Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.01] [Aleksey90]

[peshoni]

You kind of forget that Eric isn't the MC of the game, but instead Max is (or at least that was the game says). So making paths for Eric being in the game should be the other path that should be worked ocasionally, since the game goal is for MAx to get with the girls, keeping Eric in the game is just a way to slow down progresion with Max and the girls, so that's why Eric should be gone as soon as posible, so we can finally get the sex scenes and normal scenes centered around the MC, not a secondary character like Eric, who was only there because DS didn't understand how incest works and he thought that it was just watching your family fucking, so the original plan was to make an incest game, and in an incest game Eric has no place tbh.

At some scale you are right, i think there has to be way to get rid of Eric easy so Max can go fuck someone as fast as he can.
But there should be way to be with Eric, if you want good story Eric was first one to change Ann thinkings of some sexual things. Eric changed whole story if you ask me, who knows will Ann do anything that she done after Eric if he didnt change her. Her pespective about some thing in their incest sex things in family will be more efficient if he changes her more and that can be done by just making Eric better path

 

[Pantisocrat]

You kind of forget that Eric isn't the MC of the game, but instead Max is (or at least that was the game says). So making paths for Eric being in the game should be the other path that should be worked ocasionally, since the game goal is for MAx to get with the girls, keeping Eric in the game is just a way to slow down progresion with Max and the girls, so that's why Eric should be gone as soon as posible, so we can finally get the sex scenes and normal scenes centered around the MC, not a secondary character like Eric, who was only there because DS didn't understand how incest works and he thought that it was just watching your family fucking, so the original plan was to make an incest game, and in an incest game Eric has no place tbh.

No, I'm in no way confused about who the MC of the game is. I'm saying that Eric was originally meant to be a powerful villain the MC had to struggle to defeat (or could choose to co-operate with, but fuck that). That's a more interesting idea to me than just one more linear bone-your-family game. There's got to be fifty of those. None of them have an antagonist like Eric, who's actually a threat to you, who you can actually lose to if you mess up.

Beyond that, my point was that including Eric (enemy), Eric (friend) and Eric (paper tiger you effortlessly get rid of) means three story paths instead of only two, which, as I said, makes it more likely this game will be abandoned. Multiple paths seem to be very challenging and it always makes me nervous when a dev talks about them.

 

[Mayonesa]

At some scale you are right, i think there has to be way to get rid of Eric easy so Max can go fuck someone as fast as he can.
But there should be way to be with Eric, if you want good story Eric was first one to change Ann thinkings of some sexual things. Eric changed whole story if you ask me, who knows will Ann do anything that she done after Eric if he didnt change her. Her pespective about some thing in their incest sex things in family will be more efficient if he changes her more and that can be done by just making Eric better path

Eric didn't really change Ann that much, she was like that because of her past and Kira explains it to the MC, so Eric only exploit the past of Ann to do what he wish with her.

That said, I don't mind if the dev makes a path with Eric, but it shouldn't be the focus of the game and in the end it will complicate things, because after we have the chance to get rid of Eric, if the dev still has a path with Eric there it will mean one or two things:

1- Longer update times to have an update where you can play content with and without Eric.
or
2- Updates centered about one path, but then no one will be happy.
So in the end it should be easier for the dev if no matter the path you have to get rid of Eric to progress story, since again, this isn't a NTR centered game but an incest one.

But we will have to wait and see, I would have prefered a path where we can choose to not have Eric there at all but it didn't happen sadly.

 

[peshoni]

Beyond that, my point was that including Eric (enemy), Eric (friend) and Eric (paper tiger you effortlessly get rid of) means three story paths instead of only two, which, as I said, makes it more likely this game will be abandoned. Multiple paths seem to be very challenging and it always makes me nervous when a dev talks about them.

I think there should be two paths enemy and friend.
Enemy path gives you many options also for Friend but in the end you can get rid of him on both paths.
At Enemy you are finding way throught that he knows you are looking about him, how to get rid of him.
And as Friend he thinks you are his friend, share girls with you but you are making a plan to fuck him up and get all he have even his company.

Also there shoud be way to spy your house whan anyone have sex with cameras.

 

[Mayonesa]

No, I'm in no way confused about who the MC of the game is. I'm saying that Eric was originally meant to be a powerful villain the MC had to struggle to defeat (or could choose to co-operate with, but fuck that). That's a more interesting idea to me than just one more linear bone-your-family game. There's got to be fifty of those. None of them have an antagonist like Eric, who's actually a threat to you, who you can actually lose to if you mess up.

Beyond that, my point was that including Eric (enemy), Eric (friend) and Eric (paper tiger you effortlessly get rid of) means three story paths instead of only two, which, as I said, makes it more likely this game will be abandoned. Multiple paths seem to be very challenging and it always makes me nervous when a dev talks about them.

The point is that in game villains are there for the "hero" to overcome them and then go away. The villain should have his uses in making the game "interesting" but after a time he should dissapear. Making a path where the villain wins wasn't the original intent of the game, as I said Eric was in the original BB because DS thought that incest mean seeing your family members fucking. Since this is an incest game and there is a villain, the goal of the MC should be get rid of the villain not befriend him.

 

[Mayonesa]

Look, I get what you're saying, but, hear me out... what would be a ballsier move? Getting rid of Eric and try to get it on with the girls, or, keeping Eric and, wait for it, fuck dem bitches behind his back. I'd rather fuck Ann while Eric's crying on the toilet, than get rid of him in some sneaky, backstabby way (you didn't even outsmart Eric in the original game, you went crying like a little bitch to people who did have the power to get rid of him).

That being said, I have no problem doubleteaming Ann with Eric as well, so I do hope a friendship route will give me that option.

I don't really like seeing the LI of a game fucking with others tbh. so I will never like seeing Eric fucking with a girl not even if we are there participating, for me the better Eric is the Eric gone. Fucking the girls behind Eric's back it's fine and all, but even if he is crying he can later on try something, he is a threat and the sooner you deal with threats the better.

But I also think there should be a way in this "new version of BB" where we as the MC are the ones who takes care of Eric without involving others.

 

[Pantisocrat]

The point is that in game villains are there for the "hero" to overcome them and then go away. The villain should have his uses in making the game "interesting" but after a time he should dissapear. Making a path where the villain wins wasn't the original intent of the game, as I said Eric was in the original BB because DS thought that incest mean seeing your family members fucking. Since this is an incest game and there is a villain, the goal of the MC should be get rid of the villain not befriend him.

I agree befriending him sucks, but in most stories, the villain isn't defeated until the end.

 

[SuddenReal]

The point is that in game villains are there for the "hero" to overcome them and then go away. The villain should have his uses in making the game "interesting" but after a time he should dissapear. Making a path where the villain wins wasn't the original intent of the game, as I said Eric was in the original BB because DS thought that incest mean seeing your family members fucking. Since this is an incest game and there is a villain, the goal of the MC should be get rid of the villain not befriend him.

Actually, the point of a villain in a game is to beat him and thus win the game. Do you know how many games tried to copy BB? A fuckton! Other than Man of the House and School, Love and Cousins Friends, none of them succeeded, because they didn't have a decent story. As much as you may hate it, Eric WAS that story. Defeat him and win the game. Face it, after Eric was kicked out, BB devolved into a copy of one of those copies of BB. The end-goal of defeating Eric was replaced by a dumb "let's make a porn" plot. I'm not saying the villain has to win, but you can't just kick out the villain and continue without one. That turns it into a different story, one that may fail (as the original BB did).

 

[Mayonesa]

Actually, the point of a villain in a game is to beat him and thus win the game. Do you know how many games tried to copy BB? A fuckton! Other than Man of the House and School, Love and Cousins Friends, none of them succeeded, because they didn't have a decent story. As much as you may hate it, Eric WAS that story. Defeat him and win the game. Face it, after Eric was kicked out, BB devolved into a copy of one of those copies of BB. The end-goal of defeating Eric was replaced by a dumb "let's make a porn" plot. I'm not saying the villain has to win, but you can't just kick out the villain and continue without one. That turns it into a different story, one that may fail (as the original BB did).

Let's face it, Ds wasn't a really good dev, he didn't understand the kinks,he keep changing how the girls behave, he didn't know how to continue scenes, forgot about plot points that later got resolved in a bad way, he got mad because his game was leaked and changed the plot with the girls, from romance to shit, he kept delaying Lisa's sexual scenes because reasons, he did a really grind game, he kept getting mad that his game was leaked until he decided to drop the game, etc. So knowing that, it's easy to see that he didn't know what to do with his game and made a really bad plot that was the "let's do porn".

But that doesn't mean that Eric was done fine, he was just a walking cockblocker, a way to move the plot with the girls, a really bad one, he doesn't have a great story, let's not make it like he was a blessing in the original game and that he bring a really good story because he doesn't. He is just an easy way to make a challenge, to make the game a bit different from others, but he wasn't that great. He may be the villain but he was there to delay the sex scenes of Max with the girls, nothing more.

There are other ways to make a game "interesting" without needing a villain, in fact he wasn't needed at all in the game. If he was there to make Max feel threatened, there are other ways to make it than making a villain how gets the girls like Ann easily while the hero strugles to see a tit. If he was there to make Max realice he needs to up the game if he wants something with the girls in his family, he also failed at that, since Kira introduced the idea of incest to Max, she helps him and other things, so why is Eric needed? If it's because of the competition, there are other ways to make obstacles with better plot development than Eric so...

 

[Mikuby]

Actually, the point of a villain in a game is to beat him and thus win the game. Do you know how many games tried to copy BB? A fuckton! Other than Man of the House and School, Love and Cousins Friends, none of them succeeded, because they didn't have a decent story. As much as you may hate it, Eric WAS that story. Defeat him and win the game. Face it, after Eric was kicked out, BB devolved into a copy of one of those copies of BB. The end-goal of defeating Eric was replaced by a dumb "let's make a porn" plot. I'm not saying the villain has to win, but you can't just kick out the villain and continue without one. That turns it into a different story, one that may fail (as the original BB did).

What part about Eric was a good story? The one where he is there to kick out Max so he can later on kick the other womans there, maybe fucking them as a bonus before kicking them and then keep the house and all the things to live with his wife? Because that was the plot moving Eric, that was what he intended to do in the original. That's such a great story, 10/10 on IGN as best plot device, plot progresion and is such a huge story that really blowns your mind.

Saying that Eric brings to BB a great story to make it a good game is a bit too much, since he is a really bad character, bad writen, his motives makes no sense, his power went over 9000 in the original and so on. So please let's not say he was great and a super nice thing to add to your game to make it gret because he wasn't and won't be even a well made character.

 

[alefrago]

What part about Eric was a good story? The one where he is there to kick out Max so he can later on kick the other womans there, maybe fucking them as a bonus before kicking them and then keep the house and all the things to live with his wife? Because that was the plot moving Eric, that was what he intended to do in the original. That's such a great story, 10/10 on IGN as best plot device, plot progresion and is such a huge story that really blowns your mind.

Saying that Eric brings to BB a great story to make it a good game is a bit too much, since he is a really bad character, bad writen, his motives makes no sense, his power went over 9000 in the original and so on. So please let's not say he was great and a super nice thing to add to your game to make it gret because he wasn't and won't be even a well made character.

ok man, dont be sad...dont play it if you dont like it...you cant convince all the others the most people enjoy playing a more interesting game

 

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[humanno21]

What is the purpose of this? I don't really understand? What is different (better) than in original?

 

[alefrago]

patreon comment at previous kira post ,as me(at this time yet) :

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Can't waaait for Kira. I hope that classic scene with her an Eric gets animated. Would be perfect for it.
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yeaa

 

[alefrago]

What is the purpose of this? I don't really understand? What is different (better) than in original?

i can see a real effort to make the game richer more interesting with more ntr and villains maybe, an another better situation...not to be story just a boy corrupting his family and others giving cakes, maybe this mc can be the necessary silly character so the true protagonists will be all the others and the corrupting stories among them..lets see... dont know for you but at the first bb after eric was kicked out, was really bored, nothing interesting, the game itself abandoned after that too..would not like to see that end to this story too..ok

 

[dikdik48]

any news for update?

don't tell me about the BB Another from the another story version.

 

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[dikdik48]

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let me help you dude

 

[CyberVamp]

would it be possible to post these pics

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[humanno21]

What is better at this point to play, Glamour Max path, or this?