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As you'll see momentarily, I see more nuance in Quinn's actions than you do; she may have the potential to change, she just hasn't shown any sign of actually changing thus far. Nonetheless I am compelled to support you purely on the basis of the Fraggle Rock reference!
Fair enough.Sometimes I wonder if the people who are against Quinn have even seen this shit, I mean I've literally never had a discussion with someone who dislikes Quinn about the reason she doesn't like kissing, or the reason she doesn't stay over at other people's rooms, or anything that is really personal or interesting to her character. What does someone who dislikes Quinn think about those facets of her character? How do they affect or reflect on her motivations? I don't know. All I keep hearing about is how Quinn is a big evil pimp gurl who slap Riona for no reason I guess, and if you even try to figure out why with the information you have then people get angry
Personally, I think Quinn craves feeling in control of the situation at all times. She pays lip service to people in positions of nominal authority, but she won't let them interrupt her agenda and she clearly considers her own judgement superior. Even the people Quinn seems to like (such as Riona, Tommy, or the right sort of MC) are treated more like children than peers. Basically, she's an extreme narcissist.
To me, Quinn's reluctance to kiss is one of the less interesting manifestations of this phenomenon. It's a bit cliche to say love is a weakness, but I think that's how Quinn sees it: a boyfriend is someone who might cause her to do something against her own interest, whereas a casual boy toy is harmless (or even a symbol of her prowess). So Quinn always makes it clear that anyone she's fooling around with is the latter.
Quinn's stubborn insistence on her own rectitude is the more interesting aspect of her character, IMHO. Consider the scene where Tommy visits her at the end of Episode 7. He wants her to apologize for ditching the DIKs at the Hell Week party and she refuses. Why? It would mollify him so he'd be far easier to control going forward, and we know Quinn has no trouble lying to people's face. So why stonewall Tommy like that?
The simple answer is that she thinks admitting to a mistake would be a sign of weakness so she must insist she was right - even to the point of absurdity. Perhaps she's even begun to believe the hype herself and genuinely thinks she's infallible. Either way, apologizing would undermine her reputation and thus cannot happen.
But I think there's more to it than that; I think Quinn is terrified of what it would mean NOT to be in control of the situation. Back in Episode 2 Josy explained she'd tied up so much of her hopes and dreams into getting into B&R that is was devastating when it looked like she was rejected. I think something similar has happened with Quinn.
I think the way a young Quinn dealt with growing up in a drug den was promising herself that she wouldn't be one of the "losers." She wouldn't be one of the sheep who live boring lives, or one the 'pigs' enforcing that life. She wouldn't be one of the burnouts drugging themselves into oblivion. She wouldn't be one of the expendable small fry that come and go without anyone noticing. Quinn told herself she was going to be to be one of the movers and shakers, a real criminal mastermind.
That's why she reacted so badly when Riona suggested scaling back. That's why she shows no interest in a CHICK MC. And that's why she can't just admit she shouldn't have ditched the DIKs. The problem isn't admitting she made a mistake, it's admitting that her entire criminal empire is a bust and she has no idea how to fix it. Quinn is just psychologically incapable of handling that truth at the moment.
That's how I see it, anyway. Your mileage clearly varies.
I disagree. Why can't Bella and the MC's date serve double duty? Just because it lets DPC combine assets with Jill's story doesn't automatically mean it's a bad idea. It's not like the Hangout with Bella in Episode 7 was ruined just because it grew out of the doubles tennis match with Jill. What Bella and the MC discuss while watching Jill, and what they do after Jill leaves, is what matters.
In the end, the question is whether the opportunity advances the relationship between Bella and the MC. If it can do so then it will serve its purpose. If it can do that while ALSO advancing the MC's relationship with Jill, so much the better. Obviously this will come down to execution, but when isn't that the case?
I also disagree that Bella's storyline is dependent on Jill's. Bella clearly has her own storyline relating to her mysterious marriage. Jill is probably involved in that storyline at some level, but I doubt she will be a central figure in it. Now I agree it would be great to finally get some answers on that mystery, but I very much doubt we'd get those during a date whether or not Jill's blackmail plot is involved.
I think that's referring to the scene in Quinn's room if the MC stays with Sage in Episode 4.
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You're presuming that freeing Maya from Patrick's ultimatum would wrap up Maya's family story. The way Maya broke down at the sight of Josy's reconciliation with Pete in Episode 5 suggests otherwise. Maya must be free to live her own life , but that's just the first step. Her family is still important to her and that won't be as easily solved.
That's my guess, anyway. BaDIK is clearly committed to long-term story development. It sucks when we have to wait 7 months between updates and there's no guarantee it will eventually stick the landing. But to paraphrase Maya, it would be pretty fucking awesome if it does work out.
