One of the users explicity told the dev why he should pay for AI, telling him that he's making no effort in the game. Basically saying to the dev that he needs to create his own 3D models and animations instead of using AI and being lazy. That was beyond the translation problem.
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And how does that affect you? If you don't want to pay because you think the AI is lazy, then don't play or pay, problem solved. Instead of coming here and saying other people's work is lazy, when you know absolutely nothing about the work that's actually been put in. And I read somewhere that they were using ICSTOR and Lust & Passion as examples when those two literally live off models from like 5 years ago and models that you can buy. Besides, if you hate AI so much, why did you click on a game where it was obvious from Mars that it was AI? And the best thing is to get off the internet because the way things are going, the vast majority are going to be AI creations.
Reminds me of Arrival of the Goddess.
the translation gets worse as you progress. This feels like a bad AI chat bot learning from its own poor responses. If you skip through the text then I guess the game is good for you. Otherwise the only reason to play this is because you are very very fond of this fetish.
the translation gets worse as you progress. This feels like a bad AI chat bot learning from its own poor responses. If you skip through the text then I guess the game is good for you. Otherwise the only reason to play this is because you are very very fond of this fetish.
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Stop stressing out. The developer clearly stated that the translation was bad, and that it was sufficient for this update.
I've always been told: either you do things properly or you don't do them at all.
And that he only made this game to make money, so it was a chore.
Therefore, no passion.
And instead of fixing this translation problem, he preferred to stop everything and run away.
He doesn't have what it takes to be an AVN developer.
When you present a project to the public, you have to be prepared to handle all kinds of criticism.
And lately we've had our fair share of crappy AI games.
Personally, AI art is okay.
AI dialogue is not okay.
Sometimes it's better to stop than to make things worse.
PS This is just my opinion and mine alone; I don't want to influence anyone.
I've always been told: either you do things properly or you don't do them at all.
And that he only made this game to make money, so it was a chore.
Therefore, no passion.
And instead of fixing this translation problem, he preferred to stop everything and run away.
He doesn't have what it takes to be an AVN developer.
When you present a project to the public, you have to be prepared to handle all kinds of criticism.
And lately we've had our fair share of crappy AI games.
Personally, AI art is okay.
AI dialogue is not okay.
Sometimes it's better to stop than to make things worse.
PS This is just my opinion and mine alone; I don't want to influence anyone.
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no please this game is amazing please dont stop it for those who dnt like it lets see them make one half of this
WTH is this self important gibberish. Someone making a porn game having financial incentive and wanting compensation for their time is hardly surprising not every porn game maker can be in it just for the sake of artistic purity.
It's a work in progress not a complete game, Devs often put out an update with known issues like clunky dialogue or renders in part to see where there maybe game breaking issues. The public gets a free update even if it has a few warts the Dev gets free game testing. This is a free game not some AAA game you just spent $80 bucks on. You are proof that beggars can't be choosers but they sure as hell can be whiners.
The dialogue is clunky but not complete gibberish so long as it's understandable it's fine for a work in progress.
None of these free games cost you anything but time. If you don't like one move on to another. If you are out shopping and someone offers you a free sample and you eat it but don't like it do you knock the tray out of their hand and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of the store? Because that's basically what you are doing here.
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I think you just can't read properly and you're misinterpreting everything I wrote.
Nothing I wrote was pretentious, far from it.
I'm responsible for what I write, but I'm not responsible for how you understand it.
I was just trying to say that the developer made some good or bad choices, and instead of improving things, he preferred to leave.
So that was his decision. If a guy can't take criticism, then this job isn't for him, period.
Stop talking nonsense, he's not here to give us a free game, he's here to find cash cows, to sell his AI-generated crap,
so stop treating people like idiots, tonDEV isn't Santa Claus.
And if you're not capable of understanding other users' points of view, don't come to a forum.
If you don't like my post, then just move on.
So don't bother me with your cheap reaction.I didn't ask you for anything
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Bullshit you whine about the Dev knowingly putting out clunky dialogue on something that is still in it's development phase, your whole line about "do something right or don't do it all" is garbage in that context. It's a free product that's still in development not a finished product that you paid for and if the Dev is aware of the shortcoming no point in harping on it either. This is more about finding things that break the game not things that are somewhat less than ideal but still functional.
Things can be more than one thing someone can enjoy doing something overall and still find aspects of it tedious or unenjoyable things are rarely all black or white and it's a porn game bringing up artistic integrity in discussions of a porn game is pretentious as hell. Most importantly people gotta eat, so I aint criticizing someone for wanting to be paid for their time. If someone wants to make a porn game and expects no recompense that's cool too, but not expected.
If Dev says they know they got some clunky dialogue and renders in an update then they get people going full grammar nazi and whining like the Napa Valley about a render with 6 fingers on one hand and weird eyes I can see where that is frustrating.
I would criticize the Dev for insisting on payment in crypto because if a Dev wants money they should make it as easy as possible for people to give it, but whining about game issues known and mentioned by the Dev for a work in progress is allowed but also fucking stupid.
WTF is wrong with you????
When did I say I’m against AI? I didn’t. I clearly said that ''one of the users'' told the developer that. I was responding to someone who claimed people were only complaining about the translation. That’s simply not true. Several comments went beyond that and directly harassed the developer over his use of AI.
That’s the point I’m making. This discussion isn’t about whether AI is good or bad, it’s about acknowledging that some people weren’t giving feedback at all, they were attacking the dev’s creative choices. Misrepresenting that as “just translation criticism” ignores what actually happened in the comments. And also, this game is one of my favorites, I wrote a review giving 5 stars on it in the early release, and I enjoyed the update.
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You just don't know when to stop.
You're defending a guy who generates everything with AI With dialogue!!! Me Tarzan, you Jane, you're a joke.
You're just bummed because you won't get the sequel to this game lol
Anyway, you can keep defending him, you're wasting your time because he's no longer here.
Even the OP's post was recovered by the mods and restored.
So go ahead, keep going. Personally, it makes me laugh to see how you don't let people have their own opinions, how you impose your point of view so much, it's pathetic.
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Please don't abandon this game; it has immense potential. All it takes is two or three consistent updates in a row. AI games that are far inferior to this one are making a fortune, so yours will surely earn much more. It just needs regular updates and consistent activity.
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Development has been halted. I’ll upload a proper translation to Boosty later. I’ll also send it separately to those who deserve it.
A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.
The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.
There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.
You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.
A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.
The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.
There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.
You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.
But what if I send about 5$ in Tether? Would you continue development? It's really one of the best games I've seen on this site yet.
These same debates exist in every AI thread. To see how much people enjoyed it, you just need to read the reviews. You only have three low-star ratings, and those are solely due to the translation, which is truly unfair. But then again, who cares about reviews and ratings? No one
I hope you ignore the haters and keep this project going
Glad to read that. Hope you don’t give up, Render. Most of us really enjoy your game and even praise the AI art in it.
One of thing That baffles me about this website is the ammount of people that play stuff that they already know that they are not going to like.
You can go to any ntr/nts/sharing game and there is always 30 idiots asking if the NTR is avoidable or just talking how much the game is shit becuase is NTR.
You can go to any 3d render game and you will see 30 idiots saying the renders are ugly.
You can go to any 2d art game and you will see 30 idiots saying the dev cycles are to long ignoring the fact that 2d art takes time.
Go to a RPGM game and you will find 30 idiots saying that the game is to grindy and it takes to long to go into action.
Go to a Ren'py game and there will be 30 idiots talking about how ren'py best fuction is the Skip bottom.
And Finally, Go to any AI rendered game and people will be bitching for hours about the fact that AI is used.
Just skip it, don't play it. if it does not suit your taste go and play something else, nobody cares and no one should care, why would anyone actively go specifically to a fish restaurant just to make a scene about the fact they hate fish? is stupid and it should stop swear to god that everyday a pray for a tool so thread owners can ban people for commenting.
Yes am defending the game and the dev because the game suits my taste in what it presents and it scartches a particular itch in set up and art, you hate it because it does not suit you just unwatch the thread and go find something else.
You can go to any ntr/nts/sharing game and there is always 30 idiots asking if the NTR is avoidable or just talking how much the game is shit becuase is NTR.
You can go to any 3d render game and you will see 30 idiots saying the renders are ugly.
You can go to any 2d art game and you will see 30 idiots saying the dev cycles are to long ignoring the fact that 2d art takes time.
Go to a RPGM game and you will find 30 idiots saying that the game is to grindy and it takes to long to go into action.
Go to a Ren'py game and there will be 30 idiots talking about how ren'py best fuction is the Skip bottom.
And Finally, Go to any AI rendered game and people will be bitching for hours about the fact that AI is used.
Just skip it, don't play it. if it does not suit your taste go and play something else, nobody cares and no one should care, why would anyone actively go specifically to a fish restaurant just to make a scene about the fact they hate fish? is stupid and it should stop swear to god that everyday a pray for a tool so thread owners can ban people for commenting.
Yes am defending the game and the dev because the game suits my taste in what it presents and it scartches a particular itch in set up and art, you hate it because it does not suit you just unwatch the thread and go find something else.
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I'll try to be clearer (but that other fanboy really pissed me off)
Nevertheless, if the translation had been done properly from the start, none of this would have happened.
The renders are great, I love Petra.
But honestly, the terrible translation completely kills the immersion, plain and simple.
It's almost sacrilegious to use such good renders with such a mediocre translation.
The story is interesting But it's hard to appreciate a story when it's poorly translated.
Nevertheless, if the translation had been done properly from the start, none of this would have happened.
The renders are great, I love Petra.
But honestly, the terrible translation completely kills the immersion, plain and simple.
It's almost sacrilegious to use such good renders with such a mediocre translation.
The story is interesting But it's hard to appreciate a story when it's poorly translated.
I wont pretend to know how hard it's is because it will make my brain pop but i will say i didn't realize it was just a remake and not even a continuation of the story which was disappointing but i honestly liked this game, there is a lot worse out there. I thought it looked hot plus I love Redheads. But damn this one gone now plus the dev of Corrupting Mia just abandoned their game for the same reason. Sad to see 2 what could have been good ones go.
But damn this one gone now plus the dev of Corrupting Mia just abandoned their game for the same reason. Sad to see 2 what could have been good ones go.