RPGM Being an Adventurer Is Not Always the Best [Ch.2] [DYNAMO]

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hermesh

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I know english is not my main language but this litterly says when it designed to cause jealousy ( because lets be real, scenes like in this game are done with this as main purpose because NTR novel) then its in the end not avoidable because it still happens and the jealousy is present since we as the player experience it. It dosent tells if its a MAIN Love interest, just some love interest... but here again I guess its quibbling about the same issue because like you said there are tons of different views on the topic.
Well, thats kinda my point: Emma is not a love interest of the MC. As in, not at all: not a side or minor love interest or even a unrecognized one-sided love interest (like Emma's sister whose advances the MC seems oblivious to). The MC shows no interest in Emma, and Emma shows no interest in the MC. There was a budding love between Oliver and Emma, which is why the MC says something along the line of "oh poor Oliver, how will take this?" - but nothing about himself.

Now, if you wanna say "oh but *I* think Emma is hot and would like the MC to have a relationship with her", that's fine but nothing in-game supports that the MC feels that way. The distinction between player and MC is important, cause otherwise nobody but the MC would be allowed to have ANY relationship. I mean, there are games like that (making all other males old, gay or non-existent). But that's far beyond the definition you quoted.
 

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Well, thats kinda my point: Emma is not a love interest of the MC. As in, not at all: not a side or minor love interest or even a unrecognized one-sided love interest (like Emma's sister whose advances the MC seems oblivious to). The MC shows no interest in Emma, and Emma shows no interest in the MC. There was a budding love between Oliver and Emma, which is why the MC says something along the line of "oh poor Oliver, how will take this?" - but nothing about himself.

Now, if you wanna say "oh but *I* think Emma is hot and would like the MC to have a relationship with her", that's fine but nothing in-game supports that the MC feels that way. The distinction between player and MC is important, cause otherwise nobody but the MC would be allowed to have ANY relationship. I mean, there are games like that (making all other males old, gay or non-existent). But that's far beyond the definition you quoted.
Personally I have no interest or desire to see sex scenes between any guy who is not the MC and any girl. Can non-NTR voyeur scenes be skipped?
 

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Personally I have no interest or desire to see sex scenes between any guy who is not the MC and any girl. Can non-NTR voyeur scenes be skipped?
Only those directly affecting the MC can be skipped. There is one scene where Amelia (MCs LI) and the MC together stumble upon Emma (LI of MCs best male friend Oliver) and Jax (a guy that beats up Oliver regulary) having sex. It not like "oh lets be voyeurs", but a "WTF is she doing, fucking that idiot behind Olivers back" and "what should we tell Oliver". But you WILL see it, its completely unexpected (MC is set up on false pretense by Emmas sister) and thus not avoidable.
 
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Well, thats kinda my point: Emma is not a love interest of the MC. As in, not at all: not a side or minor love interest or even a unrecognized one-sided love interest (like Emma's sister whose advances the MC seems oblivious to). The MC shows no interest in Emma, and Emma shows no interest in the MC. There was a budding love between Oliver and Emma, which is why the MC says something along the line of "oh poor Oliver, how will take this?" - but nothing about himself.

Now, if you wanna say "oh but *I* think Emma is hot and would like the MC to have a relationship with her", that's fine but nothing in-game supports that the MC feels that way. The distinction between player and MC is important, cause otherwise nobody but the MC would be allowed to have ANY relationship. I mean, there are games like that (making all other males old, gay or non-existent). But that's far beyond the definition you quoted.
I get what you mean, but check the comment from hitmanbhi on #262
Im not gonna portray the devil on the walls but if he is right then Im not wrong if I say that the "NTR avoidable" counts only for this so called LI -> which will came much later in the story and therefore since these others arnt called "LI" by the story/author -> everything goes aka they getting fucked dosent count as NTR IF we follow this logic, right ?

But that brings back to my previous thought, which is not specific for this game regarding but can still used in such:
-Where lets say you have "side" characters who are constandly in the story and have these scene, we are speaking about 50-90%.
-Where the Antagonist have the most focus on story AND sex.
-Where the "side" or "main" girls got fucked much earlier and constandly by either other males or the antagonist.
-> Does this automaticly count as NTR ?
Technically no because as some pointed out, technically they werent in a relationship, respectively MC didnt had these feelings for said character. But if this changed during the game ? Does this wont play in the judgement of the player, which the whole "creating jealousy" comes up ?
And what if she looked it through the fetish perspective, which for a porn game is obvious. Whats so "important" for the others having sex, if not the MC when we are playing it ? -> Voyurism, and if the story is about the heavy NTR I read in the comments the question answear itself.

By all means, if this is the standart, either here on this site or universal (?), ok for me but how do you adress it then as such what we have here ? Voyurism focus since MC dont care. But what about the female best friend and mother of MC ?
It turns out they are sexually invovled with others AND the antagonist, which brings back to my point about "Mother NTR."
But then I suppose it is not a wonder that people get confused and will probably keep asking the same questions and confuse this. Anyway, from the previous comments and what hitmanbhi said this will be a ntr game one way or another with the difference you can keep that one girl to yourself while the rest stays the same. Nothing for me and if such is in development then its great for their fans, but personally I see why people get confused when they see "NTR avoidable" but then turns out its not the case at all.
 

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I get what you mean, but check the comment from hitmanbhi on #262
Im not gonna portray the devil on the walls but if he is right then Im not wrong if I say that the "NTR avoidable" counts only for this so called LI -> which will came much later in the story and therefore since these others arnt called "LI" by the story/author -> everything goes aka they getting fucked dosent count as NTR IF we follow this logic, right ?
The MC has romantic moments with Amelia & can even have romantic dates with her, 2 kissing scenes etc. She might not be his official GF, but she is clearly interested. hitmanbhi could be right if you follow only the original story on choya since the MC there is either unable or unwilling to act on his feelings, but the game shows her as very clear LI, at least on the non-NTR path.

Its true there is no universal standard, so many things can be argued to be NTR. I just prefer to stick to the (technical) site definition (while on f95zone) so there is (somewhat) solid ground to stand on...
 

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Only those directly affecting the MC can be skipped. There is one scene where Amelia (MCs LI) and the MC together stumble upon Emma (LI of MCs best male friend Oliver) and Jax (a guy that beats up Oliver regulary) having sex.
Just a minor correction, it's not jax, nor cal, I forget his name, he's the third dark haired guy in their posse, *Fabe or something.
 
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This is annoying to play on joiplay. For some reason less than half of the available resolution is used. Wonder whether a plugin is forcing that.
 
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The definition of NTR is being fiercely debated in numerous battlefields. Reddit, tv tropes, the Chans, nhentai comment sections, youtube comment sections. Tiktok, etc.
I now understand why religious schism happen even though the people mostly believe in the same thing. It's the little details that cause fierce disagreements.
I find it kinda funny. In the end NTR lovers should stick together, regardless of our disagreements. After all our fetish is considered one of the most hated on the internet.
 

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After finishing this latest update, I'll revise my earlier criticism of dev - I think he actually did the paths quite well.

For those unaware, the major split point is How much you use the ghost, and whether you go with Amelia when she invites mc to go flowerpicking

This path choice even affects the dialogue of some minor npcs - I noticed the maids in the mansion would have different lines depending on which path you were on.


Also, Amelia is wayyy hotter than I remember, holy smokes! I had always gotten this confused with farmer's dreams in my memory, but pretty much all the models across the board are better-Amelia and the blonde she reads with are stand-outs.
 
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The MC has romantic moments with Amelia & can even have romantic dates with her, 2 kissing scenes etc. She might not be his official GF, but she is clearly interested. hitmanbhi could be right if you follow only the original story on choya since the MC there is either unable or unwilling to act on his feelings, but the game shows her as very clear LI, at least on the non-NTR path.

Its true there is no universal standard, so many things can be argued to be NTR. I just prefer to stick to the (technical) site definition (while on f95zone) so there is (somewhat) solid ground to stand on...
But you see how confusing it gets the more we try to pinpoint the issue ? It reminds me on the topic of "terms of service" on various social sites which tell you much and simultaneously tells nothing. And when the TOS decides how to act ( example is twitch.com ) its a all about the moderators personal preference if he either follows suit or ignores it.

On the one hand we should it judge by its technical term while on the same time it can be argued with by various characteristics like the ones I named in my two previous posts ?

In the end I didnt get either further nor smarter regarding this issue in of this "avoidable" term.
 

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I swear I read the plot of this story on CHYOA

Is this yours?


If so, great story!<3
 

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Sadly RPGM are treated harshly here unlike russian speaking forums. Im a fan of such game myself and its hard to find something awesome. I enjoy VN but its not comparable with a RPGM because you can litterly roleplay as such. According to The_Patriarch43 this is one of such great coded and well crafted RPGMs, but the obvious and questionable fetish is a turn off, at least for me.

Perhpas the reason why people here are against RPGMs is because they are hastily crafted, to grindy or dont offer a good amout of sex, so I kinda understand the grievances about it. But I also played good RPGM (Non-Porn) and I thought if this even had porn then this would be a banger.
Sadly there arnt that many easy to understand tutorials regarding this engine. Otherwise I would spend more time and money on creating my personal porn game then lurking and hoping to find something similar haha.
Ye there are a lot of hastily crafted ones, but the good ones are banging. If you want some recommendations I can send ya same title in a DM.
 

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Ye there are a lot of hastily crafted ones, but the good ones are banging. If you want some recommendations I can send ya same title in a DM.
Oh please do. But if you can please without ntr or female protag :whistle::coffee:

Edit: And if by chance you found any easy understanding tutorials im always looking for them. IMO the more such information get passed to the masses the higher the chance we will get more of great RPGM games. Im at least still didnt lost my fire of creating one.
 

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But you see how confusing it gets the more we try to pinpoint the issue ? It reminds me on the topic of "terms of service" on various social sites which tell you much and simultaneously tells nothing. And when the TOS decides how to act ( example is twitch.com ) its a all about the moderators personal preference if he either follows suit or ignores it.

On the one hand we should it judge by its technical term while on the same time it can be argued with by various characteristics like the ones I named in my two previous posts ?

In the end I didnt get either further nor smarter regarding this issue in of this "avoidable" term.
Could we agree then that ambigious/subjective terminology is a bad thing when it comes to rule definitions?

The MC has romantic moments with Amelia & can even have romantic dates with her, 2 kissing scenes etc. She might not be his official GF, but she is clearly interested. hitmanbhi could be right if you follow only the original story on choya since the MC there is either unable or unwilling to act on his feelings, but the game shows her as very clear LI, at least on the non-NTR path.

Its true there is no universal standard, so many things can be argued to be NTR. I just prefer to stick to the (technical) site definition (while on f95zone) so there is (somewhat) solid ground to stand on...
After playing both paths it seems crystal-clear to me (and I would hope others) that the dev is going to do a 2-path approach to game, where only the red path follows his choya story.

This is further evidenced by the binary setup of the replay gallery.



Unrelated - I hope the dev doesnt completely neglect the non-porn traditional rpg elements in future updates; I always found it fun tinkering around with different armor setups in games like "Wicked Rouge" - here it's pretty basic right now "Cloth armor" vs "No cloth armor" lol. Weapon spoiler - even after the first upgrade, drax's sword is massively inferior to the long sword you can purchase. If you're having trouble with combat in this game, get the long sword, finish mother's skill training, then go around cleaving every mob for 200+ dmg....
 

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Damn, it's brilliant. First version was great but this update vastly improved it. It's very rare to see a game with this kind of writing and meaningful gameplay loop. My only problem is that it's more or less just Kase with everyone (except Emma). I'd hope for more sleazy rivals (like his father). Oh and banner on this thread could be improved a lot. Except for that nothing to pick on. Excellent game
 

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it like that in the quest to get mr enzos dog
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the dog is a key item and the desribtion is
key to the main door of mr. enzo's mansion :ROFLMAO:
so you see man's best friend is and always will be a dog
and it even opens doors (y)
 
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