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Mikuby

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So at first you can't avoid the NTR with the mom, but later you can put a stop to it by getting Eric out of the picture? but in doing so will limit your dominance over the other girls and make you a sub? But if you want to stay dominant with the other girls you will have to let Eric stay around a bit longer in which he will continue doing shit with the mom?
And so far the mom is the only one that has NTR right now?
We don't know how will the paths act right now other than war path, in the end of the path Eric is gone, and friend path, Eric is there to stay. If you kick him fast, according to the dev note, it will seem that you limit your content later on, all the dominant content, so sub. And if you go the extended war path, you kick Eric later on but it seems that you won't limit yourself from dominant content later on, that's all the info we got.

The mom is the only forced NTR of the game, since you can do nothing to stop her from getting with Eric. You can only start to do things with her when you kick Eric, or maybe in the friend path, that's based in the original. Also you could in the original use pills or something on Eric to make him impotent and so stop him from fucking the mom until you kick him. But that's not in this game yet, so I don't know how it will play. The only forced NTR is with the Mom, the others you can stop it from happening.
 

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We don't know how will the paths act right now other than war path, in the end of the path Eric is gone, and friend path, Eric is there to stay. If you kick him fast, according to the dev note, it will seem that you limit your content later on, all the dominant content, so sub. And if you go the extended war path, you kick Eric later on but it seems that you won't limit yourself from dominant content later on, that's all the info we got.

The mom is the only forced NTR of the game, since you can do nothing to stop her from getting with Eric. You can only start to do things with her when you kick Eric, or maybe in the friend path, that's based in the original. Also you could in the original use pills or something on Eric to make him impotent and so stop him from fucking the mom until you kick him. But that's not in this game yet, so I don't know how it will play. The only forced NTR is with the Mom, the others you can stop it from happening.
Alright then I'll just keep an eye on this one till something comes along the line of stopping what Eric does either on a different path or with the pills, but as you've said its not in the game yet, as it stands right now, its not for me but I'll keep watch in the meantime, thx again.
 

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Isn't more dominant to kick/defeat your enemy in a fast way and merciless?
Yes... yes it's more dominant to go ask someone to get rid of your enemy that's too big for you to handle rather than plan and undermine them and do it yourself.

Wait...

Nothing good comes from prolonguing a war, but here it's ok and that's dumb, would you let time to your enemy to plot against you and do things to you or your family, when you could have get rid of him earlier?
You're right, but that doesn't apply here. The war has already been fought, Ann has already been conquered. Eric isn't the enemy, he's the victor (no pun intended). Max is not some opponent he has to beat, he's just part of the spoils. Max doesn't need to be plotted against, he's not important enough, just a small pawn that can swiftly be dealt with. Max is the resistance. He's the one that does the plotting, the one that will come back stronger. Eric won't even know what he's up against until it is too late.

Just saying that defeating your enemy faster is always better and show more dominance than letting him be and later deal with him.
Again, you're right, but Max is a scrawny eighteen year old high school drop out, who's up against someone who's not only physically bigger, but also is successful in life. Max has to beg his mom for cash, Eric makes more than enough on his own. Max has no prospect in life, Eric is high ranking on the corporate ladder. Max is a jealous and hormonal teen who has a grudge against Eric "for no apparent reason", Eric helps others because he's a nice guy. Even if you somehow manage to kick Eric out yourself in a awesome display of dominance, you still won't get the spoils, because the others will not perceive it as "saving them" (from what, exactly, a nice guy who's helping them when they needed it?) but as the actions of a petty, moody teenager who couldn't stand someone who's got his shit together came into their life.
 

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Max is a jealous and hormonal teen who has a grudge against Eric "for no apparent reason", Eric helps others because he's a nice guy.
No reason, nice guy, told Max he is going to cheat on his mom by fucking his sisters, then Max finds out he plains to steal the house. Oh yeah Eric is a great guy, don't you want him dating your mom.

The first is an Alliance with Eric.
You will be able to see how he'll mess up Max's family.
 
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No reason, nice guy, told Max he is going to cheat on his mom by fucking his sisters, then Max finds out he plains to steal the house. Oh yeah Eric is a great guy, don't you want him dating your mom.
What is there not to like, honest man, nice guy.
 

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No reason, nice guy, told Max he is going to cheat on his mom by fucking his sisters, then Max finds out he plains to steal the house. Oh yeah Eric is a great guy, don't you want him dating your mom.
Yeah, but his family doesn't know that. Everything I said was in perspective of his family, and they have no reason to assume Eric is not on the level. The whole reason why Eric does tell his plan to Max is just to prove how low Max is on his radar. He perceives Max as insignificant. It's the "you're unable to stop me so I'll tell you the full plan, just so you know how futile your efforts are" villain monologue.

Let's take it into extremes: let's say you can kill baby Hitler. From your perspective, you saved over ten million people, from everyone's else point of view, you're a psycho that just killed an innocent baby.
 

maxbishup

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Yeah, but his family doesn't know that. Everything I said was in perspective of his family, and they have no reason to assume Eric is not on the level. The whole reason why Eric does tell his plan to Max is just to prove how low Max is on his radar. He perceives Max as insignificant. It's the "you're unable to stop me so I'll tell you the full plan, just so you know how futile your efforts are" villain monologue.

Let's take it into extremes: let's say you can kill baby Hitler. From your perspective, you saved over ten million people, from everyone's else point of view, you're a psycho that just killed an innocent baby.
Yeah, but just like Eric that would be one dead innocent baby.
By the way, I plan to take Eric out the long way, not for more content, or to be dominant. Just to make him suffer, and a sweeter kill. (Ok I doubt we will get to kill him) (I hope we will get to kill him) (We won't get to kill him) Come on Aleksey at lest let me hit him in the face, 47 times with a tire iron, just to wipe that shit eating grin of. Ok I'm only joking, I hope we can all enjoy playing the game. (Eric/No Eric) (NTR/No NTR) The arguments will out last the earth I'm sure.
 

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From Aleksey in PM
There will be available version of the game with the opportunity to get an interesting interaction of the characters that are already open in the game through a special menu, as well as the ability to view a gallery of photos from photo shoots that will be Max (there are many). As well as very hot previews.

Ok, so I'm not sure when this will be implemented into the game, no update number. He said full 0.04 update was voted in, so I think next update, in about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
 

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There will be available version of the game with the opportunity to get an interesting interaction of the characters that are already open in the game through a special menu, as well as the ability to view a gallery of photos from photo shoots that will be Max (there are many). As well as very hot previews.

Ok, so I'm not sure when this will be implemented into the game, no update number. He said full 0.04 update was voted in, so I think next update, in about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
 

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all patreons ask for more eric content, maxi begging 3 times a day the developer team, wishing see more max content at patreon page...you could not stop laughing if you could see that..its worthwhile i think even for 1 euro if you have the possibility even if you dont like the game.. :ROFLMAO: i really like the game believe it...ok
 
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There will be available version of the game with the opportunity to get an interesting interaction of the characters that are already open in the game through a special menu, as well as the ability to view a gallery of photos from photo shoots that will be Max (there are many). As well as very hot previews.

Ok, so I'm not sure when this will be implemented into the game, no update number. He said full 0.04 update was voted in, so I think next update, in about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.
Too much broken english, can't really understand what he's saying... :unsure: There will be photo shoots with the girls ? Like, an ingame event ?
 

maxbishup

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all patreons ask for more eric content, maxi begging 3 times a day the developer team, wishing see more max content at patreon page...you could not stop laughing if you could see that..its worthwhile i think even for 1 euro if you have the possibility even if you dont like the game.. :ROFLMAO: i really like the game believe it...ok
Not one PATREON (That I have seen) has ask for more Eric. Max is in all content(He's the MC) So, no I have never ask for any Max content. But if you need to see more Eric.
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Too much broken english, can't really understand what he's saying... :unsure: There will be photo shoots with the girls ? Like, an ingame event ?
Ok, that's what I took from it, but not sure ether. My question to Aleksey was about donating at a higher tier. At this time $20 is the highest tier, there may be a $30 tier later on in the game.
 
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alefrago

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lie again...i have in mind when i have time a day to post some patreon posts and dev post for the game(news-information)..its over 80% the patreon posts about more eric or alliance eric , game with eric..anyway i really respect those who want more only max or no vilain ,eric (etc)...would be more honest too when you inform post content news from the game, to do that as the posts are full, not just what is more preferable to you..kill kill kill eric eric your signal months now...the true is mainly about eric the game hopefully
 
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lie again...i have in mind when i have time a day to post some patreon posts and dev post for the game(news-information)..its over 80% the patreon posts about more eric or alliance eric , game with eric..anyway i really respect those who want more only max or no vilain ,eric (etc)...would be more honest too when you inform post content news from the game, to do that as the posts are full, not just what is more preferable to you..kill kill kill eric eric your signal months now...the true is mainly about eric the game hopefully
What are you talking about?
There is almost no comments on Patreon's posts.Usually there is only like 4-5 comments.We have some posts without even a single comment.
 
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sharing some patreon posts and developer post-information for the game at patreon page (not presented here or hidden)
think i can see a very limited posts and comments yet at page....i think there will be more more( hopefully for the success, enjoyment of the game)

Developer posts:


Big Brother will return, but as a new story. It will share many similarities to the original, and will also include new gameplay features and storylines.

We are developing with Ren'Py to give us greater capabilities to introduce things such as animation, as well as range of new technical additions.

Lets start with the interface.



The new interface is more or less complete. The bulk of our time is now spent working on the new relationship mechanics.

They key thing is that the project is moving forward depsite the quantity of work being very large. Once the current build has been sufficiently debugged, we will release the demo.


Adding Eric to the game.



But Eric is a necessary evil with an important mission. Thanks to the appearance of Eric, Max learns That there can be another life, that it is possible to dominate, to be an alpha male.

Max was left without a father, surrounded by his own women, and in such an environment, he could not have developed into anything more than a henpecked man who spies on everyone. Eric sets the direction of this game, the meaning, and already the players decide which way to go.

For v0.02, a lot of time was spent working on Max's laptop and shaping the game's economy. In addition, Eric was introduced to the game, but for a complete and well-established system of character relationships and influence on them, you need to try out several options for mechanics and ideas, which will take a lot of time, so this system will only appear in v0.03.

I was planning to stretch out the fight with Eric on v0.03 and v0.04, and possibly v0.05, but I'm not sure you have the patience for this. Although I planned to introduce animation in v0.03, but given the fact that I need to develop many of the original and new opportunities of the game as quickly as possible, as well as introduce Kira into the game, the relationship with which will be very different from the original and will contain much more events, I will have to wait with animation.

In v0.03, it was planned to perform spying on characters through cameras, but it looks like this will be moved to v0.04.

Now in v0.03, I will focus on working with the opportunities and mechanics of fighting Eric. It sounds pretty simple, but it will contain a huge mountain of work, even though the original game is at hand. I just hope that you have the patience to support my work during this long period of creating the basic Foundation of the game.

Several animations will be added.

So far, we haven't been able to work on the interaction with Eric, so this will be given attention in v0.04, as well as the arrival of aunt Kira.

Two troubles came at the same time. I got infected with СOVID-19 and an important piece of equipment for working on the game failed.

In this regard, work on the game is now much slower than it should be. And it is still difficult to say when it will normalize.

There are two options for what will happen with the scheduled release: either there will be a pre-releasewithout aunt Kira (since much is still not finished with her) in the area of the first days of June, or there will be a full release, but in 3 weeks at least. This will be followed by a survey.

The pre-release version will include all the improvements up to the moment when aunt Kira arrives.

- additional camera angles during many of the sneak peeks;

- possibility to massage Alice's feet on the sofa;

- the morning incidents with Lisa;

- massage for lessons with Lisa;

- ability to choose clothes for characters;

- the ability to release a spider during Alice's massage in the yard;

- fixed minor errors during lessons with Lisa;

- fixed a bug with Alice's very frequent punishments.

A little bit about the plot options...

If we talk about the main storyline in the game, it will contain two directions.

The first is an Alliance with Eric.

You will be able to see how he'll mess up Max's family. Also, if you behave yourself and help Eric do it, you can even participate in this corruption.

And if you are very impudent and take risks, you will get something without Eric.

The second is the confrontation with Eric.

This option is divided into two more parts, simple and complex extended.

The first simple part is getting rid of Eric as quickly as possible. You will have a number of options for this deliverance.

But this path will limit you in some further opportunities and actions related to the dominance of Max in his family and over other characters.

The second difficult extended part is a longer confrontation with Eric, thanks to which max will have the opportunity to develop and consolidate his influence in the family and get rid of Eric.

This part will maximize opportunities and actions for Max.

The game will have 3 moments when you can change direction. When you first meet Eric, you can also change the direction of your choice. Then a week after they met.

As well as when reaching the "point of no return" with each character of Max's family.



patreon posts:

Hey. And can you basically describe the roadmap of your version? Nevertheless, there are already attempts at mods, they are developing mainly cafes and a porn studio ... On the same Eric, and everything that happens then is "slaughtered"

Literally only a NTR game. All the sex is NTR

coooooooll

Eric is needed in the game at least to give the game and Max meaning. If there were no factor of struggle, jealousy, domination (which brings with it Eric), then Max being in an all-female team could only become henpecked, and at best so would peep and masturbate.

Thanks for adding Eric back bro, make a route where you can work with him and turn ann into a bimbo 2

Hope you can make all the routes triggerable. There was always glitches with the old game where you would lose a route if not triggered in time. 2

There is still a lot to create so that the confrontation with Eric can be fully developed. Well, if I can finish this fight in 3 updates. And in General, how much Eric's role will be large or small depends on the player's actions.

At last some great Community Management on top of great game development! Bless you!

A short and simple, but necessary evil sounds like a nice compromise.

So I hope that you will still implement your original plans about fighting Eric at a later stage, so that this fight can be more detailed :)

If I had to list areas where the game failed on so many levels I’ll put them below 1) Counters to Eric - in the original game there was literally zero way to counter Eric until something like 0.5 which made a lot of people hate the character because early on there was no way to win 2) The cameras in the original game were a huge missed opportunity and it’s good to see this being rectified in this version.

Likewise you could have a trust stat between Max and Eric (this one is mainly for Eric fans but Eric haters could use it as well) we all knew Eric’s plan in the original game, what if he comes to Max for advice and you can either help him or set him up for a fall... the higher the trust between the two of them the more likely he is to take your advice... example he asks Max what Alice’s favourite chocolates are you can either give him the right answer which increases trust or the wrong answer and it backfires on him and he gets into trouble with one of the girls (Lisa or Alice). If you implement counters at every turn for Eric it will satisfy the fans of the game and please Eric haters and will also give the game a bigger challenge

I will say that about 85% of this is what I'm going to do.2

Aleksey90 that’s some excellent news, it’ll make things way more interesting and make a lot of fans happy

I wanted to join Eric. Sexa....

Eric was the main antagonist, and I hope he remains a viable, long-term threat. I always play two routes, alpha and beta cuck. Why? Because hopefully this means twice as much action to view. I am not the MC, never will be. I don't project myself into the game. I am just here for a good game with great renders. And if something happens in the game, I would like to see it happen. I counsel the dev to pursue his vision, just amke sure there is no off screen action.1


Way to go!! can not wait to see it in game. I hope max will spank her to.

Great news about animations.2

Oh boy excited to see how you remaster the Eric content in the next version.

more eric! :p

Can’t wait it so nice that you remake bb to whole another level hope that this won’t be abandon again

More Alice guys <3 :)2

Can’t wait the updates more Eric pleaseeee

Looks amazing Aleksey, can't wait for the update 2

The news about the game though is really interesting, having these three plot options is what a lot of fans of the original game wanted, that’s smart plot development and ingenuity right there, hoping you can execute these plans as well as you describe them, it’s just sounding extremely promising from all angles

Can't waaait for Kira. I hope that classic scene with her an Eric gets animated. Would be perfect for it.3


There will be a lot of difficulties along these paths, but I think I can handle it.3

I wish you all the best with it, the vision you have for this remake is well worthy of financial support, showing more experienced folks how it should be done. Big fan of your work

Very nice work the separation of eric management...i choose surely the alliance path with eric ...be healthy friend...thanks1

Dude, get well soon! You take care of you first. I will vote for delayed full release. I like that you are getting into the Eric confrontation. I wish you could introduce Kira as a competitor as well, much along the lines of Eric (except less evil). Whatever paths you put in, have no action happen off screen! If Eric is corrupting the ladies, show it!

Off screen activity was a massive oversight in the original game, also a logical oversight considering cameras were streaming from those rooms others could see but Max couldn’t

+1 on the way you chose to introduce and evict Eric. giving the opportunity to get rid of him quickly to answer prayers from people who've been asking for this since the OG game, BUT giving more content as a reward if you go the hard way. Clever. Really looking forward to the friend route. I hope there will be LOTS more content than in the OG game under your pencil. (Are more polls coming up about content on thsi route or do you have your plans clearly designed ?). Get well soon!1

Still the best game out there, and your making it better. just wish it would be a little faster.





surely dont want to kick out the only max-family route, most surely you will not kick out all the others
(just sharing the true facts) hope all to enjoy the game from their side really, for that i think was the best idea from the developer team to make the separation eric routes too

keep wearing the green head its ok, ketchup is better than mayoneza, trust me ;)


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