VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.2] [Dream Games]

[yossa999]

Doesn't it go against your character to say that you will continue to add scenes that you admitted you added to the game as a one-off because someone liked the gay scenes?


I am referring to the so-called ignoring of people who wanted Olivia to be LI enough to offer 3-4 thousand dollars.

Isn't he being hypocritical here?
Yes, he definitely cares more about the fictional characters in the game than real money...

I read this quote to mean that he is going to make his game the way he thinks is right, regardless of the people who don't like it. And he thinks there are a lot of people who agree with his vision.
How did you come to the conclusion from this quote, that he made the scene in favor of those who like lesbian scenes is a mystery to me. I think you misread this.

I know someone who completely rewrote the game to make more money and turned it into an ntr story...

Cool, tell me more.

And then there are some people here who think they are elite...
I'm afraid I'll get caught in a shitstorm if I'm any more honest about it.

I'm sorry you're feeling bad, bro, and worried about some people who think they're elitists...
I can only share my experience. I'm here on this site to have fun, talk about topics that interest me, and communicate with people I like. If someone annoys me, I put them to ignore list. If some topics are not interesting or unpleasant to me, I ignore them. I don't know about you, but this works for me.

I really don't understand what some people here are trying to do, how much more open can the developer be. You are doing nothing but giving people the wrong idea and disappointing them.

I'm not sure if I follow. But if this anonymous quote is from me, then yes, I think Olivia will never become a LI. It's what I read from the Dev many times. Although I usually never say "never", because “the future is not ours to see.” Maybe he'll give this game to another dev who will make her a LI, or wake up in the morning and say: "Damn, the guys from f95 were right! Dylan, Olivia, come here, I have a job for you." So if I wrote never, please disregard it, it's "probably never."

Note: I don't care about incest games, I've never patched any of my games about it. I don't like it, frankly.
He is just a drama queen please stop using a side account.

What? I don't hide my account details, you can see for yourself, I was using it long before this topic came up. And I don't use any side accounts. I think you can create a ticket and ask the moderators to check if my account and someone else's account are linked. If this bothers you, of course.

 

[Kassandara]

He is just a drama queen please stop using a side account.

17 of the total 18 comments are about this game hmmm interesting...
The opening date of the account is just as interesting...is it a coincidence that it coincides with the date when the developer deleted his account?

Is Dream in the room with us right now?

 

[WerewolfSinX]

Well this is a surprise, I come into a thread and see a shit storm not because of a 3 letter word, but because someone isn't romance option. Props to the dev for sticking to his vision, I might even support dream, simply because he seems like a guy that will stick to his vision no matter what, which is rare for AVN.

 

[Xrisoner]

So MC bang mom-sis yet?

 

[xXwankerXx]

I’m really do hope that for once we can have a “mother and sister” exist with no incest. How hard is it to write a relationship like that, normal family relationships?

Don't know, but it's probably just as hard as it is for you to accept other ppl's tastes and preferences and enjoy playing the game or move on, cuz the stuff you like, others don't, and vice-versa. It's that simple. Btw, I'm one of the peeps who'd usually agree with this statement of yours, BUT I sure asf don't want to see a hot AF mom getting her fuck on with a bunch of randos than fucking the MC, since she shows him preferential treatment you could speculate she loves him more. AND his sister used to be attracted to him, according to what Sam said, so it makes sense for ppl to expect to get naughty scenes with the MC and them.

What's the point in making an attractive mom if she ain't romanceable or even fuckable ??None. Ppl will complain cuz it's a damn porn game, harmless fiction. Stop judging others and just ignore their posts, them, or the games they like altogether if they get on your nerves so much, cuz I don't think your preferences are that much better than theirs.

The developer said you definitely can't fuck her.
He even asked if the tag female protagonist was necessary for Olivia's future sexcapades.

Yep, and when people pointed out how retarded that was he threw a hissy fit and deleted his account lmao

Damn. And he deleted his account after he gave ppl the wrong idea about her and the MC cuz he couldn't act like a man and take responsibility for his own actions. Nice.

I knew some devs have at least one or two perfectly good reasons to delete their accounts, but in this case, it sounds completely ridiculous. The guy made her, her lesbian ex and the mom the most attractive women in the game and gets pissy when ppl give him shit for making them unfuckable by the MC, while he only gets a bunch of leftovers and a damn wheelchair girl. Great. What's next ?? Olivia and Sam elope and the MC settles down with his boi, Martin ?? Or does he also gets his piece of the cake without MC knowing about it ??

 

[TheMarquis]

What I don't understand (and, luckily, some developers have managed to understand it), is why, even though we are now all aware of how some things annoy a certain range of users, the developers don't put a simple warning before a scene, like :"this is about to happen, do you want to see it?".

This way the developer makes the story go as he wants and the user has the option of not seeing. There will always be someone who complains because of the story but they would certainly be a small minority.

 

[Big Smurf]

Started to look at the game for the first time today and I'm running into an issue.
When MC is with mom at the hospital and it shows the grey flashback from mom and dad, my GPU jumps at 100% and the animation starts to stutter. Can't be the GPU, it's a renpy thing. System win 10 64, 32GB mem, GPU Nvidia 3060 12GB. Tried to play with the rendering settings in renpy but nothing working. Stopped playing the game at that point.

 

[xXwankerXx]

So, if the MC can't have them, no one else can?

Honestly, yeah. There's nothing constructive about those scenes. This IS NOT a fem.prot game, according the dev's statement on Patreon, even if Olivia's interaction and sex scene with Sasha in this update may suggest the opposite, and thank fuck it's not an NTR game either, so her fucking other women is pointless, IMHO.

I think it's really weird to mention in the script that she used to have a crush on the MC and wanted to be his GF too when they were younger and then tell us she isn't an LI, nor will the MC ever fuck her. I don't mind her having a BF, or a GF, or even her own damn male harem, but I don't give a shit about pointless lesbian scenes, cuz they're a waste of time and resources, if the MC won't get involved with the two women. Same goes for pointless sex scenes in non NTR games that don't involve the MC.

Did you even play the game or did you just come to take a shit in the comments?

No, I only used my psychic powers to deduce shit, but did YOU actually see what she looked like when she was younger ?? Or when she slapped that unfuckable-by-the-MC spoiled bitch, Olivia, in the flashback scene ?? Is any other woman in the whole game, except for Sam, more attractive than her to you ?? I won't blame you if you say there is/are, cuz that's your opinion, and mine is that the female characters I mentioned there are the most attractive ones. Have any problem with that ??

What I don't understand (and, luckily, some developers have managed to understand it), is why, even though we are now all aware of how some things annoy a certain range of users, the developers don't put a simple warning before a scene, like :"this is about to happen, do you want to see it?".

Devs could spare themselves a lot of pointless headaches if they were honest and transparent about all the stuff they want in their stories, a warning would also be good, but I think honesty and professionalism are better options. That way, nobody could pretend they're surprised this or that happened or they saw scenes they didn't expect to see in the story. But instead, they crawl back to their caves, delete their accounts and act like spoiled, pissy princesses cuz they can't handle criticism for their own mistakes.

 

[Den1mo]

o, I only used my psychic powers to deduce shit, but did YOU actually see what she looked like when she was younger ?? Or when she slapped that unfuckable-by-the-MC spoiled bitch, Olivia, in the flashback scene ?? Is any other woman in the whole game, except for Sam, more attractive than her to you ?? I won't blame you if you say there is/are, cuz that's your opinion, and mine is that the female characters I mentioned there are the most attractive ones. Have any problem with that ??

What you write has absolutely no point

"What's the point in making an attractive mom if she's not romanceable or even fuckable" - your words

Did you understand that the character is dying of cancer and is in the hospital? Or do you expect the story to go back in time and show scenes in which the MC bangs his sick mother? Because as shown in the hospital scenes it's a presence. If you want something like that with a character like Lily despite the circumstances we know - you're sick

 

[FatGiant]

Honestly, yeah. There's nothing constructive about those scenes.

Well, I don't usually resort to say this, but, "That is, like, your opinion, isn't it?".

Let's be serious. You and a few others are rebelling against the Dev decision to NOT include Incest. It is nothing else. You feel left out because you are shown 2 (or 3) beautifully crafted characters that are simply OUT of your reach and you guys can't stand it.

I can understand the frustration. I can understand that you'd love to jump them.

What I can't understand is the vitriol with which you treat the Dev, simply because he stands by his vision and NOT yours.

I know that this is a common place, but it is truly the only option you guys have, you don't like that the game doesn't have the content you DEMAND, just leave it be and go find something you enjoy.

I honestly think that you all need to see someone about that, it's getting out of control.

Peace

 

[DarkSithLord47]

Fucking serves me right to play a game before reading the comments, only good thing about it are the renders,story is way to fucking real and depressing,hidden NTR ( cause the hottest character in the game may or may not be the mc's sister and may or may not be a LI and showing an unavoidable scene where she fucks with another girl) Good job dev... Edit : and also the lagging animations from hell ,like seriously who's pc handeled those cause mine sure didnt)

 

[FatGiant]

Fucking serves me right to play a game before reading the comments, only good thing about it are the renders,story is way to fucking real and depressing,hidden NTR ( cause the hottest character in the game may or may not be the mc's sister and may or may not be a LI and showing an unavoidable scene where she fucks with another girl) Good job dev... Edit : and also the lagging animations from hell ,like seriously who's pc handeled those cause mine sure didnt)

So, in this parallel alternate reality you comment from, NTR is now the equivalent of "Anything that I don't like".

Thanks. It's very interesting to my inner anthropologist to learn things about other "cultures". Understanding their myths and their fear system.

Should I dispel some of those myths or is it undue interference on a primitive culture to do so? In other words, should I infringe on the Prime Directive (if you even know what it is) ?

Peace

 

[yossa999]

Man, I can't figure out if you're having fun or seriously making a point?
Do you realize that this perfectly works in both ways?

What's the point in making an attractive mom if she ain't romanceable or even fuckable ??None.

Why not? Does the MC's mom in the game without incest have to be fucking ugly? Have you ever thought about "ugly" kink fans and their needs? They have the same right to be upset that the mother who perfectly suits their tastes is unfuckable.

Ppl will complain cuz it's a damn porn game, harmless fiction. Stop judging others and just ignore their posts, them, or the games they like altogether if they get on your nerves so much, cuz I don't think your preferences are that much better than theirs.

Devs getting upset cuz it's a damn porn game, harmless fiction. Stop judging devs and just ignore their posts, them, or the games they create altogether if they get on your nerves so much, cuz I don't think your preferences are that much better than their content.

Damn. And he deleted his account after he gave ppl the wrong idea about her and the MC cuz he couldn't act like a man and take responsibility for his own actions. Nice.

He deleted his account after ppl believed their own misconceptions about the game, plot and characters, and began expressing their disappointment through the death threats and curses against the developer and his family. Not nice.

I knew some devs have at least one or two perfectly good reasons to delete their accounts, but in this case, it sounds completely ridiculous. The guy made her, her lesbian ex and the mom the most attractive women in the game and gets pissy when ppl give him shit for making them unfuckable by the MC, while he only gets a bunch of leftovers and a damn wheelchair girl. Great.

He became angry when people started wishing very unpleasant things to him and his family. Before this, he simply ignored those who demanded him to be their pet monkey and make his game the way they want.

What's next ?? Olivia and Sam elope and the MC settles down with his boi, Martin ?? Or does he also gets his piece of the cake without MC knowing about it ??

What's next? The return of the futa who almost had an affair with Martin and was replaced by that lady with strapon. And the option to skip all those scenes of character self-reflection and depressing dialogue that take up most of the screen time. It's a damn porn game (story-based games with porn elements are disgusting fantasies of some real weirdos), so give us a porny plot, right? This is the only way this dev will be able to beg the forgiveness of the noble public.

 

[Bnshy]

The game has a good story behind it..
I'm just wondering, when will we be able to make decisions?.
Sam is okay, but I want to explore other possibilities.

 

[Bad Wolf]

So, in this parallel alternate reality you comment from, NTR is now the equivalent of "Anything that I don't like".

Thanks. It's very interesting to my inner anthropologist to learn things about other "cultures". Understanding their myths and their fear system.

Should I dispel some of those myths or is it undue interference on a primitive culture to do so? In other words, should I infringe on the Prime Directive (if you even know what it is) ?

Peace

Not sure my Cro-Magnon brain could handle you dispelling anything. Just point me to the skip key for that scene, nod and smile. I'll be good to go.

 

[lukas7533]

I mean this is full on depression the entire time, I like it, but I guess its not for everyone. What I really dont like like is the lenght. I literally went through both chapters combined in less than 90 minutes. Like I get that this kind of quality takes time but uhh, maybe release 4 thousand renders at once instead of releasing like 45 minutes of content after 6 months of development.

And I know that kind of talk isnt exactly welcomed by devs but, at this point this really feels more like a proof of concept. Almost no decisions, just a peek at potential LIs. If I would go and sum up the story up until this point its that quite literally nothing happened. Consider me quite dissapointed, given by the amount of praise I read about this.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Did you understand that the character is dying of cancer and is in the hospital? Or do you expect the story to go back in time and show scenes in which the MC bangs his sick mother? Because as shown in the hospital scenes it's a presence.

Nope. It's not like there were only a few hundreds of hints and even plain obviously stated... must've somehow missed ALL the conversations the characters had about that. Joke aside, I personally think all the stuff with the mom's sickness is a lil exaggerated for a porn game and would've preferred she collapsed from working herself too hard to support her kids or something like that. It's why I said her beauty prior to her sickness (duhhh!!) was wasted.

I know the story was a real tearjerker from the get-go, but shit's exaggerated in some cases like the mom's, IMO. It reminds me a lot of Three Rules of Life and its shitty exaggerated, sometimes, pointless drama, even if this game is, thankfully, waaay better written, and you can check how many ppl have complained about that one becoming cringe with all the drama after the dev went too far with it. Hopefully, the same won't happen here too, but it's a possibility. Every character in this story is dealing with their own share of personal problems, which leaves less room for character development, build up with the LIs and all that stuff, and in some cases, this much heavy stuff can become a minus rather than a plus, as you can see

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If you want something like that with a character like Lily despite the circumstances we know - you're sick

Really now ?? Then can you elaborate why she can't be called attractive in the flashback scenes ?? And I thought it was obvious I didn't mention her in the present, but apparently, not to everybody.

 

[Kassandara]

maybe release 4 thousand renders at once instead of releasing like 45 minutes of content after 6 months of development.

And then there would be other people complaining that "why only 1 update per year".

You can always opt to wait for more updates and then play it

 

[Xeron_Xr]

Just played the ch2 and it amazing kudos to the dev for his work. This game is definitely is worth a try.
was also surprised the cameo

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[Den1mo]

I personally think all the stuff with the mom's sickness is a lil exaggerated for a porn game

Nope. It's not like there were only a few hundreds of hints and even plain obviously stated... must've somehow missed ALL the conversations the characters had about that. Joke aside, I personally think all the stuff with the mom's sickness is a lil exaggerated for a porn game and would've preferred she collapsed from working herself too hard to support her kids or something like that. It's why I said her beauty prior to her sickness (duhhh!!) was wasted.

I know the story was a real tearjerker from the get-go, but shit's exaggerated in some cases like the mom's, IMO. It reminds me a lot of Three Rules of Life and its shitty exaggerated, sometimes, pointless drama, even if this game is, thankfully, waaay better written, and you can check how many ppl have complained about that one becoming cringe with all the drama after the dev went too far with it. Hopefully, the same won't happen here too, but it's a possibility. Every character in this story is dealing with their own share of personal problems, which leaves less room for character development, build up with the LIs and all that stuff, and in some cases, this much heavy stuff can become a minus rather than a plus, as you can see

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Really now ?? Then can you elaborate why she can't be called attractive in the flashback scenes ?? And I thought it was obvious I didn't mention her in the present, but apparently, not to everybody.

Release of chapter 1:

40 patrons, 150 players on discord server

5 months gap

Release of chapter 2:

80 patrons, 300 players on discord server

And just between us... Such things are really only watched by sick people. I'm glad you confirmed it