VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[shazba]

Sry nah, not in this game... you have to switch between DIK and CHICK choices in a way that it makes just no sense at all if you want to be a "neutral" guy who doesnt step on other toes...

Of course, youre right... to be a "neutral" guy is some complete normal thing, in real life... but in this game? The choices you have to make are either chick or dik, NEVER neutral (in between). So youre forced to jump back and forth the entire time to be neutral, but that is not neutral at all, its shizo.

like: "come on i beat up troy" and than "yeah i beat up the jocks too, oh wait, no i cant i have to be neutral so i dont fight them now cause this would be another dik point, i need the chick point now" really, you think that is a "neutral way" to be? aha

In staying neutral this game just makes no sense like this... and DPC should have considered that more, like implement neutral choices too, but there are none.

I don't think it's schizo to choose an assortment of DIK and Chick affinity options.

Here are all the affinity oriented choices, and the highlighted are my typical options:

• Fight Troy or storm out
• Accept or reject Quinn's offer
• Leave Steve or Talk to him
• Fight Jocks or run off
• Progress things with Jade or stop her
• Party without limits at Strip club or don't
• Smoke Weed with Quinn or don't
• Fight Caleb or Walk away
• Punch Tybalt or Walk away
• Fight Tommy or don't fight
• Use Fake ID or Stay Home
• Go to Strip club or volunteer for Old folks home
• Evict the Alphas from the HOTs party or ignore them
• Study the answers in toilet or flush them (or just walk away)
• Get revenge on the nerds or calm Derek down

Those options only just scrape it into the DIK permanent affinity, as 11 choices either way lock you in.

If someone wanted to do the above but avoid fighting and choose to hang with the Madame, it would result in a neutral mc:

• Fight Troy or storm out
• Accept or reject Quinn's offer
• Leave Steve or Talk to him
• Fight Jocks or run off
• Progress things with Jade or stop her
• Party without limits at Strip club or don't
• Smoke Weed with Quinn or don't
• Fight Caleb or Walk away
• Punch Tybalt or Walk away
• Fight Tommy or don't fight
• Use Fake ID or Stay Home
• Go to Strip club or volunteer for Old folks home
• Evict the Alphas from the HOTs party or ignore them
• Study the answers in toilet or flush them (or just walk away)
• Get revenge on the nerds or calm Derek down

This would be the "Lover not a Fighter" path.

Hold up, didn't he say he already workked on the big threesome scene? If so, then that "big threesome scene" is separate from this new threesome scene that he is working on for M&J (and they certainly need one by ep. 9). So who is the other threesome with?

Although I would love another Cammy/Riona, we had one already and I think it will be someone new. Same with Quinn/Sage. I doubt it is going to be Zoey. She would have MC before anyone else. Besides, she wasn't interested in sex during entire San Diego, so I really doubt she is suddenly going to whore it up with a bunch of strangers at B&R either. (And if Zoey/Madame, I riot ). So who else? More strippers? No, again that would be retreading old ground. I think the devil's threesome is on the menu with either JB/Elena...or maybe a lesser chance with Tommy/Heather.

Could it be Bella/Jill?
No, it would be nice, but Jill still has her jealousy points to work on and DPC isn't so kind as to give fans such a bounty. I just hope it isn't with a couple of randos like that one with fish lips and meth mouth in toilet stall at the dorm party.

Not sure if DPC is going down the MMF path, but it could be Elena & John boy.

But it's most likely a couple of the vixens.

 

[Deleted member 4572181]

Concerning Sage:

Yes, she may finish college earlier than MC, but it is not like she lives elsewhere.

She lives in the city that B&R is located.

She could very well keep seeing MC on a very regular basis.

There is no need for her to move far away, unless DPC wants to write it for the sake of the storytelling.

 

[myukimo]

Concerning Sage:

Yes, she may finish college earlier than MC, but it is not like she lives elsewhere.

She lives in the city that B&R is located.

She could very well keep seeing MC on a very regular basis.

There is no need for her to move far away, unless DPC wants to write it for the sake of the storytelling.

Sage knows everything that happens at school, she was the one who stole your guitar, not Chad. Everything except that Chad is gay .
Not to mention that she is Mona's mother and she gave Mona the list of tests "sleeping with her stepfather" ,There are many crazy theories

 

[always86]

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I playtested and polished parts of the episode last week. It was a very nice experience. No matter how you play the episode, it will be a long one.

I also wrote some remaining scenes, including a long scene for the Josy and Maya branch and some lewd scenes. Furthermore, I posed some animations and static renders.

As promised, for today, I've attempted to summarize the current status of the Episode 9 development.

I'll start with the stats and give my general take on the development at the end.

Work completed:

• 2815 renders (2694 renders produced, 121 in the render queue)
• 205 animations (179 animations produced, 26 in the render queue)
• 13 songs
• 2 sound effects
• 23747 written lines of code for story + free roam events. It's the biggest episode in terms of content, based on this number alone. Episode 8 had 22055 lines of code, 7% less by this standard.

Work that remains:

• Make static renders for 69 written scenes of various lengths.
• Make animations and static renders, and write for a few lewd scenes.
• Write and make art for ~15 more scenes.
• Make static renders for Jill's special render set.
• Make some missing GUI for the new mini-game.
• Write some code needed for other mini-games.
• Add music
• Add SFX
• Add phone content (Rooster, Phone chats/Calls, Bios, Stats, Pack Quest, Vault)
• Add collectibles (special renders/2D art/scenes)
• Make art and update the main menu with Season 3 art.
• Playtest and polish
• Verify bug fixes from the Interlude.

Overall completion:
My best shot at estimating a completion % right now is:

Static renders: 65-70%

Animations: 68%

Writing/Coding: 90%

Render and animation numbers are based on a target of ~4000 renders and 300 animations; subject to change if needed. The writing/coding percentage is my gut feeling.

All-in-all, this list of tasks looks standard to me. I'm feeling confident and also happy about it. The art takes the longest time to produce, and we've come a long way since the Interlude was released. I usually fly through the rest of the task list faster when it's time to make it.

Take this report with a grain of salt. Things will get clearer with every passing week.

Now we all have a better understanding of the state of development.

I will push on with writing, and static renders next week and soon switch focus to animating again.

Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Well I think it's a November release based on this. He's averaging a little over 8 animations completed a week and a little under 123 statics. Based on 1306 statics to render that's 11 weeks, October 14th plus beta time. 121 animations will essentially take a scratch under 15 weeks, plus beta time we're talking 11th November plus two weeks beta time. So a release window of October 28th to November 25th.

A few ways it could arrive sooner. 1. DPC is overestimating how much content he has left. 2. He could cut back on some scenes. 3. He is misrepresenting his progress. (I think this would be dumb and isn't likely).

This is the renders progress table. Finally passed episode fives static render level, but in fairness to 5 it released two weeks earlier in the development cycle.



The animation table looks like this. Animations have now surpassed 5 and 6 but not by much and episode 5 and 6 already released.

 

[Skeltom]

I have to disagree, having a neutral affinity does not mean the MC have no opinion, it shows that his opinion is not DIK or CHICK but other. I i have a neutral affinity i clearly decided for this, also IRL you can be neutral but having your own opinion. Neutral also means sometimes, i agree with both or with none of them.

That's true and all and could be said about whatever affinity you choose but I personally don't care for it at all. In a day to day sense you are going to make different choices and having choices locked out of a game because the game says you haven't played correctly to choose or see them just limits the players for no reason at all. I stops players from exploring the game on account of some imaginary karma system. It just stops you from making your own choices now that it is "permanent", it wasn't so bad before the hard lock.

 

[Brocolli666]

Do we have an unmodded apk for s1s2? Scrappy's mod messes with the dik chick points.

 

[Hahn1900]

jamieandsally

Just made an new playthrough, its been a while since i played the game with full attention... strikes me everytime that you find some "new" things that slipped through before.

Early on in episode 2 Jamie is dancing with Sally here... Jamies Girlfriend (Dany) was almost pregnant... Sally behaved kinda strange in the last episodes, could be a pretty good bet that she might be the pregnant girl, and Jamie might be the one?

 

[always86]

Well I think it's a November release based on this. He's averaging a little over 8 animations completed a week and a little under 123 statics. Based on 1306 statics to render that's 11 weeks, October 14th plus beta time. 121 animations will essentially take a scratch under 15 weeks, plus beta time we're talking 11th November plus two weeks beta time. So a release window of October 28th to November 25th.

A few ways it could arrive sooner. 1. DPC is overestimating how much contect he has left. 2. He could cut back on some scenes. 3. He is misrepresenting his progress. (I think this would be dumb and isn't likely).

This is the renders progress table. Finally passed episode fives static render level, but in fairness to 5 it also two weeks earlier in the development cycle.

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The animation table looks like this. Animations have now surpassed 5 and 6 but not by much and episode 5 and 6 already released.

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Just to illustrate the forcasted release window, here are the tables with the current averages upto and including his production targets plus two weeks beta testing.





Even though we know he's produced a higher average in previous releases, he's showed no evidcene of a significant uptick in this whole cycle.

Perhaps he could start beta testing while the last couple of dozen animations render and use placeholders but that doesn't really feel like his style.

 

[dalli_x]

A little hint of Cathy's Rooster Cluck?

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[myukimo]

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Who is the first person to call MC "AssFace"?

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

"including a long scene for the Josy and Maya branch"

Hopefully DPC is talking about the scene where Maya gets run over by a bus. Twice.

 

[Deleted member 1590926]

Hold up, didn't he say he already workked on the big threesome scene? If so, then that "big threesome scene" is separate from this new threesome scene that he is working on for M&J (and they certainly need one by ep. 9). So who is the other threesome with?

Although I would love another Cammy/Riona, we had one already and I think it will be someone new. Same with Quinn/Sage. I doubt it is going to be Zoey. She would have MC before anyone else. Besides, she wasn't interested in sex during entire San Diego, so I really doubt she is suddenly going to whore it up with a bunch of strangers at B&R either. (And if Zoey/Madame, I riot ). So who else? More strippers? No, again that would be retreading old ground. I think the devil's threesome is on the menu with either JB/Elena...or maybe a lesser chance with Tommy/Heather.

Could it be Bella/Jill?
No, it would be nice, but Jill still has her jealousy points to work on and DPC isn't so kind as to give fans such a bounty. I just hope it isn't with a couple of randos like that one with fish lips and meth mouth in toilet stall at the dorm party.

I checked with DPC and it's Magnar/Sally. You can rest now

 

[Thargor]

I don't think it's schizo to choose an assortment of DIK and Chick affinity options.

Here are all the affinity oriented choices, and the highlighted are my typical options:

• Fight Troy or storm out
• Accept or reject Quinn's offer
• Leave Steve or Talk to him
• Fight Jocks or run off
• Progress things with Jade or stop her
• Party without limits at Strip club or don't
• Smoke Weed with Quinn or don't
• Fight Caleb or Walk away
• Punch Tybalt or Walk away
• Fight Tommy or don't fight
• Use Fake ID or Stay Home
• Go to Strip club or volunteer for Old folks home
• Evict the Alphas from the HOTs party or ignore them
• Study the answers in toilet or flush them (or just walk away)
• Get revenge on the nerds or calm Derek down

Those options only just scrape it into the DIK permanent affinity, as 11 choices either way lock you in.

If someone wanted to do the above but avoid fighting and choose to hang with the Madame, it would result in a neutral mc:

• Fight Troy or storm out
• Accept or reject Quinn's offer
• Leave Steve or Talk to him
• Fight Jocks or run off
• Progress things with Jade or stop her
• Party without limits at Strip club or don't
• Smoke Weed with Quinn or don't
• Fight Caleb or Walk away
• Punch Tybalt or Walk away
• Fight Tommy or don't fight
• Use Fake ID or Stay Home
• Go to Strip club or volunteer for Old folks home
• Evict the Alphas from the HOTs party or ignore them
• Study the answers in toilet or flush them (or just walk away)
• Get revenge on the nerds or calm Derek down

This would be the "Lover not a Fighter" path.



Not sure if DPC is going down the MMF path, but it could be Elena & John boy.

But it's most likely a couple of the vixens.

I tried replaying it to get a save without pursuing Jade, but that really messed up the choices i would normally make, so that i could still unlock scenes in between which require a specific affinity.

 

[Deleted member 4572181]

I checked with DPC and it's Magnar/Sally. You can rest now

Threesome is gonna be Sally and Karen...

 

[jaw1986baby]

Threesome is gonna be Sally and Karen...

Shit man

I would throw EVERY other woman out the window to get a throuple with Sally and Karen

Petite nerds and one is a redhead


BEST 3some ever

 

[Ernatio D]

DIK isn't a direct synonym for asshole; the MC will be more blunt, hotheaded and profane, but he's still fundamentally the kid Neil raised. Meanwhile CHICKs are calmer and more measured, but you'll still become a de facto leader of the DIKs.

Besides, you don't necessarily need to go all in on DIK/CHICK. Permanent DIK Affinity requires making 11 Major DIK decisions by the end of Chapter 8. That means you can make up to 4 CHICK decisions safely (of vice versa). So if you don't want the MC to be the sort of man who would solicit prostitution or sleep with a professor, you can just pick the CHICK options at those crises. Likewise if you want your CHICK MC not to back down from a fight, you can play him that way (though that will use up most of your indulgences).

Now we don't know how Affinity will be handled in Season 3+, so it's possible you'll eventually be railroaded into choices you don't like. But given DPC added Neutral options to Major Decisions in Episode 8, I think that's unlikely. I think your individual decision are more likely to cause problems than your Affinity.



Eh, I'd say the odds are good DPC is either trolling or the eventual line will be an extremely minor variation of a more common one.

Still, if you need to track it down... we know the game tracks which lines you've seen so it can flag lines that are safe to skip. Is there an easy way to compare a list of flagged lines to a list of all lines and thus create a list of unseen lines?

Thanks for such an informative response. Wasn't sure what the differences were

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Here are all the affinity oriented choices, and the highlighted are my typical options:

• Fight Troy or storm out
• Accept or reject Quinn's offer
• Leave Steve or Talk to him
• Fight Jocks or run off
• Progress things with Jade or stop her
• Party without limits at Strip club or don't
• Smoke Weed with Quinn or don't
• Fight Caleb or Walk away
• Punch Tybalt or Walk away
• Fight Tommy or don't fight
• Use Fake ID or Stay Home
• Go to Strip club or volunteer for Old folks home
• Evict the Alphas from the HOTs party or ignore them
• Study the answers in toilet or flush them (or just walk away)
• Get revenge on the nerds or calm Derek down

I can understand everything, but how did you keep yourself from beating Tybalt? Oh that scene! I can press the repeat button endlessly.


And getting revenge on the nerds with Derek is one of the funniest scenes in the game.

 

[Riggnarock]

well i saw some dik/chick & Minigame discussions and i'd like to weigh in on that.
The minigame will likely be what we did with the mansion, but then plan the halloween event, get an income for that, costs planning (advertising and paying Quinn so the jocks dont find out and stuff like that)

as for the neutral/dik/chick discussion. i see it makes hardly any difference, Jade still walks away angry, unless you break up with her in class after she confided in you, telling her you'll keep it a secret wich was in my eyes the most neutral way and it should calm her down knowing you are in distress and might not be open to anything else. but even then, in the end you still end up saying, fuck fuck fuck, or isnt that about jade? sure sage has a brother, but he is crying his heart out becouse jill dumped him, so he aint much of a threat anymore, or is this about Sage's dad, we hardly spoke to, or does the MC gathered enough wisdom to know that sage's father is a perv looking for young victims and her mom is having an angry discussion with him (saw an preview picture where sage looked angry earlyer in this forum).
any case what worries me the most is indeed, what are we walking into?

as for the other discussion, wich involved the release date, and what yall expect it to be, many seem to think that it might be close to halloween itself, or hoping for it. but earlyer statements made by others gave me the expression that DPC sees no reason whatsoever to make an halloween release, in fact they say he is totaly against it, while i also think it might be him hoping to surprice us by indeed making it an halloween release, the statements so far suggest that he wont.

well these are my thoughts, questions and info about this all. i hope someone can shed some light on the question part.
and i hope i didnt made to many peaps cry becouse of the info part.

Greetings Riggnarock

 

[Room639]

Looking at a full year since the release of Episode 8 (with a mediocre - at best - interlude in between). This game is going to take another 4 years to finish at the least - 8 years of production in total. Why does he always feel the need to add more in each episode? The Halloween party has been hinted at for almost 2 years now. Man is really building his retirement fund at this point. We might see the completion of MILFY City before this game is done

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Looking at a full year since the release of Episode 8 (with a mediocre - at best - interlude in between). This game is going to take another 4 years to finish at the least. Why does he always feel the need to add more in each episode? Man is really building his retirement fund at this point.

Because that's how games with branching storylines work. They grow in size as development progresses. In the case of DPC, the game grows not only in size, but also in quality. Of course, some things in the game are not needed, for example Madame