Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.01] [Aleksey90]

[solidrou]

What is NTR?

 

[Nemo56]

What is NTR?

A abbrevation for a japanese term that describes a story mechanic: The protagonist catches another guy stealing his love interest(s) and suffers.

Many people oversimplify it to "other guy than the MC having sex". Some even include scenes not visible on screen.

There is also a story mechanic where the protagonist steals someone elses love interest which could be abbrevated the same way, but that's usually not, what people mean.

 

[MR-XS]

I don't understand the complaints about the NTR. There are thousands and thousands of games where it is not present, why complain about a game where it is present and even optional as a choice? In this case, Eric is the real star of the game, without him the story would be flat and uninvolving.

 

[Nemo56]

Probably for the same reason why people ask for it and think a badly designed side character can add anything of value to the game, despite there being thousands and thousands of games with NTR in them and one game almost exclusively focused on that side character.
Some like it and some don't.

 

[MR-XS]

But this game was born with the idea of ntr, or am I wrong?
People know that this is how it was designed and so they would like to continue the story.

I can't understand why choose a product where the ntr is explicit and clear, and then complain about it. It was enough to simply choose something else.

 

[josefwest]

What is NTR?

the most overused misused term on this site

 

[Nemo56]

But this game was born with the idea of ntr, or am I wrong?

No. It's about corrupting the family and of course the cameras ("big brother").

Eric wasn't there in the beginning. He was added at some point because some annoyingly loud people demanded NTR. But his content was always kinda weak. Most story arcs didn't include him at all and once he was removed from the house (on two paths) he didn't have any influence on anything of course. But even if you kept him around on the third path, he would not take part in the upcoming story arcs. He was just there for the sake of it.

 

[Ntwaidumella]

I don't understand the complaints about the NTR. There are thousands and thousands of games where it is not present, why complain about a game where it is present and even optional as a choice? In this case, Eric is the real star of the game, without him the story would be flat and uninvolving.

It's always the noisy minority complaining about NTR... if Eric leaves the game ends like it happened in 100 % of cases in BB games around the world

Spoiler: If you are part of the noisy minority do not open it

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[firevoodoo]

No. It's about corrupting the family and of course the cameras ("big brother").

Eric wasn't there in the beginning. He was added at some point because some annoyingly loud people demanded NTR. But his content was always kinda weak. Most story arcs didn't include him at all and once he was removed from the house (on two paths) he didn't have any influence on anything of course. But even if you kept him around on the third path, he would not take part in the upcoming story arcs. He was just there for the sake of it.

That’s factually incorrect. Kira (NPC #4) and Eric (NPC#5) were both considered to be introduced in the demo.

Dark Silver is an early Telegram app enthusiast, his channel is dated to July 2016 when he was developing original Glamour. Later that year he put Glamour on hold and introduced Big Brother.

Here is the entry from 2016, Dec 10, 2.37 PM:

“The fourth character will be Kira, Max's aunt, his mother's younger sister. She will not be introduced immediately and she won't spend every night in the house but she’ll greatly affect family’s life when she is. She is almost without brakes but seems to understand the ultimate boundaries. Or so I hope. Family loves her very much but mother doubts Kira will be positive influence on her kids. You’ll learn about this and more from the game in due time. She plans to sleep in the living room, closer to the refrigerator and the TV (or projector to be precise). Did I mention she is almost without brakes?

I haven't decided yet whether she ‘ll be in demo or not. I'll make either 3 NPCs from the start or 5 (I’ll tell you about Eric another time). At the moment, all 3 NPC’s images are already in the game (both rendered and photoshoped). Max’s various activities still lack a number of images but that’s a separate issue. I'm going to start working with files and localization now. It is better to lay it all down in the initial stage than to redesign the entire system later on. I'll make the first build for testers after that.”

Original text in Russian:

Четвёртым персонажем в игре станет Кира, родная тётя Макса, младшая сестра его мамы. Появится она не сразу, но сильно повлияет на жизнь семьи. Комплексов почти нет, но границы разумного вроде бы представляет. Надеюсь. Вся семья очень её любит и лишь мать сомневается, что Кира может научить её детей чему-то хорошему. Но об этом и многом другом вы узнаете из игры, конечно. Ночевать в доме она будет не каждый день. Спать планирует в гостиной. Поближе к холодильнику и телевизору (а точнее, проектору). Да, я говорил, что она без комплексов?

Пока не решил, будет она в техно-демо или нет. Либо сделаю на старте 3 NPC, либо 5 (об Эрике расскажу в другой раз). На данный момент готовы (отрендерены, обработаны в фотошопе и вставлены в игру) все изображения для 3-х персонажей в игровых локациях. Ещё потребуется ряд изображений для различных действий Макса, но это отдельный вопрос. Сейчас займусь работой с файлами и локализацией. Лучше заложить её на начальном этапе, чем потом перекраивать всю систему. После этого сделаю первый билд для тестеров, а там посмотрим.

Btw, I remember back in the original Big Brother thread there was a link to Literotica story where MC was jealous of Mom's boyfriend, Eric… Sadly, I didn’t preserve that link and wasn't able to find it ever since. That short story (which I vaguely remember ended in a bisex trio or …worse) remarkably resembled Big Brother’s basic plot.

I still have that demo on my old NB but I’m too lazy to check out if Eric was there. Kira, obviously, was not, but they both were envisioned as major plot devices to move story forward.

In short: Eric was there from the very beginning.

 

[firevoodoo]

P.S. I always found all this NTR Holly War amazing up to the point when I realized some people associate themselves with MCs. Which blew my mind. I never ever did that even when I was little kid reading all those novels. Which I did like most Soviet kids before I went to school. I never associated myself with MCs, I always observed.

As for porn it is ultimately "NTR" anyway ether way you see it. Whatever story is, you sit with the cock in your hand (in an empty room, hopefully) while someone else does the girl, not you.

 

[seja10]

P.S. I always found all this NTR Holly War amazing up to the point when I realized some people associate themselves with MCs. Which blew my mind. I never ever did that even when I was little kid reading all those novels. Which I did like most Soviet kids before I went to school. I never associated myself with MCs, I always observed.

As for porn it is ultimately "NTR" anyway ether way you see it. Whatever story is, you sit with the cock in your hand (in an empty room, hopefully) while someone else does the girl, not you.

From your words, it turns out that in kindergarten, while all the children were playing in the sandbox, you read novels at the age of 6-7 years and did not put yourself in the place of the main character? Until your first literature lesson at school, you didn’t understand these novels. Maybe you were unique then there would be an article in the newspapers about you. ). I was also born in the Union in the sixties.

 

[Sturbuck]

I hope "Saves" from previous versions will be compatible with new update cause it's not easy game to play from the begining again and again..othwerwise we will part our ways with this game..

 

[firevoodoo]

From your words, it turns out that in kindergarten, while all the children were playing in the sandbox, you read novels at the age of 6-7 years and did not put yourself in the place of the main character? Until your first literature lesson at school, you didn’t understand these novels. Maybe you were unique then there would be an article in the newspapers about you. ). I was also born in the Union in the sixties.

I knew how to read and to do basic math before I went to school and I never considered it big deal.

I actually remember they taught us reading, writing and drawing in a kindergarden. Was yours any different?

The first novel I finished was “Tomek in the Land of the Kangaroos” by Alfred Szklarski.

Mom used to read it to us, to me and to my little sister by chapter every evening. I was always dying to learn what’s next so I tried to read it myself. I ended up reading chapters beforehand, spoiled it to my sister and mom stopped reading it to us. My sister had a grudge at me because of it. It was sort of stupid but I was 7.

 

[seja10]

I knew how to read and to do basic math before I went to school and I never considered it big deal.

I actually remember they taught us reading, writing and drawing in a kindergarden. Was yours any different?

The first novel I finished was “Tomek in the Land of the Kangaroos” by Alfred Szklarski.

Mom used to read it to us, to me and to my little sister by chapter every evening. I was always dying to learn what’s next so I tried to read it myself. I ended up reading chapters beforehand, spoiled it to my sister and mom stopped reading it to us. My sister had a grudge at me because of it. It was sort of stupid but I was 7.

We were also taught in kindergarten to read, write, draw and sculpt from plasticine. I've never even heard of such a book. If I offended you in any way, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. I don’t know English, and we’re not talking about the topic here. Good health to you, and the rest will follow!

 

[su wei]

I knew how to read and to do basic math before I went to school and I never considered it big deal.

I actually remember they taught us reading, writing and drawing in a kindergarden. Was yours any different?

The first novel I finished was “Tomek in the Land of the Kangaroos” by Alfred Szklarski.

Mom used to read it to us, to me and to my little sister by chapter every evening. I was always dying to learn what’s next so I tried to read it myself. I ended up reading chapters beforehand, spoiled it to my sister and mom stopped reading it to us. My sister had a grudge at me because of it. It was sort of stupid but I was 7.

One of the things that is sought after in an RPG is the immersion of the story, and the same is true of reading a novel, bringing yourself into the protagonist of the game, which is an ability to empathize with most people. Going back to this game, the player brings himself into the role of MAX, which is also one of the goals of the game producers. The game is told from MAX's point of view. It's one of the reasons why the game remains so popular. Of course, ERIC's role is to create a problem for the protagonist, and defeating him is an incentive for the player to continue playing. But that doesn't mean players want to be defeated. As a game that has been updated for a long time, it is a challenge to keep players from leaving the game because of frustration. This is why the game has been avoiding direct NTR behavior. ,

 

[Juanpe888]

someone can tell me where are the saves at the carpet???

 

[Noobie_Kennoobi]

I've been utterly stuck at "Head of the Family" opportunity, I was on the hostility path, everything has been done properly.

But, whenever I try approaching Ann at around 10:40 every weekday, she is only getting dressed and I can't move forward with any of the other ones until this is done. Could someone help.!! I'd even be okay if someone can send a renpy code that will let me bypass this in case I am unable to play this part.

 

[troll822]

How far are we in the story in update 5?

 

[Nemo56]

How far are we in the story in update 5?

Chapter 1 almost finished.
Max is still dreaming mostly, Alice has some spider content, Eric didn't show up yet.

 

[djdjpumpthisparty]

Again and again and again and again...