Ren'Py Being Super [v0.20a Dark] [Sandman Games and Art]

[talion777]

Ambition is great, but sometimes the great is the enemy of the good. I support making this game into a VN, businesswise, that's where the money is and its just easier to write and code. But what I don't support is two different versions of the same protagonist. Look most of us here are white. I'm white. And I believe all of us would be perfectly fine with a black MC. Or a white MC. What is not okay is TWO. Its increasing the workload and slowing the pace. Successful games accelerate. Either by quickening the Dev cycle or lengthening the update size.

This game is slowly grinding to a halt. Like you said, the plot has been stuck in place for a year while each update promises to advance it. This is bad for the supporters, but worse for the Devs. It's so frustrating to want to push your story forward and instead be chained to a spot waiting to advance.

It's a great game. The use of powers, the fun characters, the interesting lore and the solid (though few) sex scenes are quite compelling. But we should be at the next chunk of story by now. And if this game wants to succeed, it needs to get to that chunk ASAP.

Yes, the parallel development of white and black characters is a waste of time. I said this in the Patreon feeds too, that rather than chop of the game the dev should concentrate on one character and stick with it to save time and resources. Black or white doesn't matter to me.

As for making this game into a VN, you really can't with the existing material. The game was designed as a sandbox game with these game elements being played in parallel rather than sequentially, and for the gym and office paths to be followed independently and in parallel as well. The dev is trying to use elements that were never planned to be used sequentially and turn it into a cohesive story. It doesn't work. The story makes no sense that way and the rather lame new linkages he is using to try to connect those elements sequentially makes the story writing look weak. When I said this to the dev in Patreon he came back and said he was frustrated by the process too, and that it affected his ambitions, but, as you said, it was going to make the game development easier, faster, and commercially viable quicker. What it wasn't going to do is make the game better. He is selling out the original vision to try to make it an easy to develop VN. He thought it would be quicker. Well, here we are a year later and it's not developing faster. It's not developing at all and it's STILL not into new story material. It would have been easier to stay the original course, shorten up the overall storyline, and then wrap up the game and move to a VN project that would have made sense. As it is the superpower and skills development portions of the game might as well not be there.

I had so much fun with this game initially, and then I just had to bail because it degraded by about 80% with the transition.

 

[walker188]

Yes, the parallel development of white and black characters is a waste of time. I said this in the Patreon feeds too, that rather than chop of the game the dev should concentrate on one character and stick with it to save time and resources. Black or white doesn't matter to me.

As for making this game into a VN, you really can't with the existing material. The game was designed as a sandbox game with these game elements being played in parallel rather than sequentially, and for the gym and office paths to be followed independently and in parallel as well. The dev is trying to use elements that were never planned to be used sequentially and turn it into a cohesive story. It doesn't work. The story makes no sense that way and the rather lame new linkages he is using to try to connect those elements sequentially makes the story writing look weak. When I said this to the dev in Patreon he came back and said he was frustrated by the process too, and that it affected his ambitions, but, as you said, it was going to make the game development easier, faster, and commercially viable quicker. What it wasn't going to do is make the game better. He is selling out the original vision to try to make it an easy to develop VN. He thought it would be quicker. Well, here we are a year later and it's not developing faster. It's not developing at all and it's STILL not into new story material. It would have been easier to stay the original course, shorten up the overall storyline, and then wrap up the game and move to a VN project that would have made sense. As it is the superpower and skills development portions of the game might as well not be there.

I had so much fun with this game initially, and then I just had to bail because it degraded by about 80% with the transition.

You're probably right about the sandbox. I truly hope the Dev turns things around, his writing skill is good and his creativity is excellent, this game has potential, so much potential, but like so many games you have to look at the timeline, Devs want supporters to just keep paying, but at a glacial development pace so many have, you won't see the full release for a decade and that is a huge commitment and very long wait for a payoff.

 

[blackmetal]

last update was october last year is this abandoned

 

[Deleted member 643941]

last update was october last year is this abandoned

Dev is active on his patreon. His last post was 2 days ago. I do not think it is abandoned.

 

[boobsrcool]

I'm white. And I believe all of us would be perfectly fine with a black MC.

No way lol. Didn't the dev stop doing the alternate version?

 

[whatisthisabout]

Hi, there seems to be a bug the scene in which goth guy from the supermarket calls to your front door is replayed over and over again and you can't progress past it. Just wondering if that's since been fixed for anyone. thanks

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Hi, there seems to be a bug the scene in which goth guy from the supermarket calls to your front door is replayed over and over again and you can't progress past it. Just wondering if that's since been fixed for anyone. thanks

Ask Victoria to pay money at shop

 

[Deleted member 643941]

Anyone know any news related to next update?

 

[jetama]

Anyone know any news related to next update?

Dev is hard at work, biggest update to date. No release date for update confirmed. Hoping for end of this month.

 

[Canto Forte]

Dev Diary 002
Hello,progress for 0.19 is going good.
We have rendered another 150 or so renders more than the last time

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[talion777]

You guys asking for news on updates are asking the wrong question. The question should be when is new material going to be coming out instead of regurgitating and reintegrating the old stuff. There hasn't been an "update" in over a year (approximately) just a regurgitation of old content now bonded together with linking sequences. I frankly can't even begin to understand what the delays are given that all of the material/renders etc have all already been done for ages now. I shudder to think how long it will take to update when DEV finally gets around to presenting new material.

 

[Griinch]

You guys asking for news on updates are asking the wrong question. The question should be when is new material going to be coming out instead of regurgitating and reintegrating the old stuff. There hasn't been an "update" in over a year (approximately) just a regurgitation of old content now bonded together with linking sequences. I frankly can't even begin to understand what the delays are given that all of the material/renders etc have all already been done for ages now. I shudder to think how long it will take to update when DEV finally gets around to presenting new material.

Thats EXACTLY how I felt playing up to the latest patch. If/when the deveolper comes out with something new, then I'll comeback to it, but if I see that its going to be the same stuff again, I am not even going to bother. I stopped "enjoying" this game half way through up to where we are at now. This game needs a serious overhaul

 

[Tico7533on]

On another note, what's the deal with this Light Skin / Dark skin, is that there so players can choose something closer to their actual ethnicity, or what?

 

[jetama]

On another note, what's the deal with this Light Skin / Dark skin, is that there so players can choose something closer to their actual ethnicity, or what?

I think it's just which one you would rather play as. I would prefer if the dev just picked one and stuck to it, it's kind of double work almost isn't it? Maybe updates would be faster if that were the case.

 

[walker188]

I think it's just which one you would rather play as. I would prefer if the dev just picked one and stuck to it, it's kind of double work almost isn't it? Maybe updates would be faster if that were the case.

The updates are actually slowing down, especially considering the lack of NEW content. Changing from sandbox to VN isn't easy, but you're still just stringing the scenes together, the renders and animations would already be done. So why is the pace slowing so much?

That being said, I support picking a skin tone and sticking with it, it would lower the future workload.

 

[Canto Forte]

Devs have renders sorted and are working on the animations chosen by their suporters.
They already cut out a whole branch of the game that had a LI and a date and snu snu ...
HEre is hope they keep adding rather than cutting content, especially in a game with stats building
and separate power set paths.

why is the pace slowing so much?

 

[boobsrcool]

I think it's just which one you would rather play as. I would prefer if the dev just picked one and stuck to it, it's kind of double work almost isn't it? Maybe updates would be faster if that were the case.

I believe the dev stopped the dark version a while ago

 

[Canto Forte]

Well .. you may very well do that, but ... maybe ...
Take a look at the many options in the OP.

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I believe

 

[Chin1983]

Post of previews in Patreon. Anyone share?

 

[dreamgoat]

You guys asking for news on updates are asking the wrong question. The question should be when is new material going to be coming out instead of regurgitating and reintegrating the old stuff. There hasn't been an "update" in over a year (approximately) just a regurgitation of old content now bonded together with linking sequences. I frankly can't even begin to understand what the delays are given that all of the material/renders etc have all already been done for ages now. I shudder to think how long it will take to update when DEV finally gets around to presenting new material.

Thanks I was going to give a try but looking at your post don't think I would want to invest the time into. Thanks for saving my time