's not to say that she wouldn't drive you crazy with all her destiny shit, and stubborn do-gooders can be a pain in the ass! :rolleyes:
There is no denying that she is kind, almost to much for her own good a times. But on the other hand I can't help but think she is also incredibly selfish as well. She doesn't have to make a big scene, she is still secretly shutting the other person out. It's worse if you ask me because the MC thinks everything is fine. As for the picnic being pivotal sure, but she just springs it on the MC and expects him to just go with her. If you don't she basically says "Fuck it. It's not meant to be so why try at all?".
 

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I don't think DPC intended for her to be interpreted as such.

Sure we love to hate on her face, and she's stubborn when she wants to help (like my mother-in-law who won't take no for an answer when she's offered you something, "No, I don't want another cup of team, I've had 5 already, I'm not being polite, I just don't want another fucking cup!")... ahem... anyway, I think she comes across as a typically kind person, a little simple, but definitely kind.

I've ranted about the way she dumps the mc before (that she actually dumps him is fine, just doing it in public the way she does is insensitive, but she'd finally stood up to Tybalt and wasn't particularly in her usual frame of mind), but while the catalyst that sends us down that path of rejection is not going on the picnic, the picnic was a pivotal moment in her story.

At the picnic, other than just more one-on-one bonding between the two, Jill gets to air the situation about Tybalt's blackmail, and the mc get to respond, passionately: There's the rain, the making out, the jug-fondling... it was all very significant.

If you miss the picnic, Jill just tells the mc in the halls of the college, it's all rather sterile, and their relationship doesn't progress. That then snowballs into other events not happening (the morning run, the date with friends, the hot sex...)

It's actually OK that she decided to back out.

But if you look at her track record, she does care about others:
  • When they first meet, she helps him up seeing he was the victim of bullying.
  • We know she's working on a campaign to help people (don't know if it's about bullying or drugs or something like that, but it's obviously meant to help)
  • She's friendly and offers to show Josy around when she finds out she missed orientation
  • She is genuinely concerned for the mc when he's beat up by Chad, that's why she keeps suggesting the hospital (sure she doesn't get that not everyone can afford hospital fees)
  • She tries only to speak kindly to people, and give them the benefit of the doubt (hence why it take her so long to tell Tybalt to fuck off)
  • She only has good intentions when she sets up the meet with the counsellors after the Chad fight. Sure if she checked with the mc first he would have explained it wasn't a good idea, except it actually was a good idea. The Alphas have to leave him alone, and if he asks for leniency on Chad, it clears the air on those two. And even if that ultimately lead to their mansion being trashed, the DIKs have only grown because of it.
  • She organised a lovely impromptu picnic for him on his birthday - sure we all hate that picnic, but for unrelated reasons.
  • She feels genuine sadness for the mc when she hears the bittersweet story of his birthday.
  • She was aware of his potential discomfort when meeting her friends and she did what she could to help.
  • She's really concerned for Cathy after the Cathy Cluck event.
I'm not sure where the idea that she's domineering comes from:
  • She finally had enough at the restaurant and blew up, but that's about the only time we've seen her like that.
  • She is stubborn about the hospital because she thinks it's serious that the mc is woozy after being hit. But she backs down and respects the mc's wishes in the end.
  • She was the one to plan the tennis date, but it was the mc that asked to go out with her in the first place.
  • She did organise the meeting with the counsellors, but bullying is something she takes very seriously
  • It was the mc's own determination that had him climbing her balcony to play music for her
  • Same as it was the mc climbing her balcony to make out with her the night of Jill's solo performance (and I'm not talking about the piano solo :sneaky:)
  • On a number of occasions the mc initiated making out with her. The first time she initiated a kiss (other than the good night cheek peck) was on Bella's couch, but it was the mc that turned it into something more.
  • She did stop his advances from going too far, and she has every right to. That'll be less likely now.
  • She is quite introspective and possibly even suffers low self esteem, even when stopping the mc's advances she second guesses herself.
  • She did organise the picnic, but when the mc turned her down, she didn't make a scene or make him feel guilty. She amicably accepted it. And while it was the catalyst to end their relationship, it's not like she thought, "You turned me down?! You're dumped!" Shit just turned out that way. Sometimes that's just how the cookie crumbles.
  • When it came to sex, she initiated it, but only because it was clear to her that the mc had already initiated it ages ago, he was just waiting for her to be ready, but once it began, he drove the whole thing.
  • She's upset (not mad) as she starts to feel jealousy when the truth about the mc's philandering hits her.
  • She graciously wins or loses the tennis games. While she plays hard, it's not about the winning for her.
So to say she wants a subservient guy doesn't ring true to me.

I actually think their relationship is quite healthy. Each has their own boundaries (ok, let's be realistic, the mc has no fucking boundaries whatsoever :sneaky:, unless Jill has a strap-on under her bed :eek:), let me rephrase that, they respect each other's boundaries. They both put in somewhat equal effort into the relationship. They do care about each other. It's not just about sex. They each make time for each other.

To me, she is a very beautiful girl, with a fantastic body and a kind, gentle personality, who has a fucked up smile and is very protective of her friends, who is a little naïve when it comes to guys and relationships.

That's not to say that she wouldn't drive you crazy with all her destiny shit, and stubborn do-gooders can be a pain in the ass! :rolleyes:
I guess you played the game then... :KEK: AND you were paying attention... :eek: Sadly this all will be just a memory in a few hours and the whole bullshit starts again :rolleyes:
 
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