VN Ren'Py Big Black Diamonds [v0.2] [render9000]

[alucardthe1st]

no please this game is amazing please dont stop it for those who dnt like it lets see them make one half of this

 

[0tt0von]

Stop stressing out. The developer clearly stated that the translation was bad, and that it was sufficient for this update.

I've always been told: either you do things properly or you don't do them at all.

And that he only made this game to make money, so it was a chore.

Therefore, no passion.

And instead of fixing this translation problem, he preferred to stop everything and run away.

So he doesn't have the makings of an artist.

When you present a project to the public, you have to be prepared to handle all kinds of criticism.

And lately we've had our fair share of crappy AI games.

Personally, AI art is okay.

AI dialogue is not okay.

Sometimes it's better to stop than to make things worse.

WTH is this self important gibberish. Someone making a porn game having financial incentive and wanting compensation for their time is hardly surprising not every porn game maker can be in it just for the sake of artistic purity.

It's a work in progress not a complete game, Devs often put out an update with known issues like clunky dialogue or renders in part to see where there maybe game breaking issues. The public gets a free update even if it has a few warts the Dev gets free game testing. This is a free game not some AAA game you just spent $80 bucks on. You are proof that beggars can't be choosers but they sure as hell can be whiners.

The dialogue is clunky but not complete gibberish so long as it's understandable it's fine for a work in progress.

None of these free games cost you anything but time. If you don't like one move on to another. If you are out shopping and someone offers you a free sample and you eat it but don't like it do you knock the tray out of their hand and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of the store? Because that's basically what you are doing here.

 

[0tt0von]

I think you just can't read properly and you're misinterpreting everything I wrote.

Nothing I wrote was pretentious, far from it.

I'm responsible for what I write, but I'm not responsible for how you understand it.

I was just trying to say that the developer made some good or bad choices, and instead of improving things, he preferred to leave.

So that was his decision. If a guy can't take criticism, then this job isn't for him, period.

And if you're not capable of understanding other users' points of view, don't come to a forum.

So don't bother me with your cheap reaction.

Bullshit you whine about the Dev knowingly putting out clunky dialogue on something that is still in it's development phase, your whole line about "do something right or don't do it all" is garbage in that context. It's a free product that's still in development not a finished product that you paid for and if the Dev is aware of the shortcoming no point in harping on it either. This is more about finding things that break the game not things that are somewhat less than ideal but still functional.

Things can be more than one thing someone can enjoy doing something overall and still find aspects of it tedious or unenjoyable things are rarely all black or white and it's a porn game bringing up artistic integrity in discussions of a porn game is pretentious as hell. Most importantly people gotta eat, so I aint criticizing someone for wanting to be paid for their time. If someone wants to make a porn game and expects no recompense that's cool too, but not expected.

If Dev says they know they got some clunky dialogue and renders in an update then they get people going full grammar nazi and whining like the Napa Valley about a render with 6 fingers on one hand and weird eyes I can see where that is frustrating.

I would criticize the Dev for insisting on payment in crypto because if a Dev wants money they should make it as easy as possible for people to give it, but whining about game issues known and mentioned by the Dev for a work in progress is allowed but also fucking stupid.

 

[Dopplyn]

And how does that affect you? If you don't want to pay because you think the AI is lazy, then don't play or pay, problem solved. Instead of coming here and saying other people's work is lazy, when you know absolutely nothing about the work that's actually been put in. And I read somewhere that they were using ICSTOR and Lust & Passion as examples when those two literally live off models from like 5 years ago and models that you can buy. Besides, if you hate AI so much, why did you click on a game where it was obvious from Mars that it was AI? And the best thing is to get off the internet because the way things are going, the vast majority are going to be AI creations.

WTF is wrong with you????

When did I say I’m against AI? I didn’t. I clearly said that ''one of the users'' told the developer that. I was responding to someone who claimed people were only complaining about the translation. That’s simply not true. Several comments went beyond that and directly harassed the developer over his use of AI.


That’s the point I’m making. This discussion isn’t about whether AI is good or bad, it’s about acknowledging that some people weren’t giving feedback at all, they were attacking the dev’s creative choices. Misrepresenting that as “just translation criticism” ignores what actually happened in the comments. And also, this game is one of my favorites, I wrote a review giving 5 stars on it in the early release, and I enjoyed the update.

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

Kulman Wilwock and others evaluated the game strictly based on the translation.
Of course the translation is bad — I knew that from the start. But even so, the game itself and its potential can be judged objectively.
I could easily do the translation myself, just like an Android port.
However, seeing who would end up getting it for free, we won’t be doing that.
Any further updates will be released only if we decide that the game and the work put into it have paid off.
Не делай добра — не получишь зла

Please don't abandon this game; it has immense potential. All it takes is two or three consistent updates in a row. AI games that are far inferior to this one are making a fortune, so yours will surely earn much more. It just needs regular updates and consistent activity.

 

[render9000]

Development has been halted. I’ll upload a proper translation to Boosty later. I’ll also send it separately to those who deserve it.

A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.

The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.

There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.

You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.

 

[Nameless420]

Development has been halted. I’ll upload a proper translation to Boosty later. I’ll also send it separately to those who deserve it.

A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.

The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.

There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.

You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.

But what if I send about 5$ in Tether? Would you continue development? It's really one of the best games I've seen on this site yet.

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

Development has been halted. I’ll upload a proper translation to Boosty later. I’ll also send it separately to those who deserve it.

A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.

The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.

There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.

You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.

These same debates exist in every AI thread. To see how much people enjoyed it, you just need to read the reviews. You only have three low-star ratings, and those are solely due to the translation, which is truly unfair. But then again, who cares about reviews and ratings? No one
I hope you ignore the haters and keep this project going

 

[Dopplyn]

Development has been halted. I’ll upload a proper translation to Boosty later. I’ll also send it separately to those who deserve it.

A lot of people genuinely think that AI images are easy. But trying to launch a render in Daz is fucking hard. It’s ridiculous to read this kind of nonsense. For me, a person like that is automatically dumb. I’m sure they talk about things they don’t understand at all. On top of that, I personally hate 3D.

The story and dialogues in the game were not written by AI. AI was used only for translation. The game already has a finished plot, many endings, and a large number of well-developed characters. All of this will remain forever in a .txt file.

There are games here with 200 patrons for 15 minutes of gameplay. Lol. There aren’t even any choices. No story. But hey — no AI. Most developers, without funding, would have finished their projects — 90% of them.

You’re free to think whatever you want. I’m not going to run around trying to prove anything to everyone. The game is free: if you want to play — play. If you don’t — don’t.

Glad to read that. Hope you don’t give up, Render. Most of us really enjoy your game and even praise the AI art in it.

 

[kunomu]

What the hell are you even talking about. People are complaining about the horrible quality of the AI translation (at least in the reviews and what I complained about, since the dev mentioned me). Not that its an AI translation, or that its AI CG.

Do you not know the meaning of the word "some" or you just like to act retarded?

 

[batztefano]

One of thing That baffles me about this website is the ammount of people that play stuff that they already know that they are not going to like.

You can go to any ntr/nts/sharing game and there is always 30 idiots asking if the NTR is avoidable or just talking how much the game is shit becuase is NTR.

You can go to any 3d render game and you will see 30 idiots saying the renders are ugly.

You can go to any 2d art game and you will see 30 idiots saying the dev cycles are to long ignoring the fact that 2d art takes time.

Go to a RPGM game and you will find 30 idiots saying that the game is to grindy and it takes to long to go into action.

Go to a Ren'py game and there will be 30 idiots talking about how ren'py best fuction is the Skip bottom.

And Finally, Go to any AI rendered game and people will be bitching for hours about the fact that AI is used.

Just skip it, don't play it. if it does not suit your taste go and play something else, nobody cares and no one should care, why would anyone actively go specifically to a fish restaurant just to make a scene about the fact they hate fish? is stupid and it should stop swear to god that everyday a pray for a tool so thread owners can ban people for commenting.

Yes am defending the game and the dev because the game suits my taste in what it presents and it scartches a particular itch in set up and art, you hate it because it does not suit you just unwatch the thread and go find something else.

 

[polipol739]

wow it's abandoned?

 

[gilgamesh9]

I wont pretend to know how hard it's is because it will make my brain pop but i will say i didn't realize it was just a remake and not even a continuation of the story which was disappointing but i honestly liked this game, there is a lot worse out there. I thought it looked hot plus I love Redheads. But damn this one gone now plus the dev of Corrupting Mia just abandoned their game for the same reason. Sad to see 2 what could have been good ones go.

 

[Undir]

Now that I've played it, I think it's a game with a lot of potential. The story is engaging, although it needs editing in some parts, as there are sections where the dialogue doesn't quite flow. The use of AI for the images and video doesn't bother me; in fact, I like it because it's different from other games that use AI and make everything look the same, or where the images don't seem to flow or make sense as a whole. It has its own style, or at least I haven't seen it in other games, and it's also very high quality. As for the story, I like the mysteries it presents, and it leaves you wanting to know the secrets. I also like seeing scenes with other characters besides the main ones. Another thing I like is that it has a bit of bestiality, and that mix isn't very common. I'd like to see more, and I hope the author returns.

 

[Expreso]

Complaining about a game and not paying for it is crazy..

 

[BangB420]

As always, chronic f95zone users bullying devs that causes them to abandon their games. The mods should really do something about this.

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

As always, chronic f95zone users bullying devs that causes them to abandon their games. The mods should really do something about this.

Agreed. Someone call a mod...I don’t know how to do it myself.
We’re here to have a good time, but these few people have made the place toxic.
Also, if you’re able, please support the developer financially so they come back. This game is amazing; the renders are indistinguishable from real photos.

 

[znnrqp]

Did you dorks seriously bully the dev so much this thing got a major update and officially abandoned in 24hrs?

 

[OGloc_420]

Man you guys need to shut the fuck up about "bullying" the dev. If he doesn't have a thick enough skin for some losers on a forum picking on his game - he's not built for this life.

Just let him do whatever he wants to do.

 

[liljustntmbrlake]

i cant get the app to open on my mac. i did all the usual privacy/security approvals when downloading any game, but it never opens. any thoughts, fellas?