VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.1] [Dream Games]

[FatGiant]

To no one in particular. If you feel attacked maybe re-examine your posts. I am NOT addressing anyone, just the whole thread.

You are all aware that there is a Moderation team that from time to time visits threads with high post count per day? That most of what is being said here is above and beyond of what is permitted? Ok. If you didn't know, now you do.

All your opinions, positions and overall stances have been said, expressed, explained, reiterated, etc... Back and forth. Front and Back. It is DONE.

The Dev isn't even here (yes we are all aware that he either reads the thread or whatever) that means that we are all barking at each other, making a lot of noise and achieving... well... nothing, really.

Here's an idea, go to an unmoderated part of the forum, open a "Complaining Thread for Beyond Tomorrow" and bark to each other there.

This thread is about what IS IN THE GAME. Not what you wished it was, not what you wanted it to have, not about you want to shag but can't. Take this to an off-topic thread somewhere, maybe someone will even put a link to it in the OP.

Why? Well, because it is polluting the thread with a topic that is clearly marked as NOT in the game by the Dev. Doesn't matter how much you think it would fit. Not going to happen. So, move on. Or, go complain somewhere where people with questions about what is in the game can come and comment and be read and answered if needed.

Peace

 

[Astrocreep137]

JFC is this shit about the sister not being available as an incest prospect STILL going on?! The justification being that she's "too hot to waste,"?! I'm going to requote myself in this thread on a post from early September when drama queens cried about this very same thing.

FXFTF said:


The developer constantly teasing you with his sister, then says that we don't have the incest tag! What the fuck! So why do you teasing us?

Because it is quite possible, in the realm of AVN's to have an attractive sister in a game that, OMG, that has no incest! What a novel concept! Like, it could almost happen in real life!?!

This very same shit is going on in the thread for Elite Gardens, another AVN with a hot sister where there's no incest. Not every game has to have incest. Just because the sister is hot does not mean the the developer MUST make that the character available as an incest option. What kind of lunacy dictates that?

The author chooses the direction of their story and how the characters interact, not you. You're not the writer, you're not the developer. You want incest with a hot sister? Write your own shit and do it. Problem solved.

So far, the developer is telling a realistic story. This story (at the time I made this original post on 9/7/2023) was still specifically saying that Olivia will NOT be a love interest because she is the MC's sister. Perfectly a realistic view point that there was no incest that was going to take place. I'm not sure why people can't accept that? If the developer has caved due to the incest posse pressuring him over this decision, I feel bad for him and it explains why he left here amongst the other clownery going on in this thread. We lost the interactions here with the developer because some people feel the need to dictate the story based on their wants. That's pretty fucking sad that it came to that. The fact that people here feel it is O.K. to act like entitled assholes causes us to lose a communication platform with the developer. It's a loss for all of us so thanks for that. Again it's not your story to tell. Go tell your own story.

 

[Joi_fan]

I'm finding the story way too depressing for a porn game, I like slow burn games so I'm not looking for sex from the get go, but I'm also not looking for this kind of a heavy theme.

I only played up to the point where the mc visit his mother at the hospital and I couldn't continue anymore. The game started with a girl crying in a tub, then the mc drop college for money reasons, the doctor gave some shitty news and on top of that we see the mother like that.

I get that this is a much more of a realist setting than the mc fucking his whole family, but man, is just super sad for the 5-10 minutes that I played.

I wish the dev best of luck, but unfortunate this game is not for me as of now. Maybe I can try again in the future if someone say that the story gets a little more light hearted.

 

[Blackheartz_]

I'm finding the story way too depressing for a porn game, I like slow burn games so I'm not looking for sex from the get go, but I'm also not looking for this kind of a heavy theme.

I only played up to the point where the mc visit his mother at the hospital and I couldn't continue anymore. The game started with a girl crying in a tub, then the mc drop college for money reasons, the doctor gave some shitty news and on top of that we see the mother like that.

I get that this is a much more of a realist setting than the mc fucking his whole family, but man, is just super sad for the 5-10 minutes that I played.

I wish the dev best of luck, but unfortunate this game is not for me as of now. Maybe I can try again in the future if someone say that the story gets a little more light hearted.

not everything is for everyone but this right here is why this game and story is such top tier, if it wasn't it wouldn't of effected people this way, if you can get emotional over a game that means the developer is doing it right. Not every great story needs rainbows and puppies. This game really gives me the feels of DriftyGames Leap of Faith.

 

[big_hawg]

Anyone else have some studders in the animations? And no its not my pc.

 

[TheMarquis]

Anyone else have some studders in the animations? And no its not my pc.

Yes, it's a known issue.

 

[yossa999]

not everything is for everyone but this right here is why this game and story is such top tier, if it wasn't it wouldn't of effected people this way, if you can get emotional over a game that means the developer is doing it right. Not every great story needs rainbows and puppies. This game really gives me the feels of DriftyGames Leap of Faith.

I agree with you, except for the last sentence. Despite all the dramatic moments and even the rather tragic storyline of the character, who had a cameo in this game, LoF in general brings joyful and happy vibes. Most of the characters there had a bitter past, but they strive for the better, help each other in this and are determined to enjoy life and seek happiness.

Beyond Tomorrow is much darker, we see the entire MC family at the lowest point of their lives. With the exception of short funny or amusing scenes, the entire atmosphere of the game, thoughts, dialogues and memories of the characters are quite gloomy and depressing. And vague hints at events and secrets of the past leave the impression that even more drama lies ahead.

 

[Blackheartz_]

I agree with you, except for the last sentence. Despite all the dramatic moments and even the rather tragic storyline of the character, who had a cameo in this game, LoF in general brings joyful and happy vibes. Most of the characters there had a bitter past, but they strive for the better, help each other in this and are determined to enjoy life and seek happiness.

Beyond Tomorrow is much darker, we see the entire MC family at the lowest point of their lives. With the exception of short funny or amusing scenes, the entire atmosphere of the game, thoughts, dialogues and memories of the characters are quite gloomy and depressing. And vague hints at events and secrets of the past leave the impression that even more drama lies ahead.

well def didnt mean its exactly like LoF i just meant the depressing parts of this game reminded me of LoF. This is a completly different game for sure and the theme much darker, however i do believe we are building to some joyful moments in the future.

 

[Deleted member 3727657]

Now that MC's sister is MC herself, is she going to fuck many men? ( Like other family games with protagonist )

 

[Ragnar]

Now that MC's sister is MC herself, is she going to fuck many men? ( Like other family games with protagonist )

I hope so. Players here have been asking these days for more content with her.
You can't see it because moderation has deleted the most fervent comments on the topic.
So I hope Dream Games takes note and creates exclusive routes for her with plenty of futa and whatnot.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Bruh, am I glad the mods finally stepped in and purged some posts here that desperately needed to be purged. Back on topic, I find it hilarious how vicious some naysayers still defend the dev's obvious mistakes when it's implied in the story that Olivia could be MC's half-sister. It would explain why a random guy they don't know paid for her college tuition and why Lily's husband suddenly acted like an insane idiot and beat her up that badly. I suspect the same thing that happened in Chasing Sunsets on the stepcest front could be happening here as well, cuz as much as I hope she survives, the mom's condition is in a very delicate state, and without a mom character, there's no incest or stepcest, but let's forget about this lil fact so we won't get into heated debates again.

Now that MC's sister is MC herself, is she going to fuck many men? ( Like other family games with protagonist )

Probably yeah. I don't know. Maybe if there will be demand for that. Isn't a potential half-sister becoming the town's bicycle and speed dial cumdump more 'realistic' than her lusting after her decent-looking (half)brother, who happens to be a decent guy too ??

I'm finding the story way too depressing for a porn game, I like slow burn games so I'm not looking for sex from the get go, but I'm also not looking for this kind of a heavy theme.

I only played up to the point where the mc visit his mother at the hospital and I couldn't continue anymore.

It's understandable why, and it's why I said all this exaggerated amount of drama reminds me of Three Rules of Life. I forced myself to play the update till the end, but shit, I wish there was an option to Rock Bottom that stupid bitch, Olivia, like The Rock used to do in WWE, for what she said to her mom. For real now, this bitch claimed she was an adult while she acted like the most idiotic, spoiled damn brat ever, and only afterward she figured out how stupid she really was. We all made mistakes as teenagers, there's no doubt about that, but a person claiming to be a responsible adult should think at least thrice about the things that are about to come out of their mouth, since they're supposedly sooo responsible and mature.

I noticed how much ppl focus on her and not so many wonder how the MC made enough money to pay for her tuition and to cover his mom's hospital bill and his living expenses. It shouldn't come as a surprise if he got himself involved with some shady ppl or joined a gang to make a quick buck, which means there's gonna be a hell of a lot more drama on the menu in the next updates.

So I hope Dream Games takes note and creates exclusive routes for her with plenty of futa and whatnot.

Realism at its best. Add a lot of ugly ass fat bastards, and it can't get any realer than this. I'll pretend you joking about that, cuz this 'realism' argument that's so popular 'round here and your lil wet dream don't belong in the same sentence... it does make for a good joke tho.

 

[Ragnar]

Bruh, am I glad the mods finally stepped in and purged some posts here that desperately needed to be purged. Back on topic, I find it hilarious how vicious some naysayers still defend the dev's obvious mistakes when it's implied in the story that Olivia could be MC's half-sister. It would explain why a random guy they don't know paid for her college tuition and why Lily's husband suddenly acted like an insane idiot and beat her up that badly. I suspect the same thing that happened in Chasing Sunsets on the stepcest front could be happening here as well, cuz as much as I hope she survives, the mom's condition is in a very delicate state, and without a mom character, there's no incest or stepcest, but let's forget about this lil fact so we won't get into heated debates again.



Probably yeah. I don't know. Maybe if there will be demand for that. Isn't a potential half-sister becoming the town's bicycle and speed dial cumdump more 'realistic' than her lusting after her decent-looking (half)brother, who happens to be a decent guy too ??



It's understandable why, and it's why I said all this exaggerated amount of drama reminds me of Three Rules of Life. I forced myself to play the update till the end, but shit, I wish there was an option to Rock Bottom that stupid bitch, Olivia, like The Rock used to do in WWE, for what she said to her mom. For real now, this bitch claimed she was an adult while she acted like the most idiotic, spoiled damn brat ever, and only afterward she figured out how stupid she really was. We all made mistakes as teenagers, there's no doubt about that, but a person claiming to be a responsible adult should think at least thrice about the things that are about to come out of their mouth, since they're supposedly sooo responsible and mature.

I noticed how much ppl focus on her and not so many wonder how the MC made enough money to pay for her tuition and to cover his mom's hospital bill and his living expenses. It shouldn't come as a surprise if he got himself involved with some shady ppl or joined a gang to make a quick buck, which means there's gonna be a hell of a lot more drama on the menu in the next updates.



Realism at its best. Add a lot of ugly ass fat bastards, and it can't get any realer than this. I'll pretend you joking about that, cuz this 'realism' argument that's so popular around here and your lil wet dream don't belong in the same sentence... it does make for a good joke tho.

Nah, I don't see her riding the cock carousel, she doesn't act like that type of girl. Having a relationship with whoever she chooses? Why not?
In any case I'm fine with whatever the dev writes for her and other characters. I want to read Dream's story not some crybabies' fanfiction.
There are too many spineless devs around catering to the obnoxious vocal minority and their alt accounts already.

 

[Joshy92]

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So, an account made just to hate on a singular game, fascinating lifestyle

They should just hate everyone and everything like a normal person

 

[Maevos]

Lily talks about shame but doesn't give full disclosure of the past to the MC. According to her, Brian wanted her to get an abortion, lost his job, became an alcoholic and ended up almost beating her to death which put him in jail.

18 years later an unknown male pays Olivia's college tuition fees for a full year. We know that Olivia is definitely Lily's daughter but should we start questioning who the real father is? Could Lily have cheated or been raped? Or maybe Brian got out of jail, changed his name, somehow made money as an ex-convict and paid for her college or got somebody else to pay for it.

Adoption already exists as a theme in the story (Sarah) so it wouldn't be outlandish if MC and Olivia didn't share the same father. It's a lot of drama though and I feel like it's all being piled on her.

 

[korochan48]

It feels likes to me Olivia is the more suitable mc cause the mc already setup in life. Mc mature enough, got already a loving gf and mc money problem solved already so not much for character build up. Olivia on the other hand got a lot of needs to build up she is immature, got problem with Sasha needs to resolve and possible that she is have different father so a lot of things could happen to her.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Lily talks about shame but doesn't give full disclosure of the past to the MC.

18 years later an unknown male pays Olivia's college tuition fees for a full year. We know that Olivia is definitely Lily's daughter but should we start questioning who the real father is? Could Lily have cheated or been raped?

It's a lot of drama though and I feel like it's all being piled on her.

Well, if it's what some of us here suspect, it's perfectly understandable why she'd feel both ashamed and guilty for what happened. I still think she had an affair with the guy who paid for Olivia's tuition, got herself knocked up, and tried to hide it from her husband by pretending it's his. Can't explain why her, of all ppl, would be ok with having an abusive dickhead's children, and worse, allowing him to be present in their lives, if he really was that mentally unstable. We'll just have to wait and find out in the next updates, but I sincerely hope we won't be forced to forgive that piece of shit for what he's done.

Or maybe Brian got out of jail, changed his name, somehow made money as an ex-convict and paid for her college or got somebody else to pay for it.

Nah, it's almost impossible for ex-cons to make that much money legally. Even if he did change his name and pay for her tuition, it doesn't explain why he'd hurt his wife that badly, and nobody would lend their friends a lot of money if they knew said 'friends' struggled financially. If this isn't an option, you'd have to be completely insane to ask a loan shark for money.

There's no amount of excuses or bullshit on this planet the dev can use to justify something as fucked up as that, IMO. I understand being pissed at your woman and arguing with her over this whole "being jobless" thing, but it's a very big ass difference between slapping her once blaming her for his own stupidity and impotence and almost killing the mother of his children leaving them orphaned just cuz he acted like an incompetent idiot and not like an actual mature, responsible man and father would've done in his place.

I sincerely hope we'll get to choose how the MC reacts to him IF he'll ever pop up in their lives again, cuz scum like that never deserve a second chance.

 

[Maevos]

Well, if it's what some of us here suspect, it's perfectly understandable why she'd feel both ashamed and guilty for what happened. I still think she had an affair with the guy who paid for Olivia's tuition, got herself knocked up, and tried to hide it from her husband by pretending it's his. Can't explain why her, of all ppl, would be ok with having an abusive dickhead's children, and worse, allowing him to be present in their lives, if he really was that mentally unstable. We'll just have to wait and find out in the next updates, but I sincerely hope we won't be forced to forgive that piece of shit for what he's done.



Nah, it's almost impossible for ex-cons to make that much money legally. Even if he did change his name and pay for her tuition, it doesn't explain why he'd hurt his wife that badly, and nobody would lend their friends a lot of money if they knew said 'friends' struggled financially. If this isn't an option, you'd have to be completely insane to ask a loan shark for money.

There's no amount of excuses or bullshit on this planet the dev can use to justify something as fucked up as that, IMO. I understand being pissed at your woman and arguing with her over this whole "being jobless" thing, but it's a very big ass difference between slapping her once blaming her for his own stupidity and impotence and almost killing the mother of his children leaving them orphaned just cuz he acted like an incompetent idiot and not like an actual mature, responsible man and father would've done in his place.

I sincerely hope we'll get to choose how the MC reacts to him IF he'll ever pop up in their lives again, cuz scum like that never deserve a second chance.

I think there is more to it that we don't know about at this point. Anything I say will be pure assumption now so I'll wait and see but I'm not sure I like where the story is going if those assumptions are correct.

There are also other things to consider. Dylan (MC) has a lot of tattoos and they are not cheap. Judging by how responsible he is, I doubt he would have used Lily's money to pay for them. We know that he has a job but we don't know what it is, though he must be making good money. Any savings Lily had must have gone to her cancer treatment, so Dylan is paying for their day-to-day expenses and probably giving allowance to Olivia too.

Now that there is hope for Lily, they are going to need more money to pay for it. Money that Dylan will have to earn and he is going to get entangled with either Brian himself, Brian's old friends or the guy who paid for Olivia's college.

The appearance of Cece in the game and her hugging Lily is most likely a foreshadowing of Lily's survival too. Because Cece herself is a survivor and a symbol of hope. And maybe Dylan's actions in the game will also have a role in that.

 

[Den1mo]

I think there is more to it that we don't know about at this point. Anything I say will be pure assumption now so I'll wait and see but I'm not sure I like where the story is going if those assumptions are correct.

There are also other things to consider. Dylan (MC) has a lot of tattoos and they are not cheap. Judging by how responsible he is, I doubt he would have used Lily's money to pay for them. We know that he has a job but we don't know what it is, though he must be making good money. Any savings Lily had must have gone to her cancer treatment, so Dylan is paying for their day-to-day expenses and probably giving allowance to Olivia too.

Now that there is hope for Lily, they are going to need more money to pay for it. Money that Dylan will have to earn and he is going to get entangled with either Brian himself, Brian's old friends or the guy who paid for Olivia's college.

The appearance of Cece in the game and her hugging Lily is most likely a foreshadowing of Lily's survival too. Because Cece herself is a survivor and a symbol of hope. And maybe Dylan's actions in the game will also have a role in that.

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But that's just me, he said he didn't want to spoil anything

 

[xXwankerXx]

Anything I say will be pure assumption now so I'll wait and see but I'm not sure I like where the story is going if those assumptions are correct.

Making speculations is the only thing we can do with all the plot we have so far, which can only mean the game's good enough for ppl to care about its story, come up with their own theories about what's gonna happen in the next updates and keep being invested in the game. Good or bad, the dev's decisions will be praised or criticized by his fans and subscribers, and it's up to him if he wants to listen to them or not. Can't do anything about that.

I have my fair share of complaints about the game, but I can't deny the fact that the dev did a damn good job with this story. As long as choices really matter in having an influence on how the story unfolds and nothing, scenes, characters, or certain events, will be forced onto the player without them having the option to avoid it, things should be ok with almost everybody.

I'm already looking forward to playing the next chapter and seeing what'll happen next !!

 

[Aramintha]

If Olivia isn't a LI I don't really care about her relationship or the sex scenes with Sasha it just feels pointless wasted dev time that can be used to focus on girls who are going to be main LI and the MC and to be fair the dev not making Olivia a LI is just wasted potential hell after playing chapter 2 I almost thought Olivia was the protagonist every new update the game just becomes worse and worse.