VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

But why? I haven't finished plaing Ep 8, so can you explain to me without spoilers, please.

Part of the community feels that Interlude has seriously delayed Episode 9 without adding anything new to the story. Because Interlude is a small spin-off that tells the backstory of MC's childhood friend Zoey.
The rest is a spoiler for you, so play through Episode 8 to the end.

 

[Laport Deminis]

a Nobel Literature prize (which, b.t.w., ain't that hard since even J.K. Rowland won one...)

Rowling never won a nobel prize in her life.

Like those wokes, feminazis, and other post-modern nazis who make completely crap movies/TV shows

As hard as it is to watch a gay couple in a TV show I think it's not exactly like Auschwitz.

 

[Darkwen]

Oh yeah... That may be the case... But if the Interlude were any good, I think they would complain less... But there are some fanboys that deny that fact and prefer to sustain a scarecrow fallacy... Like those wokes, feminazis, and other post-modern nazis who make completely crap movies/TV shows (be it Marvel, Star Wars, LotR, or whatever), and when they flop, start to yell like a Karen: "you don't like it because you're a misogynist/racist/homophobe/fascist/plain evil/satanist/Sith enthusiast! You have to like it! Man up!"

But the unconditional DPC fanboys better admit that the Interlude is crap as a story. If they think that crap is good, I don't think they ever read any book in life... Not even pulp fiction (the style, not the movie). Of course, it's also crap as porn... It tries to be both and fail miserably both ways... It would even be better storywisely if there were no sex scenes, because it's quite awkward when someone tries to be serious and add some nonsense sex scene just to indulge the fapping audience...

Amazing even in a world with Joe Biden you said something dumber I think the interlude is good that doesn't mean it is just as you thinking its bad doesn't make it bad, it is all taste. No one is saying you have to like it, what is wrong telling someone they are wrong for liking it and acting like a jackass doing it. You bring up Star wars i love star wars i don't like 7-9 but like just about everything else. I know what I think is good and bad I don't need to told if something is bad I can see for myself unlike you who got to have everyone hating it with you how sad. Go eat some chicken sounds like you need some

 

[FerdoPomikovic]

I've installed your OEJ Gallery Unlocker from the 1st post but it didn't unlock all rewards.

It unlock only 5 out of 8 rewards in Mixed.

Any advice or help to unlock them?

 

[Cabin Fever]

Is this a real HUGE reason? Because I managed to read that some people hate Interlude because of the abundant dull drama... but what about the others?

There is more drama in the interlude haters continuously whining about it than the actual interlude.

Now whether that means the interlude is dull drama, or that people are overreacting to the interlude, I'll leave that up to you to decide.

 

[Laport Deminis]

You're right. My bad... I mixed up... I was thinking about Harold Bloom's critique and though she won some award...

Maybe you mean Bob Dylan, a guy who won a controversial nobel prize of literature.

The problem is when they do awfully bad movies and try to throw some identitarian propaganda pedagogically and without context, just to fulfill some quota in the best scenario or, in the worst ones, to virtue signal and to have a trump card against critiques... And they demand you like that crap as if it were some sort of obligation...

Well, that depends on wich kind of criticism is being made. If the criticism is politically then the answer is going to be politically. Wich I find quite natural.

 

[giraffe69]

After playing this game for weeks finally i have every route possible but now i will go for the perfect route at least for me and go with Sage and others that way i might get lucky and fuck both daughter and mother. Come on developer i trust you make my dreams come true be man of culture like me.

 

[lipe2410]

i might get lucky and fuck both daughter and mother

 

[Landro2340]

But the unconditional DPC fanboys better admit that the Interlude is crap as a story. If they think that crap is good, I don't think they ever read any book in life... Not even pulp fiction (the style, not the movie). Of course, it's also crap as porn... It tries to be both and fail miserably both ways... It would even be better storywisely if there were no sex scenes, because it's quite awkward when someone tries to be serious and add some nonsense sex scene just to indulge the fapping audience...

Man I get you don't like the Interlude, but calling others out DPC fanboys for liking it is a far reach. Everybody has their taste, I find the Interlude meh as fuck but I like Zoey and since I didn't even like any of the MGs I'm looking forward to see what she brings to the story. Now, if you want to shit on the interlude for being a crap story, we can call the entire game a crap story, I stopped taking this game serious when Quinn offered me her hoes when I was like 2 days into the college lol, so let's not pretend the game is a master piece of writing at all, its a chill game and it has its ups (Hell's week) and its downs (Rebound guy talk...)

 

[SomboSteel]

People are scared a new challenger will make them question their choice of a waifu.

i think its more fair to say people are scared a new challenger will make the MC question their choice of a waifu, literally right after DPC seemed to give the PLAYER a meaningful choice to make in that regard

 

[Matt2012021]

Wow 9 months since last update even longer if you don't count the last update I know tons don't can't blame them but no reason to beat a dead horse hopefully within a month we get a update going forward hope DPC doesn't have another brain fart an release a update no one wants here hoping

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Annnnnd we are back to the Interlude debacle once again. DPC, please release the next chapter asap.

 

[ffive]

Translating:
- If Zoey's DIK or Chick
- If she calmed Emma or not
- If she posted her nude cluck

That's it... All that matters... You don't even need to watch it... Not necessary to the main plot... Q.E.D.

This is false; yes, you can get abridged version of Interlude consequences through this menu, but it actually doesn't set variables the same way playing through Interlude itself does -- the shortcut sets zoey_dik based on attitude towards Emma, while the actual Interlude sets it based on answers to all little choices you make about Zoey's behavior along the way.

This means playing through Interlude allows to have a more nuanced Zoey, e.g. a CHICK Zoey who didn't take Emma's shit when push came to shove, or vice versa, a DIK Zoey who dealt with Emma in nice manner. You won't get such options taking the shortcut.

 

[Hahn1900]

Oh yeah... Very good indeed... Serious candidate for a Nobel Literature prize (which, b.t.w., ain't that hard since even J.K. Rowland won one...).

dont know if youre are being serious here or you really dont know... first, i assume you are talking about JK Rowling, not rowland... if not... who the fuck is JK Rowland?

If you mean JK rowling (the one that wrote Harry Potter) where comes the mindset from that she won a nobel prize? she didnt. Wasnt even considered for that one...

i just wanted to know about that one

 

[Hahn1900]

Sorry... I already said I mixed it up in another post... I'll even edit it out to avoid more posts like this...

yeah just saw that post... nothing to bother about, we all mix up something sometimes.

 

[ffive]

i think its more fair to say people are scared a new challenger will make the MC question their choice of a waifu, literally right after DPC seemed to give the PLAYER a meaningful choice to make in that regard

I think it is fair to say it's a little of both, personally -- yes, (some) people might be afraid that there's going to be some railroading of the plot as it has happened before. But there's likely also some who won't like the idea they might find themselves (not the MC) second-guessing their picks. As people are rarely willing to admit, even to themselves, they've had a change of heart.

 

[Darkwen]

And who could even imagine that you could beat it, eh!?



No... It's not... Taste is one thing quality is another... But because of those who don't know the latter and think Shakespeare is the same thing as "50 Shades of Grey" -- because it's all "taste" -- we're in the cultural state we're in...

What proves my point is you can't give any grounds and reasons to demonstrate the Interlude is good bar "it's my taste and tastes are like assholes! Everyone has one!"

I say the Interlude is bad because it's meaningless, it's not information necessary to the main plot, it changes the POV in the middle of things without no excuse except "it's my vision!" (ok, visionary...); for one to believe Zoey still liked the MC's and at the same time decided to move to SF because she was sad and saw an add on the Internet, one needs a crane for the suspension of belief. Thus the plot has no coherence, fails to grab the attention of everyone who's not interested in those slice-of-life craps. And more... Even if the Interlude's plot were any good per se, it would be bad because of it's totally meaningless to the main plot -- and proves this is the fact you can skip it in almost in its entirety, jumping directly to the part when you (i.e., Zoey) flushes her former friends phone; and you do this to set the only three variables that matter in the Interlude:

    menu:
        "Do you want to play the Interlude?"
        "Play the Interlude" if True:
            jump startInterlude
        "Skip to episode 9" if True:
            scene epi_ems44 with dissolve
            menu:
                "Did Zoey calm Emma down or take her phone?"
                "Calmed her down" if True:
                    $ emma_calm = True
                    $ emma_cluck = False
                    $ zoey_dik = False
                "Took her phone" if True:
                    $ emma_calm = False
                    $ emma_cluck = True
                    $ zoey_dik = True

Translating:
- If Zoey's DIK or Chick
- If she calmed Emma or not
- If she posted her nude cluck

That's it... All that matters... You don't even need to watch it... Not necessary to the main plot... Q.E.D.

Your talking in circles and doing a very bad job of it. BTW I was looking for your point but there isn't one. The Interlude is to me good because because it gives me a reason to like Zoey and explains the MC relationship with her from both points of view more so from Zoey. You acting as if it is an absolute that because you think the interlude is bad that it is bad that is bullshit. This is art so being good or bad is relative because it depends on taste.

 

[Landro2340]

His point is THE INTERLUDE IS BAD BECAUSE I SAY SO, and went as far to post the interlude's code as if that gave it more merit. He just needs some chill pills.

 

[Hahn1900]

I think it is fair to say it's a little of both, personally -- yes, (some) people might be afraid that there's going to be some railroading of the plot as it has happened before. But there's likely also some who won't like the idea they might find themselves (not the MC) second-guessing their picks. As people are rarely willing to admit, even to themselves, they've had a change of heart.

My problem with Zoey is... well, what for? We dont need her. There are already so many girls in this game, for every taste and attitude... To bring her back with this huge amount of focus will lead to one thing... less time for the others.

You know... sometimes, less is more. The game is already PACKED with a shitload of things going on and so many girls that i have a hardtime remembering the names of them.

In the end i think DPC will sacrifice a lot of time and focus on Zoey and others will come a little shorter than they would without Zoey. and thats the main reason iam a little upset about her... of course i wouldnt be upset if i would like her. But i dont. So now i got a "new" girl in the game, which will get a LOT of focus, even if we decide that we dont want to get intimtate with her...

And we already have something like that with Maya and Josy. Which is already a weak-point in the game, a huge one... if we dont care about Maya, we are stuck with her anyways... the only difference is that we can bang her here and there.

Same goes for Zoey i bet... doesnt matter if we want to get in her panties again, she will have a big part during the game anyways, otherwise there is no point in bringing her back with this huge setup and a whole interlude episode. and i just want more time with the already established girls...

 

[ffive]

My problem with Zoey is... well, what for? We dont need her. There are already so many girls in this game, for every taste and attitude...

Evidently not, since Zoey represents not just one but two "types" of girl which weren't present in the game -- that is, former girlfriend *and* childhood friend. And at the very least the latter is a pretty popular archetype in VNs.

edit: also, we have AchedCroissant as a walking example that there is players for whom Zoey appeals more than other girls. So "we don't need her" would be far more accurate and honest if you said "i don't need her", speaking just for yourself rather than everyone.