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Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.00] [Aleksey90]
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Over the past few days, a lot has been said here about the antagonists and their influence on the plot.
Many interesting observations were presented.
However, it was also noted that the plot twists and turns can be so complicated and twisted that the protagonist does not need an opposing character.
For example, in Bad Bobby Saga, there is no antagonist as such, but this does not make the main character's life any easier.
As for this game, thanks to the efforts of the author, there is no antagonist here. Why, you ask? Because the one you take for a classic villain is actually a gaslighter. He's just a pest - a great manipulator and trust player, who sometimes succeeds just for what he is.
In any case, now the blind will start to persistently prove that I am wrong.
And I'll just add that this story will only benefit if there is an antagonist in it, but they forgot to invite him.
Many interesting observations were presented.
However, it was also noted that the plot twists and turns can be so complicated and twisted that the protagonist does not need an opposing character.
For example, in Bad Bobby Saga, there is no antagonist as such, but this does not make the main character's life any easier.
As for this game, thanks to the efforts of the author, there is no antagonist here. Why, you ask? Because the one you take for a classic villain is actually a gaslighter. He's just a pest - a great manipulator and trust player, who sometimes succeeds just for what he is.
In any case, now the blind will start to persistently prove that I am wrong.
And I'll just add that this story will only benefit if there is an antagonist in it, but they forgot to invite him.
Why I choose to play a sandbox game that hasn't many sex scenes in years, is because I want to beat the competition(Eric) through my own efforts an operations. From this perspective, the fake friendship route is the most resonable and fulfilling one.
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In the rebuild there will only be one "pro" Eric path, it's unknown if it will be more like the true or the fake friendship path.
But in the old version it was planned for every path for him to be gone at some point (in the "true" path he would try to get rid of Max), so it's very likely that it will happen in the rebuild. Makes sense since most opportunities don't involve him at all. He'll return as nuissance later however, he's still Ann's boss after all. In the previous person this brought Ann closer to Max since she needed a shoulder to cry on.
But in the old version it was planned for every path for him to be gone at some point (in the "true" path he would try to get rid of Max), so it's very likely that it will happen in the rebuild. Makes sense since most opportunities don't involve him at all. He'll return as nuissance later however, he's still Ann's boss after all. In the previous person this brought Ann closer to Max since she needed a shoulder to cry on.
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i played rebuild version 0.04.02
21days passed in game...erik...mother fucker...when appear?
Hasn't it been implemented yet?
21days passed in game...erik...mother fucker...when appear?
Hasn't it been implemented yet?
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Number of days don't mean anything, except for very few events.
He visited shortly. His story arc will begin in a later chapter, probably CH2.
the only think is you are trying to get viewers and typically it is quantity over quality. They will be in the pool longer than they will be in the bathroom so which camera are you going to watch.
I don't watch webcams personally so maybe the market for that works differently than porn, but I'm not sure quantity over quality is going to work that way. If you're looking for porn are you going to watch the girl in the bikini lounging by the pool or are you going to watch the naked girl masturbating in the bathtub? Presumably Max's webcams are not the only choice people have to choose from even if we as players don't have access to anything else in this game.
What about the girl laying on the couch fully clothed watching TV all day? Are you ever going to choose to watch that? I'm not. Now in terms of game mechanics you might be right and it might not make any difference what's happening in the room as long as someone is there, but that's not true in the real world and that certainly wouldn't be true if Max was just interested in watching for his own amusement either.
Even the game itself drives this point home eventually when Alice makes more progress with her blog. When all she's doing is solo lingerie shows she's not making much. She only starts really making money when she starts fucking Max on camera.
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It would definitly be a nice gameplay element to get more income when we manage to get the girls to wear revealing outfits or even strip down or do something lewd (and of course having a camera in that room).
Yeah, it wouldn't even be hard to do. Just give some sort of naughty rating to each scene based on the clothing being worn (say 0 for fully clothed, 1 for bikini/underwear/towel, 2 for topless, 3 for naked) which serves as a multiplier for the income you would normally get. Then also give an additional naughty rating for whatever action is happening (0 for nonsexual stuff like watching tv, 1 for massage, 2 for oral, 3 for sex).
So you get nothing for a girl watching TV fully clothed (0 rating for both clothing and action), you get the most basic level of income for something like massaging Alice's feet while she's fully clothed watching TV (0 for clothing, 1 for the massage), double that if she's in a bikini by the pool (1 for clothing options and another 1 for the action), etc. Or you might want to give a higher rating for the action so for instance a massage might be worth 2, oral might be 4, sex might be 6.
About the new camera in the bathroom.
My concern is about the Attorney/Lawyer (sorry can't think of her name right now) showing up. She appears shortly after the first (lounge) camera goes live, and now it appears she will be visiting again probably after the bathroom will be added. If she is visiting because of the cameras then the bathroom is a BIG danger, where the Pool area MIGHT be an issue, but not as dangerous to Max.
Yes, the ladies would (probably) be irritated to learn about the secret cameras in the lounge and pool but might accept them for the money. The Bathroom where they get naked would be a MASSIVE shift and could get Max thrown out of the house. So, having the new lawyer lady showing up and asking questions (that hint at knowing about the camera) would worry me.
My thought is that the pool area makes more sense for safety and increasing money because it gets more use. Sure, Max might make less money than in the bathroom, but will there be enough extra money (from the bathroom cam) to really be worth the risk?
Of course, I am also wondering about if there is another (hidden) room/area that was meant to have the system for running the cameras. Yes, the jerk (father?) that gave them the house might have been happy to put the control system in his bedroom, but if the plan had been to watch what was happening in the house secretly, then a hidden room would make more sense. Of course, the idea of another area we have yet to encounter also makes sense if you think about the house utilities like water, power and such. I know that the house was supposed to have solar power, but where are the batteries for that system? A hidden room in that area might make sense.
For the idea of increasing money for more revealing and sexy things happening. In a way we already have a system that could be used with a few adjustments. The viewer count is what matters for the amount of money earned from the cameras. An adjustment that increases that number based on what is happening (how naughty things get) would work as a method for that. I don't know ANYTHING about programming or how hard that would be to add, but it is an option. So, start with a base range for viewers that goes up if someone is in a room. Then add a modifier based on how naughty things are getting in that room. Like I said I have no idea how hard it would be to do, but it would probably be a simpler option than any other, and we (the players) can see the shift in viewers/money.
Just some thoughts.
My concern is about the Attorney/Lawyer (sorry can't think of her name right now) showing up. She appears shortly after the first (lounge) camera goes live, and now it appears she will be visiting again probably after the bathroom will be added. If she is visiting because of the cameras then the bathroom is a BIG danger, where the Pool area MIGHT be an issue, but not as dangerous to Max.
Yes, the ladies would (probably) be irritated to learn about the secret cameras in the lounge and pool but might accept them for the money. The Bathroom where they get naked would be a MASSIVE shift and could get Max thrown out of the house. So, having the new lawyer lady showing up and asking questions (that hint at knowing about the camera) would worry me.
My thought is that the pool area makes more sense for safety and increasing money because it gets more use. Sure, Max might make less money than in the bathroom, but will there be enough extra money (from the bathroom cam) to really be worth the risk?
Of course, I am also wondering about if there is another (hidden) room/area that was meant to have the system for running the cameras. Yes, the jerk (father?) that gave them the house might have been happy to put the control system in his bedroom, but if the plan had been to watch what was happening in the house secretly, then a hidden room would make more sense. Of course, the idea of another area we have yet to encounter also makes sense if you think about the house utilities like water, power and such. I know that the house was supposed to have solar power, but where are the batteries for that system? A hidden room in that area might make sense.
For the idea of increasing money for more revealing and sexy things happening. In a way we already have a system that could be used with a few adjustments. The viewer count is what matters for the amount of money earned from the cameras. An adjustment that increases that number based on what is happening (how naughty things get) would work as a method for that. I don't know ANYTHING about programming or how hard that would be to add, but it is an option. So, start with a base range for viewers that goes up if someone is in a room. Then add a modifier based on how naughty things are getting in that room. Like I said I have no idea how hard it would be to do, but it would probably be a simpler option than any other, and we (the players) can see the shift in viewers/money.
Just some thoughts.
The lawyer's name is Mia, though it was originally Maya in the old versions (heh, I wonder if she has a younger sister who is constantly being accused of murder.) She seemed to know about there being a camera in the lounge, but I don't know if she knows it's being used.
Is that right that she always shows up after the site is created? I wasn't paying attention to the timing of that when I played through it.
Either way I hope she's not there to expose anything (Eric would probably try that if he found out but hopefully he won't have the chance), would be nice to have another character outside the "family" that we eventually get to do things with. I want to see her reaction to Max's giant schlong lol. She seemed surprised at how casually Max hit on her, but also didn't exactly shut him down.
Just don't have Ann's ex-husband appear in person, we'd probably get 15 pages of raging about "NTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!##&*$^&(#^$&#" over a character Ann wants nothing to do with.
Either that, or people wanting to see him fuck Alice and Lisa just like with Eric, ugh.
Though some backstory involving him that explains some of Ann's personality (and doesn't involve kidnapping and extremely traumatic child abuse) would be interesting.
Is that right that she always shows up after the site is created? I wasn't paying attention to the timing of that when I played through it.
Either way I hope she's not there to expose anything (Eric would probably try that if he found out but hopefully he won't have the chance), would be nice to have another character outside the "family" that we eventually get to do things with. I want to see her reaction to Max's giant schlong lol. She seemed surprised at how casually Max hit on her, but also didn't exactly shut him down.
Just don't have Ann's ex-husband appear in person, we'd probably get 15 pages of raging about "NTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!##&*$^&(#^$&#" over a character Ann wants nothing to do with.
Either that, or people wanting to see him fuck Alice and Lisa just like with Eric, ugh.
Though some backstory involving him that explains some of Ann's personality (and doesn't involve kidnapping and extremely traumatic child abuse) would be interesting.
Why not make it so on the true friendship path the You and Eric work together to corrupt the family since both have the same end goal in mind and since its a friendship they are friendly to each other like a big happy family!
I don't want a true friendship path lol.
It just leads to things I don't like doing as the MC in these games, plus I really don't want Eric getting involved with Lisa at all. I'd rather have her come out of her shell without having some creep grooming her, that includes Max.
It just leads to things I don't like doing as the MC in these games, plus I really don't want Eric getting involved with Lisa at all. I'd rather have her come out of her shell without having some creep grooming her, that includes Max.
easy don't play the true friendship path play the other 2 paths will never effect you or your game. also that path was already planned. also can we get to the point where the girls go to dinner table topless? felt like that was gonna happen at some point in the OG game.