VN Ren'Py Beyond Tomorrow [Ch.1] [Dream Games]

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yossa999

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When a dev forces a gf/wife at the start of a game, I rebel against it. So, more choices in women are great for me and then I start hoping for the choice to dump the forced gf/wife. But, I see other people's points about it also. Everyone has different tastes and that's a good thing.
most of the time I hate having a girlfriend /wife forced on me

and im monogamous

I prefer to start the game single and make my own choice

I'm hoping that as the game goes on we get to break up with the girlfriend so I can make my own choice that's why

I have not played the game yet
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Damn reaction limit (y)
I'm also not a big fan of plots where the MC has a girlfriend from the start.
But If the MC's girlfriend has to exist for the sake of the story, then I would appreciate the opportunity to break up with her.

And this is where I have a problem - Sam is too good. I don't see now a decent way for the MC to leave her.

If the decision to leave her comes from the MC, then he is kind of an insensitive bastard, because she loves him, she is loyal to him, cares about him, they have known each other forever. And suddenly the MC is like “Sam, I don’t need you anymore, get the fuck out.” Not cool.

If she breaks up with him, what's the reason? This was shown enough to figure out how much she loves and cares for him. And suddenly such a turn? Well, at least the MC will not have a reason for moral torment.

She dies in an accident (there was such a theory here). Damn, how much drama can you shove into one game before it breaks apart?

Whatever, it’s even more interesting what the author comes up with. Let's wait for the new chapter. If one special cameo girl will be available as LI, then sorry Sam, but I have no choice :ROFLMAO:
 

Dark Silence

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Damn reaction limit (y)
I'm also not a big fan of plots where the MC has a girlfriend from the start.
But If the MC's girlfriend has to exist for the sake of the story, then I would appreciate the opportunity to break up with her.

And this is where I have a problem - Sam is too good. I don't see now a decent way for the MC to leave her.

If the decision to leave her comes from the MC, then he is kind of an insensitive bastard, because she loves him, she is loyal to him, cares about him, they have known each other forever. And suddenly the MC is like “Sam, I don’t need you anymore, get the fuck out.” Not cool.

If she breaks up with him, what's the reason? This was shown enough to figure out how much she loves and cares for him. And suddenly such a turn? Well, at least the MC will not have a reason for moral torment.

She dies in an accident (there was such a theory here). Damn, how much drama can you shove into one game before it breaks apart?

Whatever, it’s even more interesting what the author comes up with. Let's wait for the new chapter. If one special cameo girl will be available as LI, then sorry Liv, but I have no choice :ROFLMAO:
Well, I haven't played yet and I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Doesn't matter how awesome she is, she's more than likely going to get the axe. Because the only girl I like in the OP screens is the girl in the wheelchair.
 

yossa999

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Well, I haven't played yet and I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Doesn't matter how awesome she is, she's more than likely going to get the axe. Because the only girl I like in the OP screens is the girl in the wheelchair.
(y)Yeah, it seems. And Jasmine is nice, definitely worth the playthrough.
 
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Damn reaction limit (y)
I'm also not a big fan of plots where the MC has a girlfriend from the start.
But If the MC's girlfriend has to exist for the sake of the story, then I would appreciate the opportunity to break up with her.

And this is where I have a problem - Sam is too good. I don't see now a decent way for the MC to leave her.

If the decision to leave her comes from the MC, then he is kind of an insensitive bastard, because she loves him, she is loyal to him, cares about him, they have known each other forever. And suddenly the MC is like “Sam, I don’t need you anymore, get the fuck out.” Not cool.

If she breaks up with him, what's the reason? This was shown enough to figure out how much she loves and cares for him. And suddenly such a turn? Well, at least the MC will not have a reason for moral torment.

She dies in an accident (there was such a theory here). Damn, how much drama can you shove into one game before it breaks apart?

Whatever, it’s even more interesting what the author comes up with. Let's wait for the new chapter. If one special cameo girl will be available as LI, then sorry Sam, but I have no choice :ROFLMAO:
like I said brother I have not played the update

but if I had to guess after the mom dies

the mc get seriously depressed and that's when he pushes everyone away and that's when they break up

or maybe he has to leave to find a job to take care of his family
 

matschbirne

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I also tried it yesterday and like Vidal I would like to decide for myself who I am with and that's why I stopped playing after a while.
The plot seems to be quite interesting so far, so I give the game another chance after a few udates and see how it develops.
 

Den1mo

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Damn reaction limit (y)
I'm also not a big fan of plots where the MC has a girlfriend from the start.
But If the MC's girlfriend has to exist for the sake of the story, then I would appreciate the opportunity to break up with her.

And this is where I have a problem - Sam is too good. I don't see now a decent way for the MC to leave her.

If the decision to leave her comes from the MC, then he is kind of an insensitive bastard, because she loves him, she is loyal to him, cares about him, they have known each other forever. And suddenly the MC is like “Sam, I don’t need you anymore, get the fuck out.” Not cool.

If she breaks up with him, what's the reason? This was shown enough to figure out how much she loves and cares for him. And suddenly such a turn? Well, at least the MC will not have a reason for moral torment.

She dies in an accident (there was such a theory here). Damn, how much drama can you shove into one game before it breaks apart?

Whatever, it’s even more interesting what the author comes up with. Let's wait for the new chapter. If one special cameo girl will be available as LI, then sorry Sam, but I have no choice :ROFLMAO:
Well... If at least one of you went to the dev server (now you won't have that chance anymore) and read some information about the characters, relationships or story you would know that Sam and MC are not in a relationship.

Their whole "relationship" is based on friendship from childhood which grew into something like "fuck buddy". They have always been very close, they feel something more for each other than friends usually do but they never agreed to a relationship. If something went wrong it would most likely destroy their friendship as well. They both remained open to "multiple possibilities" in their lives but thanks to the way their lives changed because of Lily, neither of them seemed to be "dedicating" to their private lives.
 
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Well... If at least one of you went to the dev server (now you won't have that chance anymore) and read some information about the characters, relationships or story you would know that Sam and MC are not in a relationship.

Their whole "relationship" is based on friendship from childhood which grew into something like "fuck buddy". They have always been very close, they feel something more for each other than friends usually do but they never agreed to a relationship. If something went wrong it would most likely destroy their friendship as well. They both remained open to "multiple possibilities" in their lives but thanks to the way their lives changed because of Lily, neither of them seemed to be "dedicating" to their private lives.
my brother that's even worse I hate friends with benefits\ fuck buddy
 

Den1mo

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Oh I didn't even realise I was that special :BootyTime: I thought it's just Patreon chat stuff
I think you are one of the people who will get access there anyway without patreon. I asked him in PM this morning and he said that those who were there before chapter 2 and communicated that way will have access
 

RoadWulf

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I just don't get the logic behind making Sam the girlfriend from the start. Making her one of the romantic interests, sure. She's awesome and plus you know "Sister's Bestfriend" gotta go after that. But making this depressed, lethargic, overly tattoo covered loser go after someone else and lose easily one of the 4 best characters in the game (the other 3 are Olivia's tits and Jasmine) is just dumb.

Also is anyone having massive memory problems from the Animations in this game since the dumbass Dev didn't code them to end until they all end?
 
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Dragon59

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When a dev forces a gf/wife at the start of a game, I rebel against it. So, more choices in women are great for me and then I start hoping for the choice to dump the forced gf/wife. But, I see other people's points about it also. Everyone has different tastes and that's a good thing.
When a dev begins a story with an existing relationship, I will accept that it needed for the story the developer wants to tell and accept it. Then again, I consider these AVNs.

In my own current project, the two women are on their honeymoon because that's essential for their story (hint: Lesbian sex not avoidable).
I'm finding the story way too depressing for a porn game, I like slow burn games so I'm not looking for sex from the get go, but I'm also not looking for this kind of a heavy theme.
Such stories aren't for everyone, especially for people looking for "A porn game."
AVNs exist, in part, to tell stories with adult themes, and those themes sometimes include stories of sadness and loss, struggle and acceptance.
 
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Dragon59

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Devs could spare themselves a lot of pointless headaches if they were honest and transparent about all the stuff they want in their stories, a warning would also be good, but I think honesty and professionalism are better options. That way, nobody could pretend they're surprised this or that happened or they saw scenes they didn't expect to see in the story. But instead, they crawl back to their caves, delete their accounts and act like spoiled, pissy princesses cuz they can't handle criticism for their own mistakes.
I can imagine some people insisting that George R.R. Martin put warnings before Bran's encounter in the tower or the Red Wedding.

I consider Adult Visual Novels to be Visual Novels for Adults who shouldn't expect such hand-holding in a story for people who apparently can't tolerate surprises.
 

Dark Silence

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When a dev begins a story with an existing relationship, I will accept that it needed for the story the developer wants to tell and accept it. Then again, I consider these AVNs.
Doesn't matter. They will tell their story, but I will almost always cheat from the get go and hope the dev gives us the chance to drop her.
 
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Dessolos

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Doesn't matter. They will tell their story, but I will almost always cheat from the get go and hope the dev gives us the chance to drop her.
I feel that unless I like the GF right away. Only time I dont follow that rule on AVN's is if the force relationship is your wife cause then at least from the ones ive played feels like the game is either about the story, themes like NTR or sharing but in either case it makes me want to stay faithful for my first playthrough. As well sometimes not really that many LI options when there is a wife forced.
 

Dark Silence

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I feel that unless I like the GF right away. Only time I dont follow that rule on AVN's is if the force relationship is your wife cause then at least from the ones ive played feels like the game is either about the story, themes like NTR or sharing but in either case it makes me want to stay faithful for my first playthrough. As well sometimes not really that many LI options when there is a wife forced.
Yeah, I don't play NTR/sharing games. Different strokes for different folks.
 

yossa999

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Well... If at least one of you went to the dev server (now you won't have that chance anymore) and read some information about the characters, relationships or story you would know that Sam and MC are not in a relationship.

Their whole "relationship" is based on friendship from childhood which grew into something like "fuck buddy". They have always been very close, they feel something more for each other than friends usually do but they never agreed to a relationship. If something went wrong it would most likely destroy their friendship as well. They both remained open to "multiple possibilities" in their lives but thanks to the way their lives changed because of Lily, neither of them seemed to be "dedicating" to their private lives.
Man, you don't have to worry about me, I'm not interested in looking for secret chats and additional explanations of what is happening in the game. The game itself is enough. I was just sharing my thoughts with other people in the thread, after all, that's what game on-topic threads are for. If the author's intention was to show that Sam and MC have some kind of open relationship or just "fuck buddies", well then I didn't get it from what I saw in the game. On the contrary, I got the impression that they are a loving couple who have been in a serious relationship for quite some time. But I'm not a member of secret chats, so please excuse my ignorance and stupidity.
 
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