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Eric should be told no (by Lisa *and* Ann) to giving any kind of "lessons" to Lisa, then be kicked out when he tries to go behind Ann's back and manipulate Lisa into it when he's alone with her (basically like in the original version of this game but the lessons never happen at all.)

I've written a lot of (dumb) outlines and stuff for my own never-to-be-made BB game (and a bunch of other game ideas that will never get made into anything so it's not just BB) so I have lots of ideas for Eric's inevitable demise lol.

Speaking of the old version, I never really liked the way the Alice method happened.
Max having proof that Eric was jerking it to Alice while she's sleeping naked should have been enough without Max adding his own crime on top of it.
I know the game's not realistic in most ways but that would have had the police involved for sure, and more than likely ended with Max getting in serious trouble.

Anyway.
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Yeah IMO he's crazy if he doesn't put Olivia content in soon. She's tailor made for making quick, satisfying levels of progress without requiring a long grind and she also provides an easy way to include Lisa in some cuckquean style content even if she's not the one getting most of the action. Eventually she'll join in but that can take as long as he wants it to.
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I'd definitely prefer it being Olivia that helps get Lisa out of her shell, instead of some creepy "sex ed" lessons with Eric that are just a way for him to corrupt her into being another one of his "toys."

Honestly even some of the stuff Kira was doing with Lisa and Max was a bit much, just teach her how to give BJs and leave it at that until she's ready for more. She doesn't have to turn into the sexual freak (in a good way lol) that she was in Glamour, at least not until a point that's VERY late in the game anyway.

Kira can help with Ann once Eric's out of the way.

We'll also eventually have Alexandra (Kira's daughter) along with Kate and I'm assuming (desperately hoping for) Mia the lawyer in the mix too.

Oh and probably Olivia's mom too, and I wonder if the coffee shop girl (Vicki?) will be in this game.
 
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Well, I guess I'll do another one of my HUGE walls of text (you have been WARNED). This will be thoughts and ideas about what we know and what might happen. Yes, I'll divide it up in spoilers for the different characters so people can just read what they want (and less space on the page will be used).

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Alright, I'm done for now. These were just some thoughts. I have no idea what will happen beyond the scenes that have already been released. I claim nothing and want nothing if any of these ideas are used here or elsewhere (though Chocolate Chip Cookies are ALWAYS appreciated).

Just some thoughts.

P.S. I'm going to collapse now. These text walls are EXHAUSTING. :)
 
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Olivia is MOSTLY connected to Lisa. Eventually we may have things happen between her and Max alone, but at this point progress with her is tied to progress with Lisa. For now, the focus should be on Max and Olivia getting to know each other, and the growing friendship between Olivia and Lisa. Over time the character of Olivia can help Lisa become more curious and comfortable with SEXY fun ideas. While not as quick or easy a path as Kira, Olivia IS easier than the other ladies.
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Personally, I think the whole point of putting Olivia in there is to have a believable way to develop a love triangle between Max, Olivia, and Lisa, especially when progress with Lisa is in the early stages where she is not willing to do much with max. Rather than focus on 1 on 1 content with Olivia, personally I think it makes a lot more sense to focus specifically on Max doing stuff with Olivia right in front of Lisa. I would also be in favor of some lesbo "experimentation" between Olivia and Lisa in front of Max. To me a story arc like that is a lot more believable than "Sex Ed" from either her mother or her aunt.

I have no objection to 1 on 1 content with just Max and Olivia, but I think she's much more interesting as a means to advance Lisa's story arc rather than focusing on a separate arc just for herself. I think developing it as kind of a cuckquean arc makes the most sense since that way you can make rapid progress with Olivia while maintaining more of a slow burn with Lisa.
 
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khumak said:
Personally, I think the whole point of putting Olivia in there is to have a believable way to develop a love triangle between Max, Olivia, and Lisa, especially when progress with Lisa is in the early stages where she is not willing to do much with max. Rather than focus on 1 on 1 content with Olivia, personally I think it makes a lot more sense to focus specifically on Max doing stuff with Olivia right in front of Lisa. I would also be in favor of some lesbo "experimentation" between Olivia and Lisa in front of Max. To me a story arc like that is a lot more believable than "Sex Ed" from either her mother or her aunt.

I have no objection to 1 on 1 content with just Max and Olivia, but I think she's much more interesting as a means to advance Lisa's story arc rather than focusing on a separate arc just for herself. I think developing it as kind of a cuckquean arc makes the most sense since that way you can make rapid progress with Olivia while maintaining more of a slow burn with Lisa.
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I agree with MOST of what you wrote. My disagreement is about a cuck queen story. My thought is more of a sharing route. Olivia is VERY open and free so I could see her (and Max) encouraging Lisa to experiment when they are all together. Before this version started to be remade Olivia was encouraging Lisa to be more open (being topless when the three watched movies) and this could continue. Maybe when she starts kissing Max, Olivia could encourage Lisa to try, while talking about how it is not a big deal to kiss her 'Roommate' and such. This would start the process of removing the 'Roommate' argument as more SEXY FUN activities begin.

I guess my idea is more of a corruption through temptation (and encouragement) path. Cucking tends to involve blocking or preventing the cucked person and can have nasty jealousy. My preferred path would be voluntary sharing and encouragement (Sharing is Caring) between friends WITHOUT any jealousy or other problems.

As to the girls experimenting with each other, I agree that it can (and SHOULD) happen. I don't know if it would be a faster or slower progression than Lisa 'experimenting' with Max, but it should probably advance at a similar rate. Heck Lisa spends MUCH more private time with Max, so it will probably take a little longer to get her active with another girl.

Just some thoughts
 
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Shiva0067 said:
I agree with MOST of what you wrote. My disagreement is about a cuck queen story. My thought is more of a sharing route. Olivia is VERY open and free so I could see her (and Max) encouraging Lisa to experiment when they are all together. Before this version started to be remade Olivia was encouraging Lisa to be more open (being topless when the three watched movies) and this could continue. Maybe when she starts kissing Max, Olivia could encourage Lisa to try, while talking about how it is not a big deal to kiss her 'Roommate' and such. This would start the process of removing the 'Roommate' argument as more SEXY FUN activities begin.

I guess my idea is more of a corruption through temptation (and encouragement) path. Cucking tends to involve blocking or preventing the cucked person and can have nasty jealousy. My preferred path would be voluntary sharing and encouragement (Sharing is Caring) between friends WITHOUT any jealousy or other problems.

As to the girls experimenting with each other, I agree that it can (and SHOULD) happen. I don't know if it would be a faster or slower progression than Lisa 'experimenting' with Max, but it should probably advance at a similar rate. Heck Lisa spends MUCH more private time with Max, so it will probably take a little longer to get her active with another girl.

Just some thoughts
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I don't think we really disagree on anything for this other than some semantics surrounding the definition of Cuckquean. My point is just that I think Lisa's story arc is more appealing if it develops as a temptation from her own voyeurism and maybe some competitive teasing between Max, Olivia, and herself rather than from blackmail or deal making by Max or some even more unlikely "sex ed" by her own mother. She already seems to have a voyeur side from the previous version.
 
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I agree about involving Olivia as much as possible instead of most of the "sex ed" stuff (maybe Kira can help a little if anything, like she does with "kissing practice" with Max) or anything with Eric, and definitely about no blackmail or similar things.
 
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I liked how the game was with alice with the exchange with her being up tight but getting corrupted over time into a sex addict for you.

I also love the idea with ann giving sex ed in the bathroom, really would love to see this happen while eric is around sort of like when he is in alices room messing with her you culk him with your mom in the bathroom, he can even catch both in the act later on and have a real interesting situation. Should be too hard to get away with this since eric is fine with letting you watch them have sex, ann picks up on this and you talk her into private lessons, plus you get early access to all those nice changing cloths nude scenes in the mornings.
 
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I hope

rebuilded version need NTL, NTL, swapping for Max
Erik's daughter? wife? sister? sex partner? attorney? anyone need for Max
Max do NTL, swapping and conquer erik's precious girl

If that's not the case
I think so
rebuilded version to be faithful NTR(or Max's girl sharing)
 
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sn1978a1 said:
I hope

rebuilded version need NTL, NTL, swapping for Max
Erik's daughter? wife? sister? sex partner? attorney? anyone need for Max
Max do NTL, swapping and conquer erik's precious girl

If that's not the case
I think so
rebuilded version to be faithful NTR(or Max's girl sharing)
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There is already a version that is more complete that has NTR as the focus "Remake Version", Max increasingly being a cuckold after having some sharing earlier in the story. I just want a complete animated version of the incest harem as the original Big Brother game intended.
 
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rustbell said:
4 year for 0.04.02, looks like a scam.
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Nah, that's two games you are talking about here. The rebuild didn't take that long. The rebuild is going slowly, but we are far from four years. When it was clear he could not keep up the paste, he told his supporters to reduce payments.

Feel free to play the legacy build before starting the 0.4 version.

This is not a pure VN anyway, it's a sandbox-ish game with side activities.
Last but not least: if he called it v127.1, would that make it any better? Version is nothing but a number.
 
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Shiva0067 said:
Eric. He might try to convince Lisa to continue the lessons privately, and SHE and Max go to Ann to complain about him. Perhaps having Max catch them during the FIRST private lesson and dragging Ann to SHOW her what's happening could be an option
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Ann is already OK with Lisa doing sex-ed lessons. Eric has no interest in doing it privately with Lisa without Ann to make things complicate. A more than probable threesome is a much better option for him, given he already moving successfully into that direction. My suggestion to your scenario is Max buying a 4K PTZ camera with 30x optical zoom and hi-def microphone and replace the old camera with a new one in Ann's bedroom.
 
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moozoo said:
Ann is already OK with Lisa doing sex-ed lessons. Eric has no interest in doing it privately with Lisa without Ann to make things complicate. A more than probable threesome is a much better option for him, given he already moving successfully into that direction. My suggestion to your scenario is Max buying a 4K PTZ camera with 30x optical zoom and hi-def microphone and replace the old camera with a new one in Ann's bedroom.
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Sorry, but the DEV has said several times that EVIL Scum Eric will NOT get anywhere with Lisa. The Sex-Ed classes that were part of the version before this rebuild was as far as he would get. I'm not sure about the friend path (I didn't play it), but the reason the lessons changed time and place was because ANN put an end to them (and the new situation was a way to remove Eric). Yes, the dev might change his mind (but that's VERY unlikely).

So, based on that, I tried to give an idea of a better way to handle that part of the story. The Classes have always been a weird part of the game and never really handled well. The ONLY reason Eric should have a part is so that he can be kicked out. To suggest EVIL Scum Eric will get anywhere is wishful thinking.

Just a thought.
 
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Shiva0067 said:
The Classes have always been a weird part of the game and never really handled well
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In fact, that was very scandalous, bold and intriguing move from the developer that generated a lot of excitement in the comment section back in time. In the original BB those three faces appearing on Ann's bedroom icon caused wild speculation about what's going on there, demands to provide continuation, etc. But developer decided to stop that arc listening a small but loud group of NTR haters, and the rest is history.
 
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