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Mysters90

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I'm a pretty patient person and I understand that the game is being created practically anew, but some things prevent me from sleeping well.
1.
On January 15, testing and refinement of the v0.04 update began. This process will last at least 7 days.
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06/11/22
Many Chapter 1 formation processes are already in progress.
The characters were created based on the Genesis 3 models. At this point, almost nothing is being developed for this generation anymore.
Therefore, the characters were copied on the basis of the Genesis 8 models. For this generation there is a lot of interesting things, in addition, the quality and realism has increased.
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Many people are aware of this problem, but few know the following:
I would build the game first. And already when it is fully ready and properly lined up, then you can update the graphics in parallel with another project.
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08/09/22
Mostly during the holiday I've been working on the full remastered rebuild of the game.
Maybe in September we'll put together some sort of small demo of this rebuild so you can appreciate all the major changes.
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10/30/22
And the sooner we implement a rebuild of the game, the better for everyone. If we don't, it will soon take up to a month to test the game and only grow.
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In January 2023, players are scheduled to be introduced to the first five days of the reassembled game or a full chapter.
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It used to be a true artist's project, but now it's something ambitious but in its infancy.

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I'm a pretty patient person and I understand that the game is being created practically anew, but some things prevent me from sleeping well.
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It used to be a true artist's project, but now it's something ambitious but in its infancy.

Thank you for your attention!
when remake has more content in less time and in space which uses a whole new renders at the same level with more frequent updates also both runs better you know it's the dev but i'm not complaining free is free
 
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when remake has more content in less time and in space which uses a whole new renders at the same level with more frequent updates also both runs better you know it's the dev but i'm not complaining free is free
This first part is what people are complaining about. If he was producing content faster than before I don't think most people would mind as much wiping out all previous content and starting from scratch. The problem is it doesn't seem like the rebuild improved his development speed. Maybe it's too early to tell. I do like what he produces but the speed at which he produces it is slower than most devs I follow. There are others with release schedules that follow similarly long timelines but usually they produce WAY more content per release.
 

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And don't forget that he is aware of the delays (due to him handling a farm now, since he moved) and told his supporters to reduce payments, should they want to continue supporting.
 

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I'm a pretty patient person and I understand that the game is being created practically anew, but some things prevent me from sleeping well.
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It used to be a true artist's project, but now it's something ambitious but in its infancy.

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Their excuse now is that they have old cpu? 4 years of milking and now you’re telling the public about this? look at this dev's lies. That was one of the worst lies. Congratulations suckers and keep being cows.
 
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Mysters90

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Their excuse now is that they have old cpu? 4 years of milking and now you’re telling the public about this? look at this dev's lies. That was one of the worst lies. Congratulations suckers and keep being cows.
Nah dude, that's my comment on the developer's statement about better quality and realism.
It's about my ancient laptop that I bought 11 years ago. And on a new one I just don't risk running the game, as the quality will be even worse.
Here is an example below. How it is now, and how it should be approximately:
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Nah dude, that's my comment on the developer's statement about better quality and realism.
It's about my ancient laptop that I bought 11 years ago. And on a new one I just don't risk running the game, as the quality will be even worse.
Here is an example below. How it is now, and how it should be approximately:
In my opinion the second one is overexposed.
The game should look pretty much the same on every lap top however. You can try to use different rendering modes, but it should not make a difference if your drivers are set up correctly.

If you like the overexposed look and have a HDR screen, you can use Windows 11 internal function to "upscale" SDR to HDR. That achieves a similar effect, depending on the setting.
 

Mysters90

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In my opinion the second one is overexposed.
The game should look pretty much the same on every lap top however. You can try to use different rendering modes, but it should not make a difference if your drivers are set up correctly.

If you like the overexposed look and have a HDR screen, you can use Windows 11 internal function to "upscale" SDR to HDR. That achieves a similar effect, depending on the setting.
This is just an example as the first part is severely underexposed with incorrect colour balance. The whole problem is in the shades and lighting. It makes the images look flatter and less dynamic. This is a problem that is easily solved in rendering.
Histograms of old renders show that everything was adjusted correctly there and visually it looked great.
I prefer to just play around and make edits to the text, rather than trying to modernise already finished renders. That's a path to nowhere. Everyone should be doing their own thing.
The developer and artist at the same time knows this, but he has no plans to improve himself anytime soon. Sorry, but it's utopia. Why try to improve something later when you need to correct the exposure here and now?
It's kind of ridiculous that visually the third generation models in the game look so much better than the eighth generation models.
 
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It's actually V2 of his work, he already changed lighting and everything. The first part of the legacy version looks a lot different.
Maybe this is how he wants to do it?

The good thing about his current file structure is that he can replace elements of a image without redoing everything. We'll see where it goes.
 

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I don't post much, but I wanted to emphasize & re-iterate on something that Mysters90 mentioned.

No one would be minding it much, if the content came out at decent speed. Maybe not very fast, but at least consistently and similar to before the rework.
But despite promising that "the rework is gonna make it look so much better, and it will be so much easier to create the scenes" (roughly quoted fromthe statement about why we are reworking a recreation of a re-imagination of the continuation of a game from years ago...) the progress has slowed to a crawl, the quality is maybe marginally better - if at all.
Catching up with the status of the legacy version seems like an impossible task. And that was announced to happen within a year, if I remember correctly?!
So now, it really just seems to be an infinite time sink where, if (!) we ever get a completed experience, it will probably be after GTA seven.
 
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Mysters90

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It's actually V2 of his work, he already changed lighting and everything. The first part of the legacy version looks a lot different.
Maybe this is how he wants to do it?

The good thing about his current file structure is that he can replace elements of a image without redoing everything. We'll see where it goes.
No, it's still the same. Lighting problems in the form of diffuse light and incorrect colour balance.
If Angelo Badalamenti's composition were used here, it would be a real "Twin Peaks". Because everything is done in dark colours.
A few screenshots for comparison:
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It's like comparing the detail of 4K and 1080P images. It should be the other way around:(
And I have to quote the developer again:
I would build the game first. And already when it is fully ready and properly lined up, then you can update the graphics in parallel with another project.
I'd be willing to give a damn about the wait if the artist appreciated the detail in the images. He used to, but now he probably doesn't care.
Technology advances and we get soap:confused:
 
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