Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.01] [Aleksey90]

[maxbishup]

I agree. I'm not a fan of Erik but without this "character" the game would be too linear and without plots to force Max to fight for his "girls"

Yes, but where is this fight, I keep hearing about. I'm all about a fight, but with Eric there is no fight. Friend or enemy, no fight. Really is a phone call, a fight. Let's face it, the ones that talk about a challenge, are friends with Eric, they only want NTR not a challenge. Even if your enemies, it's only about grind, go here go there, look on pc, make a phone call. Max's only challenge, comes from the girls, not Eric. Eric serves only one purpose, NTR. Now if you like it that's fine, if not get rid of him. But don't waste your time, looking to Eric for a fight, its not there.

 

[Manifold]

NTR as a term has been used, abused, misused, and basically imposed on forums like this one by people who hate sharing, not by people who don't mind it, or eventually enjoy it, once it's there.

Sure, there are games where the main focus is cuckholding, humiliation, etc, but it never was the case here in BB. Max was never tied up and forced to watch by Eric, nor do the female characters laugh at him while having sex with Eric (only in some fan art).

Anti-NTR people must admit that for the last decades of its existence, porn supposes women sleep with several men. Sure, we're talking about a game, but please, don't think anyone who doesn't mind NTR is actively seeking it, demands it, puts up a hysterical fit if there isn't enough of it. We just don't give a damn who women sleep with, as long as it's well filmed, drawn, or rendered.

The real issue is whether you want to be emotionally involed in a porn game or not. Those who don't mind NTR, and eventually find it exciting and fun that women sleep around in a porn story are people who simply aren't here to become emotionally involved in what remains relatively stupid porn stories, but basically just have a nice toss.

 

[Lalelilolu]

Even the forum is more fun with Erick

 

[badi90]

personally. I think the environment of the game is best of there is . a family moving to a new city and a new home . a a mother in a relationship that's moving fast . and so on .. but the uses of the situation is lacking . and the reasoning to . especially for eric . there should be a back story for him . like he actually planned to con before Max moved to his new home . and in a way he corrupted even mc . "making a deal of swinging with his mother and sister " which gives mc a reason for what hes doing . if u agree"freindship path " at first will help him later on u work on ur own . if u refuse him "war path" it will be a race . like in each event if u dont have skill ,money, and/or enough trust with the girls they start the same event but with eric .
this jest my personal opinion. and I think it have more ending roots . more options. and less people complain about eric .
sorry about bad English.

 

[Fruits_punch_samurai_21]

personally i really liked that corruption path in "making a deal of swinging with his mother and sister " . i want to explore that path.i have already played the previous version during that time i tried to explore that route but unfortunately the game didnt explored that path further.. i hope this version might .. i understand that lot of ppl hate eric but i would love to see this path.

 

[nim]

Even the forum is more fun with Erick

Well said! A little NTR, "Eric and Max share all the women" might be a great idea. It would be different from the host of BB mods.

 

[xw1]

Who is Eric??^^

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Eric, who the f@ck is Eric?

 

[.Black Panther.]

I'm not a fan of Eric, I hate him. But as long as there is a way to completely stop him in front of others, I have no problem with his presence in the game. In other words, as long as I can fully stand against him, it does not matter to me whether he is in the game or not, how long he is in the game or how he leaves the game. There will certainly be many challenges along the way that will make the game even more exciting. It will be a lot of fun to see Eric's futile efforts against MC, or being harassed by MC (like a cat playing with its food). But on condition that all the efforts of the MC reach the desired goal, not that it is forced to accept some cases.
This is a personal opinion and I am not the only player of this game.
Whether we like it or not, Eric is currently in the game. The issue is how to deal with this game character. This game has two story lines. Each of these story lines of this game can be designed in such a way as to keep its fans satisfied.

 

[Shiva0067]

So, once again I'll try to give a history/explanation of (EVIL Scum) Eric and the life and times of BB. Gonna spoiler cause it gets a bit long. If you have no interest then PLEASE skip this. I am NOT attacking anyone, if you like Eric then that's your feelings and hey go you. I do NOT like him, I want him gone. My feelings MAY color this, but I will TRY to be fairish.

Spoiler: Life and times of Original BB

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OK, that's my abbreviated take on the ORIGINAL Saga.

I have so far enjoyed this version of the story, and hope that it continues and becomes BETTER than the original. As long as the 'Eric is Friend' path is separated so I can avoid it then I don't mind much. Are there currently things that I dislike or would want to see changed in this game? Yes, but I accept them and can still enjoy.

Sadly, this post will NOT settle anything or calm the arguments/disputes about Eric. I know that I skipped some things, but feel I was accurate for the most part. Some will want to argue that I am wrong about some of the things in this post or may declare that I don't understand the reasons for events. I have posted my thoughts and feelings on this matter and am (hopefully) done being serious.

Just some thoughts.

P.S. Next post will cover the IMPORTANT topic of including Chocolate Chip cookies in Adult Games. Also, stay tuned for my 101 reasons that Max NEEDS to swim during the Daytime.

 

[Deleted member 451676]

How the fuck are there still arguments about Eric? Like goddamn.

 

[NotSoCool]

How the fuck are there still arguments about Eric? Like goddamn.

Because he's the brightest part of the game - not bad, not good, just the most eye-catching (and still very, very poorly implemented).
Without him, the game became just click-click-fuck, click-click-fuck ..
My theory is that in the original version, Eric did not go anywhere, he just changed his gender and became Kira. More precisely, Kira became the female version of Eric. She became the "key" to all women .

 

[armion82]

Because he's the brightest part of the game - not bad, not good, just the most eye-catching (and still very, very poorly implemented).
Without him, the game became just click-click-fuck, click-click-fuck ..
My theory is that in the original version, Eric did not go anywhere, he just changed his gender and became Kira. More precisely, Kira became the female version of Eric. She became the "key" to all women .

If you forget in the original Kira also disappear from the game.Yes she was there but after the middle of the game there is no content with her at all.Another great mistake.

 

[L0thar]

How the fuck are there still arguments about Eric? Like goddamn.

Because Eric is like a hiccup. Unwanted but keeps coming back

 

[HVS3]

all the talk in the world but no one is talking about the mystery of the house thats sopose to b in the game. the house was the fathers & came with 1 preinstalled cam. so why was the house build? also who & why was the cam installed? & where is the father? no one is asking any of these question or answering them.

 

[Krugger]

People don't hate Eric, they hate NTR. If for example you remove Eric from the game and put a character that flirts with Lisa for example and make Max fight for her, players will hate it. Thousands of games are successful without NTR, but have you noticed that these games are successful due to renderings and animations? Big Brother was successful because of his fetish, in fact, all the characters seemed very familiar which led to a good game of real incest. I think the hype for this game is being shattered, not because of the developer but by the community. Most people are tired of seeing an MC who has a honey cock and that all women fall on their knees on it. And then people say, if you're not satisfied, choose another game. Good idea, because whoever loses is the developer and not the guy who is supporting your project. I played the recent version, and to tell you the truth, I didn't feel like going any further. When I played the version of Dark Silver I would like to see certain things in the game, but when I play that version it seems that I am playing that original game again. Anyway, it's pathetic to fight over NTR, the game was originally made to have NTR, it was made to have an interesting script, something that would make the player get involved with the story and have fun with it, in addition to enjoying it the good porn game.

 

[SomeOldFart]

Eric needs to live and be seducing Alice as much as possible behind the Moms back. Only Max will know and he can either help Eric or go nuts because no one believes him when he tells on them. Alice should have Eric help with her sex cam after Max helps her set it up just to add to the NTR, all while the Mom is oblivious while taking a bath or by Eric making her stay at the office and work while he comes and visits Alice during the day.

Max can find ways to fuck with them if he wants to try and stop their affair or not.

 

[SomeOldFart]

Not to mention, in the first original BB, after Eric was cut out of the game, the story went to shit.

 

[lexus]

Well said! A little NTR, "Eric and Max share all the women" might be a great idea. It would be different from the host of BB mods.

Agree

 

[maxbishup]

Wow, I get it now, NTR lovers, just want a challenge. This is indeed good news. Eric has been so much trouble for the dev. Now he can forget Eric and NTR. Just put a challenge in the game, everyone's happy that way. I'll inform Aleksey, right away. Don't worry, I'll give full credit to all those here, that informed me about this. Thank you.

 

[khumak]

Honestly I don't think the reason matters. Personally, I don't like NTR but I do like having a worthy adversary. So as long as I can beat him I do enjoy the challenge of it. I think most people who want NTR are going to lose to Eric on purpose though, which is also fine if that's what they like.

Where devs run into problems is when they make it so this rival is either guaranteed to win or guaranteed to lose. That's when people start getting irritated by it. In that scenario either the NTR fans or the vanilla fans are guaranteed to not get what they want.

I think most of the initial hate for Eric came from the fact that when he first appears he's an overpowered opponent unless you know exactly how the mechanics required to thwart him work (which is not likely in your first playthrough). The game doesn't really give you much info on how to beat him on your first playthrough until he's already gotten farther with Kira, Lisa, and Alice than non NTR fans would want. After you know how things work he's easy to thwart.