VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[shazba]

I'll add some of my observations. Quinn likes MC, even if he's Chick/Neutral, not in a romantic way, but her attitude is definitely friendly. In case if you are Neutral/Chick she is not interested in MC for sex or possible relationships, but some describe her as an MC's antagonist , which is completely wrong. Yes, they do not agree on everything, Tremolo doesn't like her attacks on Maya, but still they find a common language and work together on a party.
They easily start small talk and even when she behaves like this:
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This is a friendly tease, but not a hostile attitude. Her body language and emotions suggest that she is friendly with Tremolo. Tremolo's calm reaction speaks volumes. It's typical Quinn, teasing someone she likes is her defense mechanism. She doesn't want to look like the "fragile" she is deep inside.

Next, a moment of heart-to-heart talk with Tommy on the roof. Quinn is frightened when Tommy mentions the gun threat.
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She doesn't want anyone to get hurt, this reaction comes when Tommy mentions that Tremolo was under threat. That's not how you react to people you don't care about. I also think this is the first moment that Quinn realized in her heart that a life of crime was not for her. She doesn't want people to get hurt because of it. People who believe in another villainous plan of Quinn with psychological manipulation can pass by. Someone may still see her as the main villain, but this is flat earth's level nonsense.

And the last moment, this one. A person who can't stand you won't hug you like that. Screenshot taken at Neutral Affinity, not Quinn route of course.
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A person hostile to you would keep his distance. Quinn usually does this, for example, at first she doesn't like Lily and avoids her in Ep.6-7, after the situation with Maya she generally resists accepting her in sorority and does everything for Maya doesn't change her mind. (Her hostility towards Maya and why she's bullied her is still a mystery to me).
My conclusion is that Quinn is not currently the MC's antagonist and is in any case positive about him at the time of Episodes 8-9.


I think I would burn with shame if my girlfriend came to the party in such a costume, it would be terribly embarrassing.

Drag queen Leon is at least funny, Tommy's constant teasing and reaction to Leon's victory... I almost burst into tears from laughter. I have the same trollface as Quinn in the screenshot above.

Really? You didn't like any of the costumes? As for me, many were very cool, I even made a list, well, this is subjective:
https://f95zone.to/threads/being-a-dik-v0-9-1-dr-pinkcake.25332/post-9666622

Agreed. I'm a big softy Jill fan and I've found Quinn to be detestable through the first 8 chapters with how awfully she's treated people. But that conversation with Tommy made her gain quite a few points with me. She showed genuine concern for people and she actually came around to apologizing to Tommy (after a rare bout of Wisdom from Tommy of all people). It's a step in the right direction, and I'm getting redemption arc vibes from her.

Seasons 1 & 2, I'd definitely consider her an antagonist. Nearly all of the issues challenging the HOTs, DIKs and even Preps and Alphas to some degree can all be traced back to her. And she's got some serious shit to account for in regards trying to turn the HOTs into a prostitution ring, coercing pledges into participating in it, and keeping the money to herself. So she's not out of the "piece of shit" category. She's still pretty fucking deep in it.. but she might still be able to fix things.

Quinn likes messing with people, and the mc is easy to mess with, Mel & Sarah also note this.

But if you go back to the CUMPetition, if the mc let’s it progress to them having sex, and comments that she’s gonna have to take it deeper if she wants him to get off, her response is something like, “I knew I liked you for a reason”. So she’s already casually liked the mc from the get go.

Regarding Quinn’s response to the gun threat, I don’t think that shows too much. It’s a very serious thing to be threatened with a gun, nothing on that level has happened to the characters as far as we know. If I told some people at work, “Hey my friend had some dude threaten him with a gun yesterday.” Everyone would be like, “Holy shit! Is he alright!?”

As far as Tommy and Quinn reconciling, when one of your friends is threatened with a gun, it helps put what matters into perspective. They’ve been good friends for at least a year, their split was more to do with pride than anything else, but what happened with Vinny in the library, that was really serious.

As far as Quinn not wanting the mc to get hurt, straight after the mc tells her he faced off with Vinny, she asks him to accompany her to her next cash drop (pretty sure that’s what she’s getting at, since she asked how good he is at fighting and she’s worried about getting mugged again). If she really cared for his well being, the last thing she’d do is start to involve him in her shady shit.

And back to the costumes. For me, Halloween costumes should be ghosts, goblins, vampires, undead, all that kinda shit. I never get it that Americans (and maybe other cultures) dress up as firemen, princesses, astronaughts etc. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Tara’s last minute ghost sheet was more appropriate than like 80% of the costumes there.

I didn’t hate the costumes, but none of them really appealed to me. And Quinn’s kinda looked like more effort than I’d expect her to bother with.

 

[Klepon]

You know, one can be concerned about someone doing stupid shit like pulling a gun on someone without having good relations with whoever was the victim of it. Her expression might be simply "holy shit, what a mess, did anything bad actually happened". At least, as a non-Quinn route guy I didn't read it as concern for MC beyond regular human reaction for situation like that.

Yeah, that's a normal reaction for a normal person.
Because, everybody have empathy, no matter if they come from the slums.
Btw, thankfully, the people worried about the MC after being pointed at a gun by Vinny.
doesn't know the hidden power that the MC possesses.

 

[Just Jericho]

Quinn likes messing with people, and the mc is easy to mess with, Mel & Sarah also note this.

But if you go back to the CUMPetition, if the mc let’s it progress to them having sex, and comments that she’s gonna have to take it deeper if she wants him to get off, her response is something like, “I knew I liked you for a reason”. So she’s already casually liked the mc from the get go.

Regarding Quinn’s response to the gun threat, I don’t think that shows too much. It’s a very serious thing to be threatened with a gun, nothing on that level has happened to the characters as far as we know. If I told some people at work, “Hey my friend had some dude threaten him with a gun yesterday.” Everyone would be like, “Holy shit! Is he alright!?”

As far as Tommy and Quinn reconciling, when one of your friends is threatened with a gun, it helps put what matters into perspective. They’ve been good friends for at least a year, their split was more to do with pride than anything else, but what happened with Vinny in the library, that was really serious.

As far as Quinn not wanting the mc to get hurt, straight after the mc tells her he faced off with Vinny, she asks him to accompany her to her next cash drop (pretty sure that’s what she’s getting at, since she asked how good he is at fighting and she’s worried about getting mugged again). If she really cared for his well being, the last thing she’d do is start to involve him in her shady shit.

And back to the costumes. For me, Halloween costumes should be ghosts, goblins, vampires, undead, all that kinda shit. I never get it that Americans (and maybe other cultures) dress up as firemen, princesses, astronaughts etc. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Tara’s last minute ghost sheet was more appropriate than like 80% of the costumes there.

I didn’t hate the costumes, but none of them really appealed to me. And Quinn’s kinda looked like more effort than I’d expect her to bother with.

Alright you've convinced me. Quinn is back to being an irredeemable cunt.

Though, I'm not sure your co-worker hypothetical works since presumably your co-workers aren't known for coercing your other co-workers into prostitution... ...are they?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

8% CPU usage, 35% RAM usage, 3% GPU usage. My computer is more than capable of running VN's, so I'm not sure what's causing this. Maybe the installation is corrupted or something. It's super weird. I'm running any other game and VN without any issues at all. Oh well.

It's really weird. I had similar symptoms only on the android version, because the phone was "choking" and could barely cope with the game.

Agreed. I'm a big softy Jill fan and I've found Quinn to be detestable through the first 8 chapters with how awfully she's treated people. But that conversation with Tommy made her gain quite a few points with me. She showed genuine concern for people and she actually came around to apologizing to Tommy (after a rare bout of Wisdom from Tommy of all people). It's a step in the right direction, and I'm getting redemption arc vibes from her.

Seasons 1 & 2, I'd definitely consider her an antagonist. Nearly all of the issues challenging the HOTs, DIKs and even Preps and Alphas to some degree can all be traced back to her. And she's got some serious shit to account for in regards trying to turn the HOTs into a prostitution ring, coercing pledges into participating in it, and keeping the money to herself. So she's not out of the "piece of shit" category. She's still pretty fucking deep in it.. but she might still be able to fix things.

It seems to me that this is such a plot trick that I heard about - a fake antagonist. A conditionally "evil" character is introduced, which then reveals that he is not the "main evil" at all, but a contradictory and complex character, and the "main evil" will actually be presented later and it is much worse.
If we remember Quinn's sins, they are pretty minor. A prostitution ring with 4 girls in it? (Riona, Camila, Mel and Sara). Petty drug dealing? Mona's blackmail? Trolling other characters? These are small things, compared to Vinny, who is a complete bastard. Or professor Burke, local Harvey Wahnstein.
And I would not say that Quinn is forcing girls into prostitution. When I saw Camila's recruitment, it's more like soft persuasion, Quinn knows exactly who to recruit - promiscuous girls with low willpower and low moral standards. Of the six new girls, only two received a "best deal".

 

[Deleted member 5515203]

I didn’t hate the costumes, but none of them really appealed to me. And Quinn’s kinda looked like more effort than I’d expect her to bother with.

Why not she’s all about that, with her little skull mask, and the story she tells the MC during the party talk with Sage. She dressed up as a spider last year with legs and the whole shebang. Also she has a heavy punk-alt heavy style to her, so metal, death, dark, and spooky stuff is right up her alley.

 

[Night Hacker]

Heya!

So, uhm, I finally got around to play Ep. 9 and pretty much missed out on all the pages in this thread since release, so I don't know if this has been mentioned before, if it's a known issue, or something entirely on my end.

Anyway, I was wondering if others have been getting massive input lag playing the new episode? By that I mean huge delays during the freeroam event while hovering the cursor over interactive objects like doors, characters etc. I didn't have any issue with season 1,2 and the interlude, but for some reason the new episode is giving me trouble. It takes somewhere around 5-10secs for the objects I hover my cursor over to actually get highlighted, and even when clicking on things it takes several seconds before something happens, making it a real pain to navigate through the freeroam. It's hard to explain, but I guess "delay" is the best explanation I can come up with.

I'm currently in the basement doing the puzzle thingie, and the flashlight is completely bugging out. I even deactivated the "special effects" option in the menu, so now instead of a flashlight, the basement is fully lit...uhm...I'm also kinda stuck at the cage part, but that might just be me not getting what the fuck I'm supposed to do there. lol

Anyway, everything else besides the issues mentioned works perfectly fine. Animations, dialogue, minigames in MC's phone, rooster etc. All working perfectly fine. Maybe someone knows whats causing it and can help me out?

Cheers

Are you running the 32bit or the 64bit version of the game? I was playing a VN the other day (something else) which only had one executable, but I noticed a lot of lag in it while playing it, so I hit CTRL+SHIFT+ESC and checked and noticed that the executable was a 32bit program. The game also used 1280x720 images which would have to be scaled up to fit on my screen. I think a combination of these things causes it to lag my system. My computer is not slow either.

Are you running a compressed version of the game? That could also play a role in this. Might need to download the full normal version and run the 64bit version of the executable.

The only other thing I can think of is if your video card has a low amount of video RAM and you also have other programs running, like a browser, maybe with multiple tabs etc... that may cause problems... or a combination of the above. Check background tasks, see if you can shut any of them down. I sometimes exit STEAM and a GOG program that run on startup and like to hang around in the background. Don't need them running constantly if I am not using them, so I will sometimes shut them down. Gotta watch for some software that loves to run on startup and hang out in the background, taking up resources.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Quinn likes messing with people, and the mc is easy to mess with, Mel & Sarah also note this.

But if you go back to the CUMPetition, if the mc let’s it progress to them having sex, and comments that she’s gonna have to take it deeper if she wants him to get off, her response is something like, “I knew I liked you for a reason”. So she’s already casually liked the mc from the get go.

Regarding Quinn’s response to the gun threat, I don’t think that shows too much. It’s a very serious thing to be threatened with a gun, nothing on that level has happened to the characters as far as we know. If I told some people at work, “Hey my friend had some dude threaten him with a gun yesterday.” Everyone would be like, “Holy shit! Is he alright!?”

As far as Tommy and Quinn reconciling, when one of your friends is threatened with a gun, it helps put what matters into perspective. They’ve been good friends for at least a year, their split was more to do with pride than anything else, but what happened with Vinny in the library, that was really serious.

Yes, but still, her reaction to the gun situation breaks the theory that "Quinn has no heart and doesn't care about people." She has a concept of empathy, for her people are not faceless pieces on a chessboard.
Further agrees that such a stressful shock situation allows for a bit of sobering up as a result of Tommy and Quinn burying the hatchet. This scene was one of the best in Episode 9 and the music is perfect.
And one more moment in this scene. Quinn's flashback with her father. I think it was shown not in vain, this scene draws a conclusion about the source of her psychological problems. Of course, the father loved his daughter and I think he never beat her, but what kind of uparenting is this? "Do not trust anyone at all except dad, and everyone else at arm's length." Of course, over the years of such propaganda, life in bad conditions, sociopathy and emotional closeness develop.

As far as Quinn not wanting the mc to get hurt, straight after the mc tells her he faced off with Vinny, she asks him to accompany her to her next cash drop (pretty sure that’s what she’s getting at, since she asked how good he is at fighting and she’s worried about getting mugged again). If she really cared for his well being, the last thing she’d do is start to involve him in her shady shit.

Yeah, that's reasonable, I need to think about why she's dragging him into this... Maybe he thinks he's tough enough to deal with small fry like that assailant from Ep.6, but it's still not safe. And again a mystery.

And back to the costumes. For me, Halloween costumes should be ghosts, goblins, vampires, undead, all that kinda shit. I never get it that Americans (and maybe other cultures) dress up as firemen, princesses, astronaughts etc. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Tara’s last minute ghost sheet was more appropriate than like 80% of the costumes there.

I didn’t hate the costumes, but none of them really appealed to me. And Quinn’s kinda looked like more effort than I’d expect her to bother with.

I understand. For me, this whole Halloween theme looks cool and interesting, I'm from that part of the world where Halloween is not popular. As for Tara, I think the best costume is the one she was born in.

 

[DanMotta]

Good ranking, for me Elena´s costume was one of the best.

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I voted for her and she didn't win, what a shame lol.

 

[Deleted member 4392187]

Me: at the moment it's good game, it really deserves be played.
Me after this scene: nah 10 of 10, best game ever

 

[shazba]

Yes, but still, her reaction to the gun situation breaks the theory that "Quinn has no heart and doesn't care about people." She has a concept of empathy, for her people are not faceless pieces on a chessboard.
Further agrees that such a stressful shock situation allows for a bit of sobering up as a result of Tommy and Quinn burying the hatchet. This scene was one of the best in Episode 9 and the music is perfect.
And one more moment in this scene. Quinn's flashback with her father. I think it was shown not in vain, this scene draws a conclusion about the source of her psychological problems. Of course, the father loved his daughter and I think he never beat her, but what kind of uparenting is this? "Do not trust anyone at all except dad, and everyone else at arm's length." Of course, over the years of such propaganda, life in bad conditions, sociopathy and emotional closeness develop.


Yeah, that's reasonable, I need to think about why she's dragging him into this... Maybe he thinks he's tough enough to deal with small fry like that assailant from Ep.6, but it's still not safe. And again a mystery.


I understand. For me, this whole Halloween theme looks cool and interesting, I'm from that part of the world where Halloween is not popular. As for Tara, I think the best costume is the one she was born in.

It’s one thing to toy with people for your own pleasure… ok, that does sound extremely fucking psychotic… but anyway, tasering the mc in the neck actually could actually have been fatal, but I’m gonna say it probably wasn’t meant to be interpreted as such. Tasering people in the movies, especially anything like a sex comedy, is always done for laughs. But that’s probably the worst thing Quinn has done.

Everything else Quinn has done (like tossing the mc out of the HOTs naked, having covert sex with him in the CUMPetition) has definitely shown she’s wild.

But a gun can mean instant death. Nothing in the game has come close to that. Unless you are a true psychopath, that shit happening to a friend would concern you.

For all Tommy’s asshole behaviour in the past, the way he handled that situation, and helped the mc not have a fucking heart attack, was very cool. Of course his motive for calming the mc down and playing the gun off as a prop was to save his own skin (not wanting police involved etc.), but he still handled the situation really well.

Quinn hasn’t said or done anything particularly important based on that situation other than be a bit concerned that it happened. But her concern was unique to this situation, she was the only one worried that a stoned mc might fall off the roof of the DIKs, so much so that she stayed with him through his high, even if they didn’t have sex.

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

As far as Quinn not wanting the mc to get hurt, straight after the mc tells her he faced off with Vinny, she asks him to accompany her to her next cash drop (pretty sure that’s what she’s getting at, since she asked how good he is at fighting and she’s worried about getting mugged again). If she really cared for his well being, the last thing she’d do is start to involve him in her shady shit.

we dont know that
maybe thats what DPC wants for us to think

 

[TomUK]

Good ranking, for me Elena´s costume was one of the best.

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Would have been better if she had taken a leaf out of Derek's book.

 

[TomUK]

Biggest arsehole in the game as far as I am concerned is Tommy.

 

[MrBubu]

So during the party planning flashback my fuckface is hanging out with Elena, i thought it was linear but i guess its not since i found these.

Anyone knows the reason behind this?

It depends if you accepted Elena's special shot at the dorm party, if you did you are with her, if not you are alone.

 

[DarkKiller]

Quinn likes messing with people, and the mc is easy to mess with, Mel & Sarah also note this.

But if you go back to the CUMPetition, if the mc let’s it progress to them having sex, and comments that she’s gonna have to take it deeper if she wants him to get off, her response is something like, “I knew I liked you for a reason”. So she’s already casually liked the mc from the get go.

Regarding Quinn’s response to the gun threat, I don’t think that shows too much. It’s a very serious thing to be threatened with a gun, nothing on that level has happened to the characters as far as we know. If I told some people at work, “Hey my friend had some dude threaten him with a gun yesterday.” Everyone would be like, “Holy shit! Is he alright!?”

As far as Tommy and Quinn reconciling, when one of your friends is threatened with a gun, it helps put what matters into perspective. They’ve been good friends for at least a year, their split was more to do with pride than anything else, but what happened with Vinny in the library, that was really serious.

As far as Quinn not wanting the mc to get hurt, straight after the mc tells her he faced off with Vinny, she asks him to accompany her to her next cash drop (pretty sure that’s what she’s getting at, since she asked how good he is at fighting and she’s worried about getting mugged again). If she really cared for his well being, the last thing she’d do is start to involve him in her shady shit.

And back to the costumes. For me, Halloween costumes should be ghosts, goblins, vampires, undead, all that kinda shit. I never get it that Americans (and maybe other cultures) dress up as firemen, princesses, astronaughts etc. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Tara’s last minute ghost sheet was more appropriate than like 80% of the costumes there.

I didn’t hate the costumes, but none of them really appealed to me. And Quinn’s kinda looked like more effort than I’d expect her to bother with.

Until now I still haven't changed my mind the reason Quinn isn't officially a LI but is constantly lumped with them is that DPC is fucking with his fans and baiting them into dating her to then just pull the rug out right from under them.
When shit hits the fan, and we know it will, she won't be able to plead innocence, even Riona is getting pissed with her shenanigans, unless she has some kind of get out of jail free card over Burke or the drug lord she deals with, when people find out, Mona, Riona and all the other girls will talk, and then she's going down with the whole crime ring.

 

[MrBubu]

Found this little hidden line in EP9 a while back. It's not much but it appears to be unobtainable because in the current version of the game, you're forced to do the Vinny event LAST in the freeroam. But I thought I'd share it just in case other people like hunting for silly buried moments like this (such as the buried Josy cheek kiss in EP1).

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You can do the Vinny encounter ("Check your room" task) straight after the costume competition and do the "Check downstairs bathroom" after.

Only when you are on Josy&Maya branch that you need to find them before you can check your room, but I still believe you can do the downstairs bathroom after.

 

[leo_grouch]

What options are necessary for having zoe crashing in the MC's room

 

[TomUK]

What options are necessary for having zoe crashing in the MC's room

None as she catches the train home.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

It’s one thing to toy with people for your own pleasure… ok, that does sound extremely fucking psychotic… but anyway, tasering the mc in the neck actually could actually have been fatal, but I’m gonna say it probably wasn’t meant to be interpreted as such. Tasering people in the movies, especially anything like a sex comedy, is always done for laughs. But that’s probably the worst thing Quinn has done.

Everything else Quinn has done (like tossing the mc out of the HOTs naked, having covert sex with him in the CUMPetition) has definitely shown she’s wild.

But a gun can mean instant death. Nothing in the game has come close to that. Unless you are a true psychopath, that shit happening to a friend would concern you.

For all Tommy’s asshole behaviour in the past, the way he handled that situation, and helped the mc not have a fucking heart attack, was very cool. Of course his motive for calming the mc down and playing the gun off as a prop was to save his own skin (not wanting police involved etc.), but he still handled the situation really well.

Quinn hasn’t said or done anything particularly important based on that situation other than be a bit concerned that it happened. But her concern was unique to this situation, she was the only one worried that a stoned mc might fall off the roof of the DIKs, so much so that she stayed with him through his high, even if they didn’t have sex.

I've heard about taser deaths, which seem to be extremely unlikely. I have often seen the use of a taser by the police, this thing is ineffective ... the suspects do not lose consciousness and even continue to walk as if nothing had happened. But in the game yes, it can be ignored.

When I saw that fucking gun, I got scared myself. I immediately remembered WHOSE GAME IS THIS and caught Acting Lessons flashbacks. Feeling like something terrible is about to happen.
Tommy got a few more respect points from me. For this guy, I also occasionally act as a lawyer here, my passion for polarizing characters works. Despite his explosive nature, he is not such a bad guy. But his drug addiction is a serious problem.

It looks so sweet, Quinn's hidden concern for MC. And how she tries to hide it under the mask of rudeness and laughing it off: "Shut up. I just don't want tomorrow to write in the headlines: the campus pervert is dead, the reason is the fall from the roof"
What a line!
There was another such moment, she writes to you after sex in Episode 6: "I expected that you would write or call me after. Guys usually do this"
Damn, how I want her redemption line.

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

when people find out, Mona, Riona and all the other girls will talk, and then she's going down with the whole crime ring.

you guys talk like quinn has some speedboat that brings tons of drugs from colombia or she makes human taffic or something
the drugs are mostly weed and small doses, she even sell fake drugs to have more profit like the sugar pills
the girls are not obliged by any means to enter the restaurant (at least that we saw)
Mona, Riona, etc cant talk much because they do those things because they want, the money is easy and good and in riona case, she smokes a lot
in real life, on most of the countries, quinn probably doesnt even would go to jail, especially if she doesnt has a record