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WankerDxD

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I miss the days where people would actually create games that one could buy once they were completed without that ongoing patreon/sponsor/update hassle.

Also, so far I helped to finance over 30 games on kickstarter, I just can't stand that subscription model that is used these days. You get promised something, you pay for that promise and most of the time you also get it (2 exceptions so far), no "we need more/less ntr/milfs/sharing" whining from people who think the devs work for them.
Actually it's good for Devs to not waste their time on failed/Boring project, and to not get burned from hard work .

So , the best thing is when they make a schedule with a plan of 10 big updates or something.

Another point, playing a finished game will make you losing interest faster , and mostly you'll not repeat any scenes.
 

Nemo56

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So , the best thing is when they make a schedule with a plan of 10 big updates or something.
If he organizes the whole things into episodes or whatever doesn't really matter, since these 10 would be one product. Either he raises enough money to be able to complete it or he doesn't. If not, then it won't be produced, classic croudfund model.
Next 10 episode or next season or whatrever would be a separate product.


But why doesn't Patreon take action ??? Because they earn it ???
I think they don't see any reason. After all people know that they keep paying for goodwill.
 

khumak

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I miss the days where people would actually create games that one could buy once they were completed without that ongoing patreon/sponsor/update hassle.

Also, so far I helped to finance over 30 games on kickstarter, I just can't stand that subscription model that is used these days. You get promised something, you pay for that promise and most of the time you also get it (2 exceptions so far), no "we need more/less ntr/milfs/sharing" whining from people who think the devs work for them.
A lot of the devs here do eventually release their game on Steam. So if you want to support the dev but don't want to pay the Patreon subscription you can just wait for it to be finished and then pay the 1 time cost to buy it on Steam. That's my preference as well personally. Unfortunately as you mentioned, a disturbingly high percentage of games get abandoned without being finished so they never make it to Steam. So you either pirate it or you pay a subscription for a game that never gets finished.
 

Nemo56

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A lot of the devs here do eventually release their game on Steam. So if you want to support the dev but don't want to pay the Patreon subscription you can just wait for it to be finished and then pay the 1 time cost to buy it on Steam.
I bougth a few on Steam even if I hate the platform. I prefer itch and GOG. I would also put gamejolt in this list, but sadly they changed their policy about a year ago and removed all adult games - also the ones I bought there prior to that change. They did allow to download these games for about a year after that change, now they are gone for good.
Just today I got two new ones from GOG. To buy on Steam a game must be very good and/or I must be very desperate.


This whole subscriber/patreon thing is not just about money (well, in the end it is, but not MY money). It's also about the whole system giving customers too much power over the creators. Since the project is not completely financed, the creators must keep people happy over a long time, implementing all crap which comes to their minds with all sorts of consequences instead of following their own vision. On the other hand since there is no pressure for them to stay on track and finish the project in time they can keep changing what they already made and change the plans they made, also delaying the production which as a consequence leads to people whining about being milked.
I can understand that this system allows absolute noobs to get into business and try but for advanced (don't want to say "professional") projects it just sucks.
 
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OnlyFunz

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Love your art, thanks man!

..dishes with her shirt and no panties, with a butt plug, turning and looking into the camera?
I would name my next cat after you if you could share something like that!
"Fonzie" is a fitting Cat name. :sneaky:

This one is for you jan.spam and to all those you wish for Alice content.
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Romazeo

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I really love afterparty scenes. More renders, additional "route". This game have to be ended already! And with this remake will be top one novel.
Any news for next update? It is 2 month or so from the last. Not so long, but may be there is someone who subscribed to his official channel..
 

khumak

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This whole subscriber/patreon thing is not just about money (well, in the end it is, but not MY money). It's also about the whole system giving customers too much power over the creators. Since the project is not completely financed, the creators must keep people happy over a long time, implementing all crap which comes to their minds with all sorts of consequences instead of following their own vision.
Yeah I do think a lot of devs tend to fall into that trap. It's fine to take suggestions from your fans if that fits what you want to do as a dev but some of them end up basically doing development by poll just doing whatever the fans vote that they want. This can lead to them developing a game they don't really personally have much interest in, which just about guarantees that it's not going to be much good. So when the fans want something that just doesn't fit for you, you should say thanks for the suggestion but I'm not doing that. Next idea...

You could still do stuff like custom renders that are not in the game that include some content some of the fans are clamoring for like NTR or whatever. Ok here's MC's GF getting fucked by the BBC, enjoy. But it's not going in the game. That kind of thing.

In my case when I was making my Babysitter mod I had a lot of people asking for creeper stuff and foot fetish stuff. I don't like either of those things but tried both and decided not to continue them because I'm just not into that. I don't regret making the attempt, but I definitely would not have enjoyed basing a significant portion of the mod on things like that which hold no interest for me.
 
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jan.spam

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"Fonzie" is a fitting Cat name. :sneaky:

This one is for you jan.spam and to all those you wish for Alice content.
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OMG, thank you kind sir, you deserve a metal, a statue - and not just a cat bur a street named after you!! How is Fronzie Boulevard. :)
perfect posture, even better than I imagined it to me!
If I may ask for on more variant, could you push the plug more in - OR move her left arm towards her butt as if she was trying to catch the plug and push it back in, so in your head you know this distraction was what caused the spill?

Thanks man, even if you do not decide to do this variant, you have brought me joy..
 

Romazeo

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Aleksey90, If you read this thread, you should know I love this game so much. I mean your remake and renders.
For others:
I think there will be another fulfill for missed opportunities. Remember what events still not implemented? For example, shopping with family. I believe Aleksey will make it much bigger, with more renders and scenes. But it need to be organised properly. For example, my Max for now can easily eat Alice and if I start shopping with this save, it should be cuni or more in changing room. And so on...
 

BigRedRadio

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Aleksey90, If you read this thread, you should know I love this game so much. I mean your remake and renders.
For others:
I think there will be another fulfill for missed opportunities. Remember what events still not implemented? For example, shopping with family. I believe Aleksey will make it much bigger, with more renders and scenes. But it need to be organised properly. For example, my Max for now can easily eat Alice and if I start shopping with this save, it should be cuni or more in changing room. And so on...
Yeah, but even if he was updating twice a week someone would be giving him a hard time on why not 3 times :) I think generally it's a compliment that people are impatient for the work but that's not enough to make more hours in the day or things render faster (or whatever cause of the hold up is)
 

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In the remastered version of the game, Spanish language has also been added to the game languages
I have not been on this forum for a long time, I have accumulated a lot of questions. Of course, you can read the forum, but I think for now I will read 500 pages, half a year will pass and another 300 pages will appear on this forum. It will be endless. Therefore, I’ll be a little impudent and ask all the questions that interest me in one package.
1.BBAS remake. Will the new version of the game be a remake or a continuation of the current game?
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2. Quest Blog Alice. Writes, advance in the quest The Mentor. The problem is that the Mentor Quest is completed.
3. Olivia and Lisa at the pool. There are two questions. How to get the event when Max puts sunblock on the girls and what condition should be there for Anna to find out about Olivia? (do not look, this photo is from someone else's save, not from mine).
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4. An event where Ann in stockings and handcuffs can only be obtained if you do not give the bodysuit in Alice's quest. Do I understand correctly?
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5. Memories. I would be grateful if anyone could help me open them.
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