Blue Milk

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Maya as a personality I think is quite appealing. I don't get all the hatred for her, but I'm going to posit a couple of theories as to why so many on this forum seem to dislike her.

One issue is that she is saddled with this not-quite-intelligible problem wherein she needs money to pay for tuition (though she's already in school) and to be independent. Dropping out and getting a job or something is out of the question because she wants to stay at B&R with Derek, Josy, and the MC. On the surface I get it but the details elude me or seem not as insurmountable as she feels they are. I mean, if all she has to do is deceive her father, then it seems easy enough for her to do that. But her situation's true purpose is to serve as a plot device, which is to tie one of the LIs (Maya) into Quinn's prostitution ring. Maya has to worry about it because DPC wants to have this as a foreboding issue in the game. It's not a crazy idea, as a plot device (especially for a porn game), and Maya is the unfortunate character whose fortunes can be connected to it, as contrived as it is.

When we see Maya not focused on her issue, she seems extremely likable. She loves horror movies, has a good sense of humor, enjoys a good party, dancing, and is discovering her wild side. What's not to like?

This brings me to the other theory about why I think some just don't like her, which is that she's a self-labeled feminist and wavering lesbian and the anonymity afforded us here allows some players to revel openly in their misogyny. Even if she was a happy-go-lucky girl without a care in the world, those players would hate her because...well, because they hate her.

I acknowledge that some point to her lying to the MC about her relationship with Josy to evidence that she is a horrible person, but it's clear in the game that she wanted to come clean about it, just as Josy did. She simply was scared to reveal the truth, for reasons we may not like but for reasons that in the game are quite valid for her. At worst, I would say she might not be someone you'd want to date, but hating her is unjustified.

She's not a real person, so it feels weird to say I feel sorry for her to be getting so much hate. She's not even an actress who has to deal with nutcases who can't distinguish fiction from reality when they see her at the grocery store or something, but it's hard not for me to feel a tad pissed off when people go on and on about how horrible she is. If she were a real person, the worst you could say about her is that she's young and naive.
Very well put. I agree with pretty much everything here about why she gets so much dislike and I share your feelings about how sad it is that she receives so much.

Yes, this is just a game and these people aren't real, and they are somewhat bound by how the writer has chosen to portray them, but it is rather sad to see people hold on such vitriol for a character who is already in such a dire state. It's very much like kicking someone when they're down and to see some people revel in it is quite disheartening.
 

lipe2410

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Yes, this is just a game and these people aren't real, and they are somewhat bound by how the writer has chosen to portray them, but it is rather sad to see people hold on such vitriol for a character who is already in such a dire state. It's very much like kicking someone when they're down and to see some people revel in it is quite disheartening.
The avarege f95 user is pretty intolerant if a girl in a girl in a porn game do something he doesn't like
 

Jumbi

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one last question.... i most rename persistent in that name i mean this one Transfer_Data.zip from renpy folder where are others saves?
I am not sure if I understand. What I think you mean is that you already have a transferdata file inside of the 'persistent' folder, right? That will certainly be the case if you have imported complete saves from seasons 1 and 2 to season 3 previously. Correct me if I am misunderstanding you.

In that case, if you get the transfer data from the post I linked and overwrite your own transfer data, you are going to lose your own imported games, obviously. If you want to keep them safe, which I can imagine you want to, make a backup of your own transfer data before having it overwritten by the one you have downloaded.
 

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Legally, it was rape. The MC was tied up and Quinn put his cock in her pussy without the explicit permission of the MC. This constitutes the crime of rape. It doesn't matter how long that lasted.
No, it wasn't. It doesn't happen if the MC doesn't consent. All you have to do is pretend to cum, and it doesn't happen.
 

The Glorious LIME

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We do have compassion and are willing to help the girls, like Riona, Nicole, Lily, Quinn etc.
(and yeah, i hope Maya commits suicide, i can't stand her)
Always a delight
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See I actually don't mind all of this because, as I've said, the nice moments outweigh all this tenfold, from my perspective.

I also think the other paths are way too easy and require almost no effort to achieve them, save for a couple of choices.

With M&J, their struggles, I feel, bring a lot of depth to this relationship because irl, all relationships have issues, and how you deal with that and whether you focus on them and allow them to occupy your every thought will determine how it goes. I'd even go so far as to say that DPC puts more effort into their path than any others, possibly because he cares a lot about it himself and wants to make something that's quite deep and compelling.

I choose to focus on the good moments, the happy moments, the sweet and warm moments, and I just focus on them and their characters rather than what's going on around, which honestly doesn't occupy all the time with them. I'm not saying that if I stopped doing it and focused on all the perceived negatives I'd change my mind because I wouldn't, I love these girls too damn much at this point, just that this is how I kind of naturally approach. And in talking about this game in other places, I've actually been able to convert a few people to at least liking Maya & Josy, if not fully stanning them, by extolling the virtues of this approach to just shut off all the external stuff and just focus on them, to read what they say, to absorb the meaning in their words, to look at the expressions, etc.

I don't think it will work so well here and I'm not trying to get people to do it, but I do think people focus too much on perceived negative aspects and therefore close themselves off too much.
It's ok to have a dramatic turn of events, every medium has it.
But MJ route is just one struggle after the other.
I personally don't need so much struggles in an AVN route.
Is Maya a victim? Hell yeah. Is DPC forcing the most drama possible in the MJ route for the sake of forced drama plots in the game? Hell yeah.
But at the end of the day, she's a fictional character.
So when I pick to play other paths, even Others path;
I don't like the game shoving her drama and plot in every route there is.
Maya and her drama is inevitable like Leah(from AL) so far.
So like I said, I respect you. And do enjoy what you like.

Is it nice that we are "kicking someone when he's down"?
Nah, but give me the option to ignore her in-game, and problem solved.
But nope, MJ and Maya drama is a flagship for this game's plot.

I guarantee you that most people here who dunk on Maya would help someone like her IRL.
Don't take everything on the internet too seriously.
I personally couldn't care less for AVN characters forced drama at this point.
I play BaDIK for the comedy most of all.
But If I'm gonna be honest, the community has been better than the game lately xD
Hell, Dalli here writes more interesting stories than DPC xD

But it all comes back to the following: Are there great, sweat and kind things in that route? Yeah.
Power to you for enjoying it and having the positive outweigh the negative.
And respect for anyone that enjoys what he likes and doesn't care about what the haters say.
But for me, on a personal note, MJ was doomed to fail from the start.
I can't look past the cheating at the start of the game. Stated a few times here, due to personal reasons.
I hate cheaters and that's a NO-NO from me, even in games.
And there is nothing anyone can say that can change my mind about that.

The avarege f95 user is pretty intolerant if a girl in a girl in a porn game do something he doesn't like
I don't like quite a few things Sage, Bella and Zoey do, but they are still favs.
But I do understand what you're saying.
 

Raziel_8

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Legally, it was rape. The MC was tied up and Quinn put his cock in her pussy without the explicit permission of the MC. This constitutes the crime of rape. It doesn't matter how long that lasted.

What Maya did is legally sexual harassment, but it was forced by a third party (Quinn), which leads to extenuating circumstances for Maya.
No, it isn't rape, the MC did at no point stop her or even tried to do so.
There is quite literally a choice to stop her (which he does) and one to let her continue, which is means the MC is fine with what happens.
Just because you don't get explicit permission doesn't mean it is rape, if the other party is trying to stop you and you continue then it is.

Maya wasn't forced, she did what she did cause she want's free tuition, she could have said no or stoped at any point.
Maya is not making herself a victim, Maya is a victim. Of Patrick and Quinn. Patrick punishes his own daughter for loving a girl and Quinn takes advantage of Maya financial situation. For her fun and that Maya should earn money for her in the restaurant as a prostitute.
Maya is a victim of Quinn :ROFLMAO:
Please, she knew that Quinn is a bitch and lies and she put herself in the situation she is in, again she could leave at any point.
Her making poor choices and believing a ridiculous rumor does not make her a victim, she chooses this.
I have more sympathy with Quinn and her background than for Maya in this situation.
 

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I am not sure if I understand. What I think you mean is that you already have a transferdata file inside of the 'persistent' folder, right? That will certainly be the case if you have imported complete saves from seasons 1 and 2 to season 3 previously. Correct me if I am misunderstanding you.

In that case, if you get the transfer data from the post I linked and overwrite your own transfer data, you are going to lose your own imported games, obviously. If you want to keep them safe, which I can imagine you want to, make a backup of your own transfer data before having it overwritten by the one you have downloaded.
i did like u told me every step and 0 result means not workin and i dont know why, dont appear my saves with Bella, Jill, Maya and Josy, Sage, Envy
 

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Are there any theories on who put the spycam in The Moose (assuming that was a spycam in the last shot, if not what was it?). I tried looking through the thread to see if it had been discussed but the sheer volume of comments in here is insane lol
 

Raziel_8

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Nah, but give me the option to ignore her in-game, and problem solved.
But nope, MJ and Maya drama is a flagship for this game's plot.
Yes, this.
I would have no problem with her if we could just ignore her. But her drama is forced down your throat and now DPC thinks it's a good idea to force her in nearly any path...i'm so fed up with Maya and her drama.
 
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Maya has been Selfish many times. She often victimizes herself. There are a lot of maya personality that I observe and I don't like than just the problems she deals with.
NGL, complaining about Maya being selfish and carrying a victim card is kind of hilarious given the girl in your pfp and the signature :V
 
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Jumbi

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i did like u told me every step and 0 result means not workin and i dont know why, dont appear my saves with Bella, Jill, Maya and Josy, Sage, Envy
Excuse me, I am not sure that I follow. Did you at any point transfered your own finished games from seasons 1 and 2 to the third season through the in-game Import feature? If you did, then you 100% have a transferdata file inside of the 'persistent' folder, which is located here in a Windows system: C:\Users\(your_username)\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\persistent

The name of that file should be something like this: BeingADIKSeason2Transfer1366998845

If said file is not present in your system, it means that you never imported games from the first two seasons to the third one.

Now, if you follow the instructions that I linked you before, you should end up having a new transfer_data file. And after you run the game and click on Import, you should see several saves to import to season 3.

If you don't see any games to import, it means that you are missing some step or doing something wrong.
 

Alphaeboy

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I started playing this last year since April. I replayed the whole game over 10 times and even using the mods to look over hidden moments I missed.
Now, after playing 9 eps. I just wanna name 10 of them that stick with me regardless how popular or unpopular my thoughts are.

10. Jill Picnic Date: It's romantic in me but I did love the moment with MC opening up to her and the music was like wow fit the whole date perfectly.

9. Throuple Start: I truly liked the lead it up to it regardless of how many hated MC for how he acted; then sleeping together with them is also a plus for me.

8. Sage sweet moments: I find hard to believe some people only noticed her sweet side in ep.8, when we have other eps showing this:

Sage letting MC stay with her because he there for her when she needed a friend; that same night she gave alcohol to cheer him up then the moment MC gave her a piggy back was priceless.

Her feeling bad about joking about his mom; playing guitar with her outside was another great moment; him taking care of her being sick.
I honestly, don't feel comfortable skipping out on taking care of her because it felt like a important in their relationship because he opened about how he felt about his birthday. I think moment a part of her realized she was into him but the whole Rebound guy moment showed her he felt the same way. I say she scared of that; needed time to think it thru.

Then her taking a chance with helping Maya.

Plus, her ending was pretty sweet as choosing her & rejecting her because she's understanding about it because she rather have you as a lover or a friend then you lose altogether. That's why I consider her & Josy canon girls sometimes.

7. The ending of eps. 3,7, 8 & 9 were perfect loved how all of them got you interested to find out what's going to happen next.

6. I felt like the HOT party was the best free roam by far and throwing the jocks was fucking great.

5. All Quinn scenes in season 2

4. Playing Bella & Jill route choosing Bella in ep.8 because I love drama then Bella final scene with the song just stuck with me in my rent free. "We can run run till fly away" damn that was my favorite main girl ending.

3. I loved Jill ending & Tybalt cucking Tybalt was fucking icing on the cake.

2. Josy "Easy to Love" moment made me fall for Josy hard, and it's pretty clear I'm going to choose her over at the end of the day.

1. Tybalt's DIK Presentation:
I'm tell I didn't know this great moment existed until someone in reddit pointed it out, so I replayed ep. 5. Wait until ep.7 then I saw it and I am still laughing my ass off till this day.

Also, that Josy would laugh her ass if he lost his tooth; including that moment is 1000x more funny when Sage & Josy know it's MC penis LOL. Then Josy teasing about it with MC in ep.8 then in ep.9 she fucking laughing at Tybalt & even when he snitched she couldn't help herself.

Okay now what everyone else's top 10 moments that stuck with you no matter how big or small it was.
 

WhiteWolf35Uk

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Excuse me, I am not sure that I follow. Did you at any point transfered your own finished games from seasons 1 and 2 to the third season through the in-game Import feature? If you did, then you 100% have a transferdata file inside of the 'persistent' folder, which is located here in a Windows system: C:\Users\(your_username)\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\persistent

The name of that file should be something like this: BeingADIKSeason2Transfer1366998845

If said file is not present in your system, it means that you never imported games from the first two seasons to the third one.

Now, if you follow the instructions that I linked you before, you should end up having a new transfer_data file. And after you run the game and click on Import, you should see several saves to import to season 3.

If you don't see any games to import, it means that you are missing some step or doing something wrong.
so, i look again in that folder called renpy/persistent and yes i found that file called BeingADIKSeason2Transfer1366998845 only problem is when i launch the game with season 3 on load dont appear nothin like that saves, i really dont know why or how. i dont know what step is wrong. i am new on this, dont be mad at me, thanks. much appreciated
 

Blue Milk

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It's ok to have a dramatic turn of events, every medium has it.
But MJ route is just one struggle after the other.
I personally don't need so much struggles in an AVN route.
But this is what I was saying, I don't see it that way. People focus on the perceived negatives too much that they blow it out of all proportions.

The only issue really facing them is Patrick holding Maya's finances and her future hostage. That's it. They don't get hit with "one struggle after the other", it's just this one thing and some things tied to it, like Maya and Josy not feeling they can go public with their relationship.

And again, this really is not much of an issue because, like I said, DPC does not labour over it in every single moment with M&J. The good moments with them where this isn't being referenced and isn't front of mind far outweigh the moments where it's brought up for story arc purposes.

In my opinion, it's an overblown falsehood that the "issues" of this relationship are present and referenced at all times, because they are not.

Is Maya a victim? Hell yeah. Is DPC forcing the most drama possible in the MJ route for the sake of forced drama plots in the game? Hell yeah.
But at the end of the day, she's a fictional character.
So when I pick to play other paths, even Others path;
I don't like the game shoving her drama and plot in every route there is.
Maya and her drama is inevitable like Leah(from AL) so far.
So like I said, I respect you. And do enjoy what you like.
The thing is, almost all games with a plot force you to do things in order to progress the game. People may not like having to do a certain action, or see something happen to a character they like, or the way the game ends, etc, but that's how the game is and how the developer(s) have designed it. It's their story to tell and they're going to tell it their way.

The other thing I think people often overlook when it comes to their argument that she is "forced in every route" is that, at the end of the day, the MC is not the player. He is an avatar which the players have some control over, but certain things will always be universally true, and one of those things is that the MC is still friends with Maya and Josy and so he will be there for them at certain times when required. They're also all freshmen together and so have classes together, and they also have a connection through the DIKs and HOTs and the fact that they will be at parties together too. This is all perfectly natural for these characters, not unnaturally "forced", as is them meeting and interacting outside of these places due to the aforementioned friendship they have.

This, therefore, makes them the most prominent girls in his life by both simple proximity and friendship. Most of the others are somewhat distanced from a lot of this, but DPC still finds a way to bring them in to the MC's orbit. And let's not overlook the fact there are parts of other MG stories that are, were, and will be forced too, like Sage and Chad, Jill and Tybalt, and Bella and James.

Is it nice that we are "kicking someone when he's down"?
Nah, but give me the option to ignore her in-game, and problem solved.
But nope, MJ and Maya drama is a flagship for this game's plot.
Again, this comes back to the point about control. It's not up to you decide that because you don't have total control. DPC has established that they have a friendship and people need to accept that.

At the end of the day, whilst I can understand people having reasons for not liking this route such as not being a fan of non-monogamous relationships, one or both girls aren't their type, or simply thinking of them better as friends. But I feel that the harsher criticisms are often ranging from nitpicky grudges to downright reprehensible views. I'm not saying anything about where you fall in that spectrum because I don't know you and I won't make aspersions, but I fully get that you have certain views on cheating. I personally see it very differently and with a lot more caveats, but I won't get into it.

I think people just need to enjoy, or at least try to enjoy, this game for what it is. There's things that are going to happen and are going to be the case that people won't like, but when all is said and done, it's a story, and like all stories, it will foster different views in people based on their outlooks on life and their personal analysis of the storytelling. But people spending all their energy denegrating and dunking on one thing, especially something or someone that the story does a fair bit of dunking on itself, for the same worn-out reasons becomes both tedious and depressively irritating after a while, and the toxicity in this portion of the community becomes a real blight on the whole thing.
 

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so, i look again in that folder called renpy/persistent and yes i found that file called BeingADIKSeason2Transfer1366998845 only problem is when i launch the game with season 3 on load dont appear nothin like that saves, i really dont know why or how. i dont know what step is wrong. i am new on this, dont be mad at me, thanks. much appreciated
No problem. I am not mad, no reason for it really. That said, I have run out of ideas. I cannot help you any further. Sorry.
 
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WhiteWolf35Uk

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No problem. I am not mad, no reason for it really. That said, I have run out of ideas. I cannot help you any further. Sorry.
Finally i made it and it works (I hope) only weird thing is i have other name like Stevan and not Alex like i have it before on season 2, why? And last mods for season 3 is not working.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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I find it funny when someone claims that Quinn didn't rape the MC...

The MC's choice was to swallow cum or let Quinn have sex with him in front of a huge crowd (with him tied to a chair).

If I give a girl a choice as disgusting as this can I get away with a rape charge? For example, "drink a glass full of sewage's water and feces or I'll rape you". :unsure:
Just to clarify and not taking sides, the MC pretended to cum and didn't swallow anything from the condom. Because there wasn't anything to swallow, basically.

Hi guys, can anyone please tell how i can end season 2 together with Jill after i did every step or way to be with her, i help'd her with musical and everythin else before and know when i most make a choice at DIK when i talk with Elena, on me appear only mod both, Sage or others, Jill name not appear, why? I most change affinity from DIK to neutral or? Help me pls, thanks
For Jill you can't be a DIK, you have to be NEUTRAL at most, and you have to go on the picnic with her. I'm not sure if there are more requisites, but you need those two at least.
 
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