VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ffive]

MC can end the contest with a very high score, in which case would that mean Derek is a pest who doesn't deserve to be a DIK?

How on Earth did you get this from what i said? It doesn't follow at all.

What i meant wasn't overall score, but the fact some of the tasks, and ways they can be dealt with, are far harder than others. Derek can potentially do things much more drastic than what's expected from the candidates, and that's what he deserves acknowledgment for.

even MC can have sex with a teacher

At the risk of stating the obvious, having sex with a bombshell MILF and having sex with 80+ grandma are nothing alike in term of task difficulty*, even though technically both of them are teachers.

*) kinks aside, obv.

 

[JETracktor]

Alpha&Omega

 

[ffive]

The latter, I'd say. I don't want Quinn to become a housewife anyway, I just want her to quit all that illegal bullcrap. Her fiery personality is already awesome in my book.

I'd say it's Quinn's personality that's her main problem, the drugs are just extra icing on the shit cake. She isn't "fiery", she's a plain bully only able to feel good about herself by putting others down and harassing them. There's nothing awesome about it, it's Dawe-tier personality with similar lack of intelligence to match.

As for the original question... it's far easier to talk someone into moving the party a little bit up/down in the heat of things, than have them alter their whole behavior. Just sayin'

 

[Zirael Q]

It's called Alpha&Omega if I'm not mistaken.

Alpha&Omega you say? Surely you don't mean

 

[Sasanid]

I'd say it's Quinn's personality that's her main problem, the drugs are just extra icing on the shit cake. She isn't "fiery", she's a plain bully only able to feel good about herself by putting others down and harassing them. There's nothing awesome about it, it's Dawe-tier personality with similar lack of intelligence to match.

As for the original question... it's far easier to talk someone into moving the party a little bit up/down in the heat of things, than have them alter their whole behavior. Just sayin'

If you played her road and paid attention to how she was raised and how she gradually changes when she's with the MC, you'd know that's bullshit, it's an act, she learned to survive in a harsh environment where the weak doesn't live long, just the scene in Ep6 when she goes back 'home', her mother doesn't even recognize her anymore, then the pencil traits of her height at ages 5-6-7, imagine that kid growing in that place... doesn't excuse the way she acts (especially in the 1st season), but it sure explains. She just doesn't know how to be anything else, but her walls are melting fast, when with the MC, since Ep6.

I've known some people coming from those background, a couple of them managed to get out and get a life, sorrily most just repeat the same cycle. I come from a very, very dysfunctional family and one of my parent was a monster, had trouble for a long time with relationships, used women then threw them off, you learn to hate people around you because you hate yourself. Well, everyone is salvageable, and I'm sure it'll be the morale of Quinn's story.

I hope for a redemption act, and I'm sure DPC leans towards that, her theme songs are pretty indicative for that, her scenes too. Doesn't mean it will end well, though. It's DPC after all, same could be said for every character in the game.

Now, you can still hate her if you want, that's your business, but comparing her to Dawe, man...

 

[felicemastronzo]

How on Earth did you get this from what i said? It doesn't follow at all.

What i meant wasn't overall score, but the fact some of the tasks, and ways they can be dealt with, are far harder than others. Derek can potentially do things much more drastic than what's expected from the candidates, and that's what he deserves acknowledgment for.


At the risk of stating the obvious, having sex with a bombshell MILF and having sex with 80+ grandma are nothing alike in term of task difficulty*, even though technically both of them are teachers.

*) kinks aside, obv.

having sex is not a extreme difficult task, it becomes so if you are an impediment like Derek
the task is to have sex in the open, not to have sex with Wendy, it becomes an extreme sacrifice because Derek could choose between Wendy and Arieth...

in the same way the task was to have sex with a teacher not with an old woman in dentures, but for Derek divine providence offered just that (it may be easier for MC to have sex with Jade but it involves a much higher risk than the teasing Derek suffers)

but the same goes for the wedgie: if Mc does it he makes a deal with Magnar, if Derek does it he gets beaten up in worldview. was that also an extreme task?

it's Derek's way of doing things is like this, some people get orally drunk and some people get anally drunk

Derek eventually completes two tasks (the one with Wendy always and the one with the pensioner if Mc doesn't decide to risk it all) that MC could still complete, two tasks that in retrospect maybe weren't even necessary to become a DIK. i wouldn't award him the iron cross for military valour

 

[Zirael Q]

If you played her road and paid attention to how she was raised and how she gradually changes when she's with the MC, you'd know that's bullshit, it's an act, she learned to survive in a harsh environment where the weak doesn't live long, just the scene in Ep6 when she goes back 'home', her mother doesn't even recognize her anymore, then the pencil traits of her height at ages 5-6-7, imagine that kid growing in that place... doesn't excuse the way she acts (especially in the 1st season), but it sure explains. She just doesn't know how to be anything else, but her walls are melting fast, when with the MC, since Ep6.

I've known some people coming from those background, a couple of them managed to get out and get a life, sorrily most just repeat the same cycle. I come from a very, very dysfunctional family and one of my parent was a monster, had trouble for a long time with relationships, used women then threw them off, you learn to hate people around you because you hate yourself. Well, everyone is salvageable, and I'm sure it'll be the morale of Quinn's story.

I hope for a redemption act, and I'm sure DPC leans towards that, her theme songs are pretty indicative for that, her scenes too. Doesn't mean it will end well, though. It's DPC after all, same could be said for every character in the game.

Now, you can still hate her if you want, that's your business, but comparing her to Dawe, man...

don't even bother dude

 

[ffive]

If you played her road and paid attention to how she was raised and how she gradually changes when she's with the MC, you'd know that's bullshit, it's an act (...) doesn't excuse the way she acts (especially in the 1st season), but it sure explains. She just doesn't know how to be anything else, but her walls are melting fast, when with the MC, since Ep6.

Like you say yourself, none of this excuses the way she chooses to act. She has tons of examples around her how to act differently, but she'd rather destroy them than try to learn anything from them. And no, some potential redemption arc through the magical power of MC's dick doesn't make it (and Quinn herself) any more appealing or better.

 

[Sasanid]

don't even bother dude

I see what you mean.

 

[ffive]

having sex is not a extreme difficult task

This level of generalization is utterly meanigless. It all depends on circumastances, and the point is the circumstances of these particular acts Derek carried out did make it difficult for him. He still pulled through.

i wouldn't award him the iron cross for military valour

The DIKs evidently don't share your view on this.

 

[felicemastronzo]

This level of generalization is utterly meanigless. It all depends on circumastances, and the point is the circumstances of these particular acts Derek carried out did make it difficult for him. He still pulled through.


The DIKs evidently don't share your view on this.

what would be the circumstances that make it particularly difficult for Derek to have sex? apart from being Derek I mean

when Derek's exploits are shown, the DIKs are more shocked than admired. Tommy, who represents the DIK spirit 100%, misses no opportunity to tease him about his conquests

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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Yeah looks like another BaDIK clone.

Alpha&Omega you say? Surely you don't mean
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Definitely not

 

[Blades1138]

Yeah looks like another BaDIK clone.

By that logic BaDIK is a clone of every other college game that came before it. Let's be serious, school/college setting is actually one of the most popular ones in general, it has nothing to do with this game.

 

[znar25]

OK, so, Sage graduated a two months ago in June. Are the preview scenes of her flashbacks?

 

[JETracktor]

Yeah looks like another BaDIK clone.

I mean when you think about how to name your VN just say it out loud and feel if it's sounds cringe.
That one sounds cringe af.

 

[hakuna-matata]

If you played her road and paid attention to how she was raised and how she gradually changes when she's with the MC, you'd know that's bullshit, it's an act, she learned to survive in a harsh environment where the weak doesn't live long, just the scene in Ep6 when she goes back 'home', her mother doesn't even recognize her anymore, then the pencil traits of her height at ages 5-6-7, imagine that kid growing in that place... doesn't excuse the way she acts (especially in the 1st season), but it sure explains. She just doesn't know how to be anything else, but her walls are melting fast, when with the MC, since Ep6.

Well...... when you put it that way.... I guess that should make up for the bullying, manipulation, violence, pimping and drug dealing. All is forgiven now!

 

[ffive]

what would be the circumstances that make it particularly difficult for Derek to have sex? apart from being Derek I mean

Considering we're talking about specific situations, i think you're acting deliberately obtuse at this point. I'm not interested in playing this game.

when Derek's exploits are shown, the DIKs are more shocked than admired. Tommy, who represents the DIK spirit 100%, misses no opportunity to tease him about his conquests

It's exactly Tommy's behavior that demonstrates they recognize what Derek did was far from ordinary. As is the fact it is used as clear tie-breaker when they make decision who deserves the special reward for overall Hell Week performance.

 

[NebulousShooter]

By that logic BaDIK is a clone of every other college game that came before it. Let's be serious, school/college setting is actually one of the most popular ones in general, it has nothing to do with this game.

Not really, genres and sub genres exist and all art is derivative. But you can easily spot a shameless cash grab like College Kings that even after 3 years has nothing of note going for it, that is not a 1:1 copy of being a DIk, only cheaper, lesser and buggier. Its clear it was made to bank on Being a Dik surge in popularity. And it worked, so I guess kudos on the hustle.

Well...... when you put it that way.... I guess that should make up for the bullying, manipulation, violence, pimping and drug dealing. All is forgiven now!

I CAN FIX HER!

 

[Deleted member 2461802]

Sage is like Real Madrid. The Best.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Considering we're talking about specific situations, i think you're acting deliberately obtuse at this point. I'm not interested in playing this game.

too easy like this

you said I have to consider the circumstances to assess the difficulty of the task, otherwise the discourse remains too general.
OK

what are the specific circumstances that made the 2 tasks, should Derek carry them out, particularly complicated?


answer that and we can close it