VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.2] [Dream Games]

[xXwankerXx]

Release of chapter 1:

40 patrons, 150 players on discord server

5 months gap

Release of chapter 2:

80 patrons, 300 players on discord server

Which only proves my point... shocker. I never said the dev struggled to make money, considering this is the 2nd update he released so far, I said he could do better with a game this promising, and judging by his replies, he wants to do better too, cuz this type of hobby ain't cheap. He already complained about his PC being too old, imagine how happy he'd be if his GPU, PSU, SSD/Hard Drive died on him. This is a potential risk you always have to take into account if you decide to become a dev. Getting them repaired takes time, which slows down the development, or worse, he risks losing his assets and all the stuff he worked so hard on, like it happened to Deaf Perv, buying new ones costs a shitload of money. You do the math.

Btw, out of those 300 players on his discord you mentioned there, why do only 80 support him, if I'm wrong in my assumption ?? Do you pay him to work on the game, and if you don't, why won't you ??

And just between us... Such things are really only watched by sick people. I'm glad you confirmed it

Takes one to know one, or at least, to make stupid assumptions like that, and that's my last reply to you. Stop replying to me, and feel free to put me on ignore, cuz I definitely won't waste my time talking to somebody like you anymore. Buh-bye !!

 

[Blackheartz_]

this is so good.

 

[FatGiant]

Just played the ch2 and it amazing kudos to the dev for his work. This game is definitely is worth a try.
was also surprised the cameo

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That cameo almost made me jump in my chair. She's one of the most loved characters of any game for me.

Peace

 

[Jah-Ith-Ber]

Good lord the amount of crybaby virgins on this thread is ridiculous. If a game has something I don't like I might drop a review or 1 comment then bounce not spend weeks and dozens of comments crying about it.

I really loved the story. Chp 2 felt really short compared to chp 1 though. I know part was probably cause of rewrite and part c ause dev had more time for chp 1 so I just hope they don't get stuck in the cycle of re-write hell and just push forward.

I see game is now listed as multiple protagonist? Has this been explained by the Dev? I'm assuming Olivia will be the second protag?

Olivia is pretty and I get people being a little a little annoyed at the bait (she had a crush on him as a kid and its kind of hinted they aren't biologically related) but the MC has a ton of fresh options (Samantha sexy AF, Tattoo cripple sexy AF, redhead childhood best friend? Yes please) so overall I'm fine with no incest and her going her own lezzie way. The game sort of lends itself to multiple protagonists the way its framed about a family copying with tragedy and change it always felt less centered on just the MC.

Author just needs to ignore the Elliot Rogers fan club who don't even pay for the game (AKA incels with xXxXxX in their name ) and stick to their vision

 

[NebulousShooter]

a family copying with tragedy and change it always felt less centered on just the MC.

I never thought about that aspect , but I still think its not necessary to be multiple protag, it can just be done with multiple characters perspective, just like a tv show would, but the MC is still the MC. Hell you can argue even MC has yet to have meaningful choice, making same level of minor ones while playing Olivia I don't feel they would add that much to the story.

Btw, Being a DIK has always done the same thing with multiple character perspectives and flashbacks, albeit to a lesser extent than this episode and only got the 'multiple protag' tag when Interlude dropped.

 

[xXwankerXx]

You and a couple others take the cake there. No, I'm not trying to start shit, just stating a fact.

That's your definition for toxic ppl ?? What do you call ppl like this Jah-Ith-Ber who's actively following my posts just to facepalm them cuz he can't come up with a coherent sentence to prove me wrong, and, like all trolls, goes straight for retarded, ridiculous insults, cuz that's the only thing they're capable of. It's not like I give a shit about a few trolls who bump up my like counter, but for real now, some ppl here really need a life and a woman to keep them busy and away from fictional porn, ffs.

Good lord the amount of crybaby virgins on this thread is ridiculous.

Remind me again, do all of these 'crybabies' insult you like the peasants they are and facepalm all your posts too, cuz I could swear I only did that to just a few, none of which being yours ?? Oh, and using arguments like "dev should stick to their vision cuz I like the story and am perfectly fine with everything as long I still like it, fuck what everyone else says " and calling me an incel only proves what our boy DarkSithLord47 said above, so don't bother calling me ridiculous names like that. Is this your best argument ?? How old are you, bruh ??

You can say and think whatever you want about those 'crybabies', but as long as you and others like you offend ppl for asking a few questions and criticizing some aspects of the game or things story-related they don't like just cuz you like them, the only thing you'll accomplish is looking way worse than those 'crybabies' and 'incels' you're berating. Go get some professional help ASAP and stay away from the internet, preferably forever.

 

[NebulousShooter]

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So, an account made just to hate on a singular game, fascinating lifestyle

 

[Rex G]

is there a walkthrought to this game or do i even need it

 

[Bad Wolf]

That's your definition for toxic ppl ?? What do you call ppl like this @Jah-Ith-Ber who's actively following my posts just to facepalm them cuz he can't come up with a coherent sentence to prove me wrong, and, like all trolls, goes straight for retarded, ridiculous insults, cuz that's the only thing they're capable of. It's not like I give a shit about a few trolls who bump up my like counter, but for real now, some ppl here really need a life and a woman to keep them busy and away from fictional porn, ffs.

Did I say toxic? I said extreme. There's a difference. If that person did that, that's toxic. You should return the favor. But then the toxicity continues. Just my 2cents.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Did I say toxic? I said extreme. There's a difference.

It IS a lil difference, in our context, ofc, and I even gave you an example in that reply... it's just like telling an ugly dude he's not ugly, just bellow-average looking, or so says the dictionary. Google it, but before you do that, tell me who's more "extreme", ppl who keep their complaints on topic cuz it's a fictional porn game or those who straight up insult them for ridiculous reasons, like in the 2nd reply above yours ?? I'd say it's the 2nd example, but I may be wrong about this. What do you think ??

 

[Bad Wolf]

It IS a lil difference, in our context, ofc, and I even gave you an example in that reply... it's just like telling an ugly dude he's not ugly, just bellow-average looking, or so says the dictionary. Google it, but before you do that, tell me who's more "extreme", ppl who keep their complaints on topic cuz it's a fictional porn game or those who straight up insult them for ridiculous reasons, like in the 2nd reply above yours ?? I'd say it's the 2nd example, but I may be wrong about this. What do you think ??

There's a lot of toxicity in these forums. I've grown accustomed to it now. Plus if we report a douchebag, we're the ones that usually get a warning. I've given up on it. I say what I want, when I want and take my lumps. Mostly people just humor me these days, as all I do pretty much anymore is joke around. I've learned that is pretty damn hard to have a real discussion without someone getting their panties in a twist.

 

[Hengat]

So much drama. I liked the game after chapter 1 because it has great renders and showed potential but now I'm not sure what to think.

It's a bit too sad and boring. I love that it touches such heavy topics but as someone mentioned before it's a bit exaggerated. Mother's cancer is enough and Olivia's depression unbalance the scale a bit. Is there even a small room for some comic relief or something?
Too much Olivia for sure. I feel like I know more about her than about MC at this point. I won't get into the argument about her sex scene. I'll just say I'm not a fan and if dev said future ones will be avoidable than I don't understand why the one in chapter 2 isn't now.
It's reaaallyyy slow paced. Two chapters and not even two in game days passed.
Not many choices either.

Sam: "Don't be mad"
MC: "I'm not mad"

Olivia:"Before you tell me you're disappointed..."
MC:"I'm not disappointed"

Seriously, he's too much of a good guy with no flaws, constantly reassuring everyone.
The story should circle some more around MC's job and how he gets the money. Is it legal? Is it dangerous? Not much happening there.
It's always risky when MC is already in a relationship. Now I don't want to break Samantha's heart because I have hots for Sarah.

Fingers crossed that it will get better.
Anyway, that's just my opinion. Good luck for the dev if they read this.

 

[Blackheartz_]

So MC bang mom-sis yet?

if thats all your looking for you may end up dissapointed. sometimes story driven NSFW games deserve more then just "did the MC fuck his family yet?" smh

 

[Blackheartz_]

You know it's bad when the Dev doesn't advertise how much renders are included in their updates, I'm guessing it's relatively small?

its actually really good if you enjoy story over sex sex sex and more sex

 

[Blackheartz_]

so it's clear that I'm going to skip this game, no incest which is fine but watching the sister have sex with other people but not the MC is bullshit.

adios. your loss missing out on such good story potential.

 

[Grimm0ne]

it hits home as I lost my mother to Cancer a few years ago but so far I'm liking it (as some don't, to each their own) but the surprise visit from a fav char from Leap of Faith so yeah... on board ftm.

 

[FatGiant]

is there a walkthrought to this game or do i even need it

So far there is no need. Not exactly a Kinetic Novel, but very few choices and none that would impact the game meaningfully.

Also, thanks for a normal and very simple comment in this House of Drama that could be easily confused with a Game thread.

Peace

 

[FatGiant]

To no one in particular. If you feel attacked maybe re-examine your posts. I am NOT addressing anyone, just the whole thread.

You are all aware that there is a Moderation team that from time to time visits threads with high post count per day? That most of what is being said here is above and beyond of what is permitted? Ok. If you didn't know, now you do.

All your opinions, positions and overall stances have been said, expressed, explained, reiterated, etc... Back and forth. Front and Back. It is DONE.

The Dev isn't even here (yes we are all aware that he either reads the thread or whatever) that means that we are all barking at each other, making a lot of noise and achieving... well... nothing, really.

Here's an idea, go to an unmoderated part of the forum, open a "Complaining Thread for Beyond Tomorrow" and bark to each other there.

This thread is about what IS IN THE GAME. Not what you wished it was, not what you wanted it to have, not about you want to shag but can't. Take this to an off-topic thread somewhere, maybe someone will even put a link to it in the OP.

Why? Well, because it is polluting the thread with a topic that is clearly marked as NOT in the game by the Dev. Doesn't matter how much you think it would fit. Not going to happen. So, move on. Or, go complain somewhere where people with questions about what is in the game can come and comment and be read and answered if needed.

Peace

 

[Astrocreep137]

JFC is this shit about the sister not being available as an incest prospect STILL going on?! The justification being that she's "too hot to waste,"?! I'm going to requote myself in this thread on a post from early September when drama queens cried about this very same thing.

FXFTF said:


The developer constantly teasing you with his sister, then says that we don't have the incest tag! What the fuck! So why do you teasing us?

Because it is quite possible, in the realm of AVN's to have an attractive sister in a game that, OMG, that has no incest! What a novel concept! Like, it could almost happen in real life!?!

This very same shit is going on in the thread for Elite Gardens, another AVN with a hot sister where there's no incest. Not every game has to have incest. Just because the sister is hot does not mean the the developer MUST make that the character available as an incest option. What kind of lunacy dictates that?

The author chooses the direction of their story and how the characters interact, not you. You're not the writer, you're not the developer. You want incest with a hot sister? Write your own shit and do it. Problem solved.

So far, the developer is telling a realistic story. This story (at the time I made this original post on 9/7/2023) was still specifically saying that Olivia will NOT be a love interest because she is the MC's sister. Perfectly a realistic view point that there was no incest that was going to take place. I'm not sure why people can't accept that? If the developer has caved due to the incest posse pressuring him over this decision, I feel bad for him and it explains why he left here amongst the other clownery going on in this thread. We lost the interactions here with the developer because some people feel the need to dictate the story based on their wants. That's pretty fucking sad that it came to that. The fact that people here feel it is O.K. to act like entitled assholes causes us to lose a communication platform with the developer. It's a loss for all of us so thanks for that. Again it's not your story to tell. Go tell your own story.

 

[Joi_fan]

I'm finding the story way too depressing for a porn game, I like slow burn games so I'm not looking for sex from the get go, but I'm also not looking for this kind of a heavy theme.

I only played up to the point where the mc visit his mother at the hospital and I couldn't continue anymore. The game started with a girl crying in a tub, then the mc drop college for money reasons, the doctor gave some shitty news and on top of that we see the mother like that.

I get that this is a much more of a realist setting than the mc fucking his whole family, but man, is just super sad for the 5-10 minutes that I played.

I wish the dev best of luck, but unfortunate this game is not for me as of now. Maybe I can try again in the future if someone say that the story gets a little more light hearted.