VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Holy Bacchus]

Is there new published patron custom renders, btw love the game and Bella

No. The custom renders are never posted here, namely because they're only for patrons on the $75 and above tiers, so a) there probably isn't anyone on that tier on these forums, and b) even there was someone here, there probably aren't many of them on that tier and DPC can possibly figure out which patron posted them if they did so they're not going to risk it.

The only way to get the custom renders yourself would be to pay $75, download all of them from the Patreon page, then either cancel your subscription or take it down to a lower tier.

 

[Dashxp4k]

No. The custom renders are never posted here, namely because they're only for patrons on the $75 and above tiers, so a) there probably isn't anyone on that tier on these forums, and b) even there was someone here, there probably aren't many of them on that tier and DPC can possibly figure out which patron posted them if they did so they're not going to risk it.

The only way to get the custom renders yourself would be to pay $75, download all of them from the Patreon page, then either cancel your subscription or take it down to a lower tier.

Or Download all the custom renders. wait the game that's is finish then post it here or released on Reddit.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Or Download all the custom renders. wait the game that's is finish then post it here

The thing about these custom renders for that high tier is that you dont actually know what you're getting and they aren't always sexual in nature. There's some custom renders somewhere in the thread that feature Sage and Jill depicted as a demon and angel respectively, and one with (I think) Maya and Jill cosplaying as Overwatch characters. So it's not always certain character combinations doing sexual things, somethimes it's just total fantasy stuff.

 

[Derek9110]

My main problem with the photo is why obscure the name? If it’s Jill’s sister which seems likely, the photo saying ‘Val and Jill’ or whatever her name is wouldn’t have revealed anything. The only reason to obscure the name is if there is a reveal. You could argue the reveal is Jill is a Royce. But then the Bella photo is first name only why would Jill write their shared family name on a photo? Perhaps the caption could be ‘sis and me’. But again why hide this? What I’m getting at is there is a story reason for the anonymity of the photo.

It's entirely possible that someone else besides Jill made those photos, and as such could have had any number of reasons to put their last name on it. It's also entirely possible that's it's not a reveal at all and DPC had to put the MC's thumb somewhere and it made the most sense to obscure the writing on that photo. I'm not saying it's impossible he put that much thought into a random photo most players won't pay attention to, just that it's not guaranteed that who Jill's family is means anything at all. I think stuff like who leaked the Cathy photo, the reason for Bella's husband leaving and MC's mom are things DPC has put a decent amount of effort into building up reveals to, but Jill's sister or really any family member is unlikely to move the needle all that much (imo). We know she comes from a rich family, who that rich family ends up being might not even be Jill's drama point.

 

[mindern]

It's entirely possible that someone else besides Jill made those photos, and as such could have had any number of reasons to put their last name on it. It's also entirely possible that's it's not a reveal at all and DPC had to put the MC's thumb somewhere and it made the most sense to obscure the writing on that photo. I'm not saying it's impossible he put that much thought into a random photo most players won't pay attention to, just that it's not guaranteed that who Jill's family is means anything at all. I think stuff like who leaked the Cathy photo, the reason for Bella's husband leaving and MC's mom are things DPC has put a decent amount of effort into building up reveals to, but Jill's sister or really any family member is unlikely to move the needle all that much (imo). We know she comes from a rich family, who that rich family ends up being might not even be Jill's drama point.

He had to sit and get models for, pose and then render each of those photos. There's no way he didn't put some thought into them. These aren't random assets he's got and thrown into a scene like the newspapers and such to flesh out the world. These are specific, custom, renders with specific models for a younger Jill, Bella and what appears to be her sister.

Chekhov's gun in most media is one thing, but in a game where you have to hand craft every inch of every scene it becomes exceptionally relevant.

 

[Deleted member 1140805]

We need a new workable android version for this game.

 

[ThenOliverSudden]

We need a new workable android version for this game.

No, young one. What we need is more Jill.

 

[lemonfreak]

No, young one. What we need is more Jill.

No, old bean, what we need is more ... Jill.

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[chocolatemilkgames]

"Maybe if I help him get rid of these urges now he'll get better and definitely isn't going to want to fuck me later. Yes, that makes sense, I'll just suck his cock real quick while he's asleep on this couch half naked."

Gotta love a good story.

The games with incest where the story is actually decent are far and few in between. The bar is low for adult VNs

 

[ThenOliverSudden]

No, old bean, what we need is more ... Jill.

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BLASPHEMY! I will have none of that!

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

My main problem with the photo is why obscure the name? If it’s Jill’s sister which seems likely, the photo saying ‘Val and Jill’ or whatever her name is wouldn’t have revealed anything. The only reason to obscure the name is if there is a reveal. You could argue the reveal is Jill is a Royce. But then the Bella photo is first name only why would Jill write their shared family name on a photo? Perhaps the caption could be ‘sis and me’. But again why hide this? What I’m getting at is there is a story reason for the anonymity of the photo.

That's true, a name wouldn't tell us anything and a last name wouldn't make much sense. Maybe DPC wants to keep things unclear for us despite being the obvious thing.

 

[Miskatonic81]

Suspension of disbelief is kinda required for these kind of games. I guess the good ones make you not realize you're doing it as much.

 

[Minengeschoss]

Re the previous discussion:

DPC has changed a lot during the last year or two. When he made AL he was a chippy friendly fellow who had a good sense of humour, but now when he has gone pro he's become much more tense. Understandably as Patreon support is his only income. I like to play poker for fun with friends, but it poker were my profession, I'd probably be tense and salty all the time as well. I haven't been on his discord in months, but back then he was stressed out a lot. Not of people in general, but because he set his bar so high that he has to deliver magnificent updates whatever the cost.

And about the $75 renders etc, he got really paranoid about those leaking, and towards this forum in general. The high-tier renders are requested by the paying patrons as a special reward and not for public use. AFAIK the high-tier patrons have a gentleman's agreement not to post the pictures or other awards to the larger public.

And no. He does not follow or read anything in this thread.

 

[Poisonblack]

Dude is making a lot of money from this game and more and more patrons are coming each day. I don't see a reason to be salty about this thread. This is free adverstising for his game and a lot of people become patrons because they discovered his game right here.

Fighting the internet is dumb. The once powerful music industry learned a very hard lesson about this in the 2000s. DPC could be smart and and think more about his actions before he faces similar problems.

 

[Miskatonic81]

His discord is now patrons only, which is actually how I found this site to begin with because I was craving discussion about his games.

 

[Conklingc]

Dude is making a lot of money from this game and more and more patrons are coming each day. I don't see a reason to be salty about this thread. This is free adverstising for his game and a lot of people become patrons because they discovered his game right here.

Fighting the internet is dumb. The once powerful music industry learned a very hard lesson about this in the 2000s. DPC could be smart and and think more about his actions before he faces similar problems.

I don't think DPC is hostile to this site, but Patrons who pay high subscription fees want to feel they are getting what they pay for. This site is the reason I became a patron so the advertising is true, but I'm not a $75/month patron and it's easy to understand he wants to make them feel it's worth spending that much to support him.

Many developers get burned out either because they lose interest or get tired of the criticism. Having a developer that wants to finish projects and make them seem complete is worth supporting to me. I didn't like Acting Lessons, but even after the harsh criticism DPC still finished it with 22 possible endings.

While it is sad to here the developer is more stressed out I feel the product is of very good quality overall, obviously it keeps us engaged with thousands of pages full of people speculating, arguing, or cheering for their favorite parts of the game or characters.

While there are things DPC could do to alienate fans and patrons I don't see not leaving personal messages on a pirate site as acting in a hostile manner.

 

[lemonfreak]

His discord is now patrons only, which is actually how I found this site to begin with because I was craving discussion about his games.

Has been that way for ages. Non patrons can join his discord, they just can't access any meaningful areas.

 

[Minengeschoss]

Dude is making a lot of money from this game and more and more patrons are coming each day. I don't see a reason to be salty about this thread. This is free adverstising for his game and a lot of people become patrons because they discovered his game right here.

Fighting the internet is dumb. The once powerful music industry learned a very hard lesson about this in the 2000s. DPC could be smart and and think more about his actions before he faces similar problems.

He's well aware that this site played a huge boost in his popularity initially, but today it's more of a liability. For us F95 is a obvious feature, but judging on the earlier discord activity a lot of those who found AL and BADIK on Steam are blissfully unaware of this forum. Some are completely VN amateurs who have played like one Anime VN earlier. And these are measured in thousands, believe or not.

I totally agree that fighting the internet is stupid, but he does his best to contain it and do damage control.

His discord is now patrons only, which is actually how I found this site to begin with because I was craving discussion about his games.

Speaking of which, when 0.3 was released there were over 9000 people on his discord (seriously, not meme 9000), of which around 1200 were patrons. That should tell something about the amount of paying and not-paying people.

 

[lemonfreak]

I compare the need for devs to engage with F95zone to the need for the Beatles to play the Cavern CLub when they're being offerered Shea Stadium.

 

[Roelandt]

Bella Being a DIK

One of the things I love about Bella is that she "Sneaks Peaks" at the MC frequently during the game, probably more than anyone else. I mean, Jade looks but they aren't Sneaks. She's overt about it. But it seems that whenever Bella get's the chance and she gets the options "Sneak Peek (+DIK)" or "Better Not Chance It," she almost always chooses her DIK option. I only noticed it later in the game my first run through, but on subsequent runs I kept my eyes open and saw quite a few.

Below is as comprehensive look as I could manage of the scenes with Bella Sneaking Peeks. If I missed any, please post them. *I've made the images Thumbnails in order to keep the post from being too long. Just click to view.

The first two entries aren't actual Sneak Peeks. They are surprise and shock. But I post them because I believe they gave her a "taste" for wanting to see more throughout the game.

-Caught Nude


-The First real Sneak Peek. +1 DIK


-Second Sneak Peek. Checking out that bum. +1 DIK


-Now this is the first time we see Bella being totally creepy. The MC is waking up so who knows how long Bella has been standing there staring at his almost naked body (remember, she undressed him earlier too, but that doesn't count here. I suspect this is a foreshadowing of things to come, so no + DIK. This is character development. So creepy!


-This is a good one. This is where her Sneak Peeks start getting wide-eyed and intense. +1 DIK


-Now, this one is iffy. I saw lots of shots of Bella "looking like" she was sneaking a peek but these were in the middle of the "blink animation" Doc uses (such as a lot with Jill). This is technically part of a blink, but it SO looks like she Peeking that I included it here. Still, it's technically a blink, so no + DIK.


-This one is another blink. BUT, this time she gets a steamy gawk at MC's chest before she blinks. So, +1 DIK.


-Okay. This isn't technically a Sneak Peek. But she's wearing Mirrored Glasses. Everyone knows that many men (and now women) wear mirrored glasses so they can gawk unseen without restrain. So, for our purposes I'll assume Bella wore these glasses so she can gawk without restraint. It's vague, so no + DIK.


-And here's where it get's good. During the Yoga sequence, Bella is No Holds Barred Intensely Peeking at the MC every chance she gets. Even more even than the MC does. Both characters spend the entire scene Peeking at each other. She racks up a bunch of DIK points here. Hilarious!!! +6 DIK (she does the Peek twice during the stretch...and the MC had to snap her out of it both times...awesome).

-Here she's overtly staring at the MC's butt during her entire conversation with Jill. The second slide shows what exactly she is staring at. It's technically one Peek, but since it goes on so long, I'll give her +2 DIK.


*And there you have it. If Bella was able to have a DIK score, she would have earned at least 12 points from these scenes.