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maxbishup

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That is a very spot on analysis of the original game, and it's downfall. It was always very clear that the game had far too much grind. Simply moving the decimal place over one spot on all grind actions so as to benefit you 10 times faster wouldn't have even been enough. Nobody enjoys excessive repetitive grind. Eric's invisible counter-grind was the worst as well. Had that been made more visible, and controllable the game would have been far more interesting.

To solve the "Cuck Complainers" problem the best solution would have been to give the option for Eric to become the protagonist in place of Max. For instance if you get Max shipped off to military school then it's not "Game Over". It's Eric is now protagonist. Making Max have been a False protagonist to that point. "Eric's Story" no longer "Big Brother".

Problem was they simply necked Eric. Sold him off to be some sex slave in a dungeon some place when it was Max all along that should have been taken out of the equation.

Playing as Eric a much faster new grind can also be implimented. Eric could have been a greater protagonist... New Step Daddy with 2 hot daughters. Maybe play just for Anne, be faithful, or maybe go for all 3.

Perhaps killing off Max with military school would have ended up the same way it did with killing off Eric... Maybe recode the whole game go back to the start, and "Pick your player" Max or Eric. That could have been interesting.

Problem was the team up with Eric stuff, and all the Eric building and all that was destroyed too. The story told from Eric's perspective had a lot of potential, and was squandered because he simply became a "Bull Enemy" or "Bull Buddy".
I've said this 500 times, so I'll say it again, Aleksey has said many times that he does not like Eric, now you want him to make Eric the protagonist. I'm sure this is going to happen, right. Ok, a better solution for Eric, Max and Eric are alone at the house, the girls are gone shopping. Eric is sitting by the pool, Max is behind him with a tire iron, just by accident Eric lay dead by the pool, Max cuts his head of(for a trophy)and grinds the body up, can's it and labeled it Eric's little wewe dog food, packaged and shipped off to Uzbekistan. Eric problem over. Oh, Max explains to the family that the sculpture of Eric's head that he keeps on his bedpost is to remined him of the great (Little dick) man he used to know. Now as for the Eric/no Eric NTR/no NTR debate, I've ben there, done that, got the t-shirt, moving on.
 

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Dead Eric in Pool is not the best idea because do have an idea how much it would cost to change the water and the family is already short on it ;)
 

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Ok, a better solution for Eric, Max and Eric are alone at the house, the girls are gone shopping.
Eric is sitting by the pool. He hears a sound behind him and spots Max.
"Max", his commanding voice booms, sweat glistening from his muscled body, "what's that in your hand?"
"Nothing," Max squeeks as he drops the tire iron.
"Really," Eric grumbles as he marches up to the boy, "how is it you are so weak?"
Max freezes in place as the large man traces his fingers over the young boy's chest.
"You could have such a broad chest if you only worked out. Tell you what, I'll help you with that."
Max gulps as Eric gets behind him, his hands still running over his chest.
"Would you like that?" Eric growls in Max's ear as the large man's hand drops lower and his fingers slips inside his swimming trunks, "would you like to be... bigger?"

No?
 

maxbishup

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Eric is sitting by the pool. He hears a sound behind him and spots Max.
"Max", his commanding voice booms, sweat glistening from his muscled body, "what's that in your hand?"
"Nothing," Max squeeks as he drops the tire iron.
"Really," Eric grumbles as he marches up to the boy, "how is it you are so weak?"
Max freezes in place as the large man traces his fingers over the young boy's chest.
"You could have such a broad chest if you only worked out. Tell you what, I'll help you with that."
Max gulps as Eric gets behind him, his hands still running over his chest.
"Would you like that?" Eric growls in Max's ear as the large man's hand drops lower and his fingers slips inside his swimming trunks, "would you like to be... bigger?"

No?
Yeah, I always thought Eric was gay, it seems he has a lot of guys in love with him.
 
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Lionheart007

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Yeah, I always thought Eric was gay, it seems he has a lot of guys in love with him.
I mean, not really trying to find a needle in a haystack here, but I, as an Eric fan, am finding myself feeling a bit offended here. Honestly, when I first saw the BB cover, way back when, although, by the time I started playing 'twas already "a case closed", and saw another one of those little, rapey, MCs, who' s only goal in life is to fuck their mother (Who by now forgot how her husband looks), sister, other sister, their sister and the aunt (absolutely adore her, btw), another one kicked from school, abandoned by his father, completely broke, utterly remorseless and with a moral compass more broken then Mannis's grinding teeth. I was already thinking, it' gonna be one of those (I, at that point in time had already played some H games western or otherwise, and had noticed the famous trend here, but BB was still one of the first big boys from here that I acquainted myself with). But I can't really criticize Dark Silver himself, since at the time it was obviously a trend, he was probably looking for something that could very well be successful and was thus practical. I can't criticize Max for his incestuous tendencies, since I had the hots for my aunt as well and I have no right to cast doubt on his moral compass, because my own is already broken enough for two, but I blame society for that. But I have the right to criticize Max for his uselessness, for lack of worth, lack of character, lack of spine, and absolute lack of success and ambition. I, as depraved and shameless as I am, find myself humble enough to declare, that I as an ambitious, greedy, spiteful, little man, do find this fictional character named Max to be pathetic. But, since, we are here arguing about fictional characters, one could say that we are pathetic as well, not that I will ever say or admit to something like that. I, as a proud H-gamer, a NTR fan, and a man on top of that, have long since learned to detach myself from these pitiful beings I play as and to amuse myself as I look on and watch them suffer, and fuck of course. I, found myself amused, entertained and aroused as I continued to play BB, because despite the fact that the plot was quite pitiful, the PLOT and the design, which was realistic for once, thank the god, were quite excellent, indeed. But, please do not accuse me of being gay, I am as straight as they come, just because I happen to like Eric, more than I like Max. Just because I spend my free time, playing games in which men think with their cock and are without brain, I still find myself capable of rational thought, and find Eric far more likable then Max. Not that I have anything against the little brat, since I have already admitted to having spent hours playing a game with him as the MC, I can't very well despise him, can I? Give him some balls, make him a bit more evil, a bit careful, a bit more manipulative, and fucking hell, give him a life, without school and education in this day and age he cannot be anything, anything legal at least, the coin's other side remains to be explored, but unfortunately the only thing he can explore are all the various ways he can use to get into someone's panties, which might I add is still something, but it's not enough. And you can't really fault me for picking a more of an asshole, more successful, more manipulative, wealthier and far more preferable alternative in this case, can you now? I will still play the game either way, but if it has Eric in it, and more importantly EricXAlice and EricXKira content, I will find the game far more enjoyable, all of a sudden.
Anyhow, I stand by my point, if we were to argue about more likable characters, Eric it is, but the fact that we are arguing at all ...

P. S. Alice is the best girl
 
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Originally you had Eric try and take all women as his own, so you had to stop his influence and basically take his place as the alpha and make them all your fucktoys.

Problem was, this whole thing was a grindfest, including the “war” which basically was non-existent, causing people to complain about Eric since his “counter-grind” happened off screen and thus “magically” happened.

So because his highest tier Patreons threatened to walk out if Eric wasn’t “dealt” with, DS wrote him out.

And that’s where the story completely fell apart. Alice and Lisa were already under your control but it became clear that Lisa just didn’t care and just wanted to fuck no matter what, and Alice did a 180 and went from sub to dom. So we had one sister who didn’t listen to you and another who was the alpha instead of you.

But wait! There is the mom, isn’t there? Oh, that’s an entire clusterfuck on its own. After Eric is gone, Ann gets fired because her old boss wasn’t too fond of Eric (hey Max, instead of going to underground sexdungeons and criminals, why not try his collegues first?) so because she can’t get a job, Kira gets her into porn. But don’t worry, it’s lesbian porn and she doesn’t get to cum because that’s the plan! To get her so horny and sexually frustrated she jumps your bones! She doesn’t fuck you because you’re the best around, like the alpha you should be, but because you’re the only thing available, like the beta you are.
Well as far as i recall (the last time I played a while while ago) there was this asshole (Eric i guess) that was just there and i didn't mind his inclusion, i thought his inclusion as a rival was inreresting.

But then i started playing and i remember that if i didn't make everything perfectly bam either the sisters or the mom where instantly in bed with him while all the grinding barely let me be in a good spotlight.

Just to be clear, while not a fan of the cuck angle (still not like the mc was the boyfriend or husband to claim being cucked) i wouldn't have had a problem if Eric didn't gave me so much a "rapey vibe" (with all the adult content i fapped to that's saying something), like seriously the guy now that i'm remembering somethings makes me imagine that was how Jeffrey Eppstein was when he was younger.

Maybe I'm mixing it with another game but i remember a moment where i choose to put a stop to his bullshit and the guy managed to make me look like an unhinged or psycho. I dropped after that.

Hope this version is a little more balanced in that regard.

But about him being removed at one point, yeah it certainly will affect the flow of the story if the antagonist is removed, basically you have to redone all the story.
 
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Well as far as i recall (the last time I played a while while ago) there was this asshole (Eric i guess) that was just there and i didn't mind his inclusion, i thought his inclusion as a rival was inreresting.

But then i started playing and i remember that if i didn't make everything perfectly bam either the sisters or the mom where instantly in bed with him while all the grinding barely let me be in a good spotlight.

Maybe I'm mixing it with another game but i remember a moment where i choose to put a stop to his bullshit and the guy managed to make me look like an unhinged or psycho.

Hope this version is a little more balanced in that regard.

But about him being removed at one point, yeah it certainly will affect the flow of the story of the antagonist s removed, basically you have to redone all the story.
No, you are not mixing it up, it is in fact Big Brother, that you played and it is it's mechanics that you suffered from. Eric's influence is immense, yours is tiny and you can't do shit about it without grinding your ass off, unfortunately or not, even grinding your ass off, won't really help you. People don't like that and they don't like with reason.

The whole mechanic and grind should be redone, but not removed, game without a grind is no game at all.

And even though I am a staunch supporter of Eric's I would, in fact, like to see all the paths, so He should be removable and the whole shit with him being wanted should be redone as well.
 
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sucker bishup , come s@@k our straight cocks , call too your sissy too boyfriend maxi, sucker momisissylover
Now, now, although I was making a stand and trying to make a point, I was not trying to come out as offensive and antagonistic, just a bit different, hopefully.

I do appreciate the support though, even if it is a bit extreme.
 

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Now, now, although I was making a stand and trying to make a point, I was not trying to come out as offensive and antagonistic, just a bit different, hopefully.

I do appreciate the support though, even if it is a bit extreme.
i know man..i agree with your thinking for the game of course...<this sucker sissy forum prince tries to destroy one of the best games here for months now..thats all..if he cant change it, i still enjoying laughing with her<his> mess,no problem of course, i wish him keep enjoying being eric,s pet forever> :ROFLMAO:
 

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In my opinion the Eric problem was that he was unbeatable, he came and win all the girls and just AFTER that Max can deal with him.
 

alefrago

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In my opinion the Eric problem was that he was unbeatable, he came and win all the girls and just AFTER that Max can deal with him.
you are sexy carla o_O...i am sure you will see here a more reasonable balanced game here for all kind-fans...with more maxi being eric,s pet at first, copperate, can stand alone too maybe later, with more sexy enjoying-interesting ntr,more stories, separated routes as already the developer has announced (y)
 
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creator have health problem - covid... 2-3 weeks later update... patreons voted for full update with kira not only part and then part
 

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Wow!!, what a can of worms I've opened, forgot how touchy snowflakes can be. No offence intended, time was when guys could pick at one another, without the other getting butt hurt. I guess my time in the service(USMC)has made me a bit more thick skinned than some, but really guys get a grip, it's just a game. All I did was reply to someone kidding about Eric grouping Max's dick, with a little kidding of my on. I did not call out anyone by name I wouldn't do that. I was just joking about guys in love with Eric, but jugging by the response, I wonder. No offence and no harm intended.
 

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Wow!!, what a can of worms I've opened, forgot how touchy snowflakes can be. No offence intended, time was when guys could pick at one another, without the other getting butt hurt. I guess my time in the service(USMC)has made me a bit more thick skinned than some, but really guys get a grip, it's just a game. All I did was reply to someone kidding about Eric grouping Max's dick, with a little kidding of my on. I did not call out anyone by name I wouldn't do that. I was just joking about guys in love with Eric, but jugging by the response, I wonder. No offence and no harm intended.
I'll ignore the touchy snowflakes comment and I may have even over reacted and over reached, as I already mentioned, I was not trying to be offensive, and if it came out like that, I do apologize. I was just reacting to your post and expressing my opinion on a topic, which has unfortunately, long since devolved into something which breeds toxicity. Wasn't trying to start or restart any wars, through I may have been a bit too expressive. But ultimately, we shall settle for peace, we are, after all united in our enjoyment of this game and its remake, well most of us anway.

Kindest of regards!
 
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