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Chaosguy

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This game is a disgrace. He restarted with the excuse of reworking the code for faster updates. But the reality of the game is just dreams scenes and milking subs.
That bugs me to. They could have just re-wrote the older code to optimize it, but no they had to do a total restart. Love the game, but this excuse it's stupid.
 

Nemo56

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It was not so much about the code, but the source files (layers and so on). The new file structure is better organized and standardized.

But I think we all agree that he completely misjudged the future development speed. At least we already got some extra stuff, more to come. Why he didn't just recreate what he had done so far ... dunno.
 

khumak

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That bugs me to. They could have just re-wrote the older code to optimize it, but no they had to do a total restart. Love the game, but this excuse it's stupid.
Yeah IMO what he should have done with the initial rebuild version is reuse his existing images instead of redoing them. Add new stuff using whatever new methods he decided on, and if he wanted to replace the old images, do that slowly as kind of a bit of an add on to whatever new development happened. So the rebuild would have started off already having as much content as the previous version and he could slowly replace the original images if he wanted to while he added new stuff.

If development speed had actually improved with the rebuild like he predicted then a full redo without reusing anything would have been fine and I don't think many would have complained if we were consistently getting bigger updates at a faster pace than before. But we're not.

I do like the game, but at current dev cycle it's going to take years before we have anything resembling a playable game rather than a tech demo.

An example of a rebuild done right IMO is LOP's rebuild of LWT. It used to be a flash game and had several expansions. First version of the rebuild came out using Renpy awhile ago and was basically just a tech demo with only about a week or 2 of playable content. It was kind of buggy and there wasn't that much to do yet but you could see their new systems and get a feel for how it would play when they got farther along.

Second version had most of the content from the full original game plus some of the expansions including some entirely new scenes, but mostly rewritten original scenes with the original images. Next version is supposed to be almost entirely caught up to the full version plus all of the expansions, and then they plan on adding a decent amount of entirely new content going forward from there.

Regardless whether you like LWT or not, THAT's how you do a rebuild IMO.
 
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Mysters90

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How many updates are left to close chapter 1?
There is one update left. It will probably be released at the end of August.

It was not so much about the code, but the source files (layers and so on). The new file structure is better organized and standardized.

But I think we all agree that he completely misjudged the future development speed. At least we already got some extra stuff, more to come. Why he didn't just recreate what he had done so far ... dunno.
New generation models, clothes, and so on were indeed an important aspect, but the code was paramount. The last testing of version 0.09 took about 2 weeks. And all further testing would take even more time.
Now, technically, nothing has changed, but the trick is to divide it into Chapters. You just test 6 updates of one Chapter, and then you start all over again.
However, the most important nuance is that the old version was not what Alexey wanted to create.
Interestingly, PornGodNoob does not have such testing problems.
By the way, the approximate time frame for the development of the entire game of five Chapters has been announced. This is 10 years, not 7.5 years, as I thought earlier:sneaky:
 

khumak

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However, the most important nuance is that the old version was not what Alexey wanted to create.
This part at least I can understand. If you as the dev don't like what you're creating then it's doomed to failure. So continuing the previous version would likely have just lead to it being abandoned. So from that standpoint the rebuild is a good thing.

Not sure what lead to him creating content he didn't like in the first place, but from my modding experience I suspect maybe he let his fans lead him astray and develop in a direction he personally didn't like. I tried that as well and it just doesn't work.
 

Nemo56

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Alice seems to be the center of CH1 indeed.
Ann will only start off once Eric arrives and Lisa could not go forther than watching movies anyway if that whole teaching thing is still going to take place in later chapters.

The new way of releasing the game in chapters (others call it seasons, same thing) requires some restructuring.
I thought Alexey would start off with bringing in Kira early, since she's the "easiest" one (you basically just tell her to drop her panties and she goes for it).
But if it's Alice ... I'm happy. But at the same time I fear a bit that later in the game she'll be neglected somewhat. I hope he won't run out of ideas what to do with her (in a story telling meaning, not sexual).
 
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Alice seems to be the center of CH1 indeed.
Ann will only start off once Eric arrives and Lisa could not go forther than watching movies anyway if that whole teaching thing is still going to take place in later chapters.

The new way of releasing the game in chapters (others call it seasons, same thing) requires some restructuring.
I thought Alexey would start off with bringing in Kira early, since she's the "easiest" one (you basically just tell her to drop her panties and she goes for it).
But if it's Alice ... I'm happy. But at the same time I fear a bit that later in the game she'll be neglected somewhat. I hope he won't run out of ideas what to do with her (in a story telling meaning, not sexual).
Yeah.In the original BB,the dev practically forget about Kira after update 5-6,and in last updates about Alice too.
 
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ra

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Anche questo mi dà fastidio. Avrebbero potuto semplicemente riscrivere il vecchio codice per ottimizzarlo, ma no, hanno dovuto fare un riavvio totale. Adoro il gioco, ma questa scusa è stupida.
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Exactly
 

ra

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I apologize for my bad English but I think that Patreon is the only place where you pay before the work is done I speak for myself when I go to work first I work and then they pay me on patron it works the other way around
 
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