VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Meushi]

Check the Patreon Monthly diagram: 3years span. He constantly raised his numbers till ep. 8 release. Since then the trend has reversed.

Your diagram shows no real change in the last 6 months. Maybe you're the one having trouble understanding how graphs work.

Three three year span is meaningless since that started from 0. Here are the last two years.

Err, I don't claim to be a stats guy, but based on those graphs it's clear that Ottoeight's point that DPCs Patreon numbers have been in a sustained declining trend since Nov 2021 is true, and that it's a departure from the norm. The bar graphs show that yes, there's a dip the month after each release, but after that each month the numbers steadily increase to the next release peak. That hasn't been the case this year, there was a minor bump for the Interlude, otherwise it's been downhill every month. It's starkly obvious in the line graph.

I'm sure he'll get another big peak with 0.9, it's what's between the major releases that's different at the moment.

So, DrPinkCake, dude, I know you won't read this, but I hope and I pray that you have realized by now that you need to release shorter and faster updates for your own sake, the game's sake and our damn sanity's sake.

Based on what? All his big peaks & sustained growth were from big, slow releases. The Interlude was a shorter, faster update & did next to nothing to halt the decline trend. I suspect the decline has little to do with DPCs release cycle:

Interestingly, if you look at other developers, Dark Cookie, Phillygames, there's a similar slump

Somewhat controversial Interlude release that some sought to skip, easing COVID restrictions, loss of Russian subscribers, global economic slump may all contribute to reduced growth in subscriptions.

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over the last 6 months.

 

[Ottoeight]

Each release has resulted in a spike greater than the release before.

And the current state is still greater than the April release last year.

It looks like the Interlude caused a minor hump, not a spike, but that was to be expected (who would subscribe just for that?)

Currently we're in the slump between releases.

Wait until the next release to be able to make a better assessment.

There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

 

[ename144]

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There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

I'm not sure I'd call it plummeting, but there is a downward trend in 2022. The question is why. I think it's more likely an indication that people no longer have as much excess money to through at things like Patreon.

What I don't think the data shows is that DPC needs to release faster updates because the upward slope of Patreons you show corresponds to increasing development time:

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So either people only started worrying about development time after Season 2 ended, or there is some other phenomenon at work. I vote the latter.

 

[babaraj]

Define " best girl(s) " and not from your point of view... Hard task just saying...

Hey sorry off topic, I tried apk by brandy from your border.. it says app not installed:/

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

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There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

That's what you want to see in this diagram. If you wanted, you could make one that shows that he needs longer updates because that way he gets more patrons when it's released

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[felicemastronzo]

That's what you want to see in this diagram. If you wanted, you could make one that shows that he needs longer updates because that way he gets more patrons when it's released

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Please don't sugest anything!!!! DPC reads everything!!! Please!!

 

[Cabin Fever]

Stats aside, am I the only one who feels that DPC is pushing the limit of "time between releases" and is edging dangerously close to the cliff edge of "it's been too long, I can't remember half of my previous choices, my interest has waned, it's time to move on"?

 

[godkingxerxes]

Please don't sugest anything!!!! DPC reads everything!!! Please!!

Embrace the fact that we're entering into 8-9 month per update cycle now. Gone are the 6 months per update.

Episode 9 - September 2022
Episode 10 - June 2023
Episide 11 - March 2024
Episode 12 - December 2024

 

[AchedCroissant]

 

[felicemastronzo]

Embrace the fact that we're entering into 8-9 month per update cycle now. Gone are the 6 months per update.

Episode 9 - September 2022
Episode 10 - June 2023
Episide 11 - March 2024
Episode 12 - December 2024

I live on illusions, don't wake me up

 

[yoylord]

I live on illusions, don't wake me up

Belive in your dreams

 

[Cabin Fever]

Embrace the fact that we're entering into 8-9 month per update cycle now. Gone are the 6 months per update.

Episode 9 - September 2022
Episode 10 - June 2023
Episide 11 - March 2024
Episode 12 - December 2024

But but but badly interpreted and poorly calculated stats shows an average of less than 5 months between releases! I have illogical, stupid, and blind faith that episode 9 will be released soon!

 

[JETracktor]

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Still looks much better than bitcoin

 

[Lostanddamned]

Stats aside, am I the only one who feels that DPC is pushing the limit of "time between releases" and is edging dangerously close to the cliff edge of "it's been too long, I can't remember half of my previous choices, my interest has waned, it's time to move on"?

I doubt that he's slacking off the updates to milk his patreons. I think his OCD just kicks in and he obsesses over everything to the smallest detail.

Though what worries me is that we clearly are getting very close to the one update per year schedule and if DPC ever starts losing motivation or hits an artist's block, this might be left on hold for some time or even be left unfinished.

We are still at least 4 years away from it being completed and that's a very long time to keep a project fresh and people interested in it.

 

[Lostanddamned]

I live on illusions, don't wake me up

Do you also like Arigon believe that episode 12 will be the last one?

 

[Cabin Fever]

I doubt that he's slacking off the updates to milk his patreons. I think his OCD just kicks in and he obsesses over everything to the smallest detail.

Though what worries me is that we clearly are getting very close to the one update per year schedule and if DPC ever starts losing motivation or hits an artist's block, this might be left on hold for some time or even be left unfinished.

We are still at least 4 years away from it being completed and that's a very long time to keep a project fresh and people interested in it.

I didn't say anything about milking. All I'm saying is that his episodes are too big and are taking too long to come out. In every episode in season 2 there was a somewhat logical transitional point that can split it into 2 roughly equal releases without much effort.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Do you also like Arigon believe that episode 12 will be the last one?

Illusions, not reality denial... I am only half mad

 

[Lostanddamned]

I didn't say anything about milking. All I'm saying is that his episodes are too big and are taking too long to come out. In every episode in season 2 there was a somewhat logical transitional point that can split it into 2 roughly equal releases without much effort.

There's also the issue about the episode size - like he has to put some limits to it. If he intends to do each episode bigger than the last one, by the time we get to episode 18-19 one episode will probably be the size of the entire season 1 and we'll have to wait 2 years for an episode.

 

[Cabin Fever]

There's also the issue about the episode size - like he has to put some limits to it. If he intends to do each episode bigger than the last one, by the time we get to episode 18-19 one episode will probably be the size of the entire season 1 and we'll have to wait 2 years for an episode.

By the time we get to Episode 18-19? No way. The entire season 1 was 6.1GB. Episode 8 by itself was 5GB. Even the interlude was 2.6GB and it wasn't even half of the size of episode 8. We'll have a single episode surpassing the size of the entire season 1 within the next episode or two.

 

[Casiope]

By the time we get to Episode 18-19? No way. The entire season 1 was 6.1GB. Episode 8 by itself was 5GB. Even the interlude was 2.6GB and it wasn't even half of the size of episode 8. We'll have a single episode surpassing the size of the entire season 1 within the next episode or two.

I'm still waiting for the 4K patch that will bring the game over 100 GB.