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felicemastronzo

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But, not even to help though? When you got feelings for the person, I'd assume you were friends with them before that. So, it's safe to assume that you care for them. I know for some people it would be awkward to keep the friendship towards them.

My point is, would you really not help a person in need? Whomever they are? 'Cause I wouldn't even care who that person is, if I can help, I would.
Like let's say not even to the extent that Tremolo was trying to do with giving his 5K to Maya, but like maybe giving some emotional support, you know? Like saying they can go past through the problem or anything that would help ease their mind.

It's not about helping or staying friends with the person that rejected you or broke up with, but about helping a person in need.
That's what I'm saying.

Thoughts?
you help even strangers, it's called empathy

the point is that friendship between men and women is complicated, friendship with a woman you like is basically a con for at least one of you, friendship with a woman who has rejected you is a punishment

then we are not talking about a real and established friendship relationship that was evolving into love, but into a "superficial" and recent acquaintance

it is truly beyond human endurance to remain closely friends with a girl who rejected you and continue to associate with her assiduously while she "should" make her own life with the one she chose instead.

then in the specific case add that MC CANNOT HELP THEM in any real way, but has almost solely the function of a shoulder to cry on.
 
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But, not even to help though? When you got feelings for the person, I'd assume you were friends with them before that. So, it's safe to assume that you care for them. I know for some people it would be awkward to keep the friendship towards them.

My point is, would you really not help a person in need? Whomever they are? 'Cause I wouldn't even care who that person is, if I can help, I would.
Like let's say not even to the extent that Tremolo was trying to do with giving his 5K to Maya, but like maybe giving some emotional support, you know? Like saying they can go past through the problem or anything that would help ease their mind.

It's not about helping or staying friends with the person that rejected you or broke up with, but about helping a person in need.
That's what I'm saying.

Thoughts?
Getting attached to someone you like/liked and helping someone in need are two different things.

Like if you get rejected, the best course of action is to stay away and let them live their lives. Staying friends with someone after they rejected you is a dumb idea, as that'll usually lead you to being used and you don't really want to be that guy.

Helping someone in need is a virtue, as it is something that's greatly valued in both Christianity and Islam and of course I will help someone in need if I see it, but that doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to help someone. Tremolo giving the 5k to Maya is not that, as that doesn't solve her problem and doesn't lead to anything meaningful. If Maya takes the 5k and then still does nothing to solve her own problem, her character will take a significant hit as a useless leach that constantly depends on others for her problems.
 
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The way I see it there's nothing Maya needs specifically MC's help for, especially now that Sage has such a prominent role with helping Maya, which also includes a shoulder to cry on (let's see how that turns out though). So imo there's not really a reason for a rejected MC to stick around, other than "because story".
 

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The way I see it there's nothing Maya needs specifically MC's help for, especially now that Sage has such a prominent role with helping Maya, which also includes a shoulder to cry on (let's see how that turns out though). So imo there's not really a reason for a rejected MC to stick around, other than "because story".
Look how many people she got involved in her tuition though - MC, Josy, Sage, Stephen and Jade (by proxy), the entire HoT sorority.

The whole damsel in distress shtick got annoying very quickly. :rolleyes:

P.S: love that you brought back Bianca.
 

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Look how many people she got involved in her tuition though - MC, Josy, Sage, Stephen and Jade (by proxy), the entire HoT sorority.

The whole damsel in distress shtick got annoying very quickly. :rolleyes:

P.S: love that you brought back Bianca.
Maya's storyline is pretty bad but that's on DPC. She started pretty chill and easygoing and then it turned into a mess of forced and unnecessary drama that could have been resolved 4 episodes earlier.

At this point I'm not sure if DPC's writing skills don't really match his ambition or he's just milking it, because it's unlikely he'll strike gold twice. If all the filler was replaced with story content, we'd be twice further in the main plot.
 

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Exactly. If they're in a desperate need of help, why wouldn't you? Of course, unless they are a douche just tell them to fuck off.



I see. I guess, I can't speak for everyone then.
'Cause if it's me, I would help the person (if I can) even with whatever history we had.
I would look past that as long as our history is somewhat good.

Especially, if I'm close to them as Tremolo is to Maya and with how heavy Maya's problem is.

But, yes I agree. You don't have to go out of your way to help somebody. If you can and you want to help, you should.
however turn the question upside down: would you call a girl you recently rejected for advice regarding your current partner (because we're not talking about real help)? would that seem appropriate?

because that's actually what happens, then once sha has been approached it's fine for her to help you, but wouldn't you feel like a bit of a jerk for doing so?

p.s. when then the reason for rejection was precisely lack of trust....
 
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Maya's storyline is pretty bad but that's on DPC. She started pretty chill and easygoing and then it turned into a mess of forced and unnecessary drama that could have been resolved 4 episodes earlier.

At this point I'm not sure if DPC's writing skills don't really match his ambition or he's just milking it, because it's unlikely he'll strike gold twice. If all the filler was replaced with story content, we'd be twice further in the main plot.
Depends what you consider filler.

Cause to me, every part is story content.
 

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Depends what you consider filler.

Cause to me, every part is story content.
Dungeons and Goblins sure does contribute a lot to the plot, doesn't it ? Or the way Maya dragged the reveal of something we knew already and we were supposed to be suprised/shocked.
I could keep going, but the main point is that a lot of the story lines have been artificially dragged out and pumped full with buckets of unnecessary drama.
Of course that has positives for DPC, because forced or not, drama generates emotional reactions from players, which keeps the game popular, regardless if their reactions are positive or negative. Just look at the size of this thread. For all it's popularity this is not really the best game on the site. But as long as it doesn't create apathy, DPC would have Jill pregnant by Tybalt and loving it.
 

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as much Heather was more beautiful than usual in her costume as Elena was ugly....
 

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How can Heather be beautiful at all ? :unsure:

She is as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside....
 
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I don't think that's really it. Almost every character is built from a stereotype in this game, it's an easy way to fast track character building, but each character has evolved from these base stereotypes.

Maya's not a bad person, but she has some characteristics that some people find too annoying:
  • She makes everything into a drama.
  • She's often self obsessed to the detriment of her friends (Josy often feels hurt by her).
  • She is a hypocrite (she admitted to it).
  • She's got dodgy skin (ew).
  • She expects others to solve her problems.
  • She's looking for the easy way out.
  • She misled the mc about her relationship situation.
Just being a drama queen is enough to put people off. Personally I don't think her mistaking her sexual identity as a lesbian as a significant reason why people don't care about her.

Jill is a different story. She actually comes across as a lovely person, but she also has flaws:
  • She's stubborn, admittedly so.
  • She decides she knows what's best for people and goes over their heads to resolve things.
  • She's naïve as fuck but still thinks she knows stuff
  • Her naivety sometimes borders on stupidity.
  • She has a horrible looking face at times (but angelic at other times)
  • Her public dumping of the mc (who didn't deserve the public humiliation, unlike Tybalt), has cost her some serious points.
I don't think her being a virgin has particularly made anyone not like her. Although we suspected it for a long time, she only recently confirmed to the mc that it was true, and we've solved that now. :sneaky:

And with Quinn, there are definitely people who dislike her, and not because of the stereotype, but because of exactly who she is:
  • A drug dealer
  • A pimp
  • A cunt
But yeah, she has her fans because she's interesting, and it's fun to break her.

But anyway all these traits make these girls all the more human. Each main girl, and even a lot of the side characters, are more than just clichés, they have their own stories, their own issues, their good points and bad points. It's the fact that they aren't just simple stereotypes that makes them more confronting for some players.

A lot of these AVNs play to stereotypes, but they don't delve deeper. The bad girl says mean shit until she's tastes the mc's cock and suddenly she's putty in his hands, she doesn't continue to make mistakes and fuck her own life up. The girl next door is just sugar and spice and all things that want to make you throw up. You never get an insight into how she feels (other than how she feels about the mc's cock). The MILF teacher exists just to have a relationship with the mc, we don't know or care about her life. And so on. The characters exist to serve the mc. Once you've won them over, they all devolve into an empty shell.

That's one of the best things about BaDIK, each character has their own agency (not excessively though, this is still the mc's story), and they fuck up, just like real people. They don't exist for the mc, they exist with him, and you get to weigh up whether you like them or not. And even if they do fall for the mc, they still continue to exist for themselves too.

My personal preference (since I haven't seen listings for a while):
  1. Quinn: Even if she isn't an official mail LI, she's my favourite. It's not that I actually like her personality, but I enjoy the story with her the most. Watching her falling for the mc, breaking down her barriers and her behaving counter to her typical self, it's definitely enjoyable.
  2. Sage: She seems like the most fun person of all the characters. Early scenes with her were the best, having suffered through a breakup has had her down for a while, and I'm not loving how desperate she became for the mc once the breakup was official, so hopefully episode 9 puts things better with her. But is she a DIK or a Chick kinda girl?
  3. Josy: Unfortunately for Josy, she hasn't really managed to escape the shallow "girl next door" stereotype yet, she's the least developed of all the LIs, but I still find her to be pretty cool. If there ends up being a solo route with her, and she gets more exposure, she could jump up in my rankings. We do know a lot of things about her, but it'd be nice to know more. Oh, and she's very cute. :giggle:
  4. Jill: I don't mind any of Jill's faults really, just didn't like the way she dumped the mc at the restaurant, she could have been more subtle and done it in private. Her being a virgin was handled well enough, her self consciousness was handled OK, and she over came that which is good. Hopefully she becomes a little more active in the sack, but for a first time she did well.
  5. Maya: I honestly find her kinda boring, there are some fun scenes with her, but mostly she's caught up in her own bullshit.
  6. Bella: She's the one LI I don't really give a shit about. I've played her route for completion purposes, but ultimately I find her to be insufferably unpleasant, and if I was the mc I would never have bothered to get to know her. Sure once you get past the Ice Queen exterior she's a caring person, but the age discrepancy between them is too much for me, and the authority dynamic (she usually acts superior to him) is not to my taste.
First, a correction. Maya does not admit that she is a hypocrite, only that she would be a hypocrite if she thought Derek was a radical but did not listen to his point of view.

I agree with you on one point. I don't give a crap about Isabella either.

I don't find Quinn's story interesting either because she won't let go of her criminal shit despite her affection for the MC. She will take the MC down with her. Saying in court that he had the wrong friends doesn't count. The only thing I care about Quinn is what her downfall will be. Fear of a CHICK MC she has already shown in EP8 after all.

Sage is cool. But I think she needs a good friend first, not a boyfriend. When Sage finds out about Quinn's activities, she needs a good friend who will stand by her consistently and not let her escape reality with a quick fuck.

Jill doesn't interest me. She's so unself-reliant that she's boring to me.

Josy and Maya are both "the girls next door". The MC himself is the nice guy next door. Only, unlike Maya, Josy doesn't have much of a problem. But Maya's problem, realistic or not, feels very real to me personally. The nice thing about the three of them is that they all explore the world together. I'm interested in this journey.
 
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Is there some more sexual interaction with Heather?

The jacuzzi scene was pretty hot, and yeah, she is kind of a bitchy character but she is also hot as hell.
 

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