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ann's past is perfect it explains ann, kira,& eric.

now it doesnt matter where city or country. ann was taken for couple days to a week (dealers choice on what exzactly happen to her but i would like to see a flashback of it) now during this time she is torn down & built into a sub personality.

this would cause kira guilt wheather she knew what exzactly happened or not, which would cause her to become a free spirt, which exsplain mutiple jobs which would turn into porn industy.

ann now with a sub personality would be easy going in the sex department up to when she had kids that would b when she would develope a dom personality bc of maternal instinces. but the sub personality would still b domimanite but only where the kids are not involved. so with work she would b a perfect sub so long as it doesnt have to do with the kids.

now enters eric we going to assume he has enough experince to spot ann's sub personality & of course her very good looks. which is why he pramoted her to work for him. now from there we enter the game in the present
 
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maxbishup

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...{another story} from original bb
Ok, well at this point, not much about game story. But you can see with cams on pc, and next update has a massage parlor. In this version some things that were not shown, but hinted at(Lisa's sex education with Eric, maybe something with Alice)will be shown(if your friends with him, otherwise you can block him). There are a few animations so far, more to come. Maybe a few other little things. But I think the biggest thing, is this one is not abandoned, at least not yet.
 
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badi90

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last one I will add for now is eric back story . and it might help aleksey on game . btw he need to have complicity issues. so eric fan be easy on me
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konabwo

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... if i am to miss bb i could try...though for now i have other bb thingies to finish (0.9-0.13 original, 0.13-0.21 smirnyi, fans renpy, darksilvers glamour)
 
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jan.spam

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Yes, but where is this fight, I keep hearing about. I'm all about a fight, but with Eric there is no fight. Friend or enemy, no fight. Really is a phone call, a fight. Let's face it, the ones that talk about a challenge, are friends with Eric, they only want NTR not a challenge. Even if your enemies, it's only about grind, go here go there, look on pc, make a phone call. Max's only challenge, comes from the girls, not Eric. Eric serves only one purpose, NTR. Now if you like it that's fine, if not get rid of him. But don't waste your time, looking to Eric for a fight, its not there.
I respectfully disagree: the fight they are talking about is the race to corrupt the girls first. The girls are the challenge, agreed, but with out an opposition you have indefinite time in this Sandbox game to succeed. If you don’t need Eric in your game fine, but I have zero interest in NTR, and still for me the game is most enjoyable if I can play a long war path, and beat him to every girl‘s p.., err..: heart.
 

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Eric is a much needed ass.... ass.......... asset to the game. Max should be more interested in Lisa's blonde friend, whatsername, and that hot chick at the coffee shop. At any rate, we need more Eric and Alice cheating/NTR or whatever behind the Mom's back. Max can spy and either help Eric to keep him away from Blondie and coffee girl or he can have the option to get rid of him, but it should be the players choice. :poop:
 

badi90

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I respectfully disagree: the fight they are talking about is the race to corrupt the girls first. The girls are the challenge, agreed, but with out an opposition you have indefinite time in this Sandbox game to succeed. If you don’t need Eric in your game fine, but I have zero interest in NTR, and still for me the game is most enjoyable if I can play a long war path, and beat him to every girl‘s p.., err..: heart.
if it's the same as the orginal . then there is no race . u play fine and dandy. out of nowhere u find eric in alice room . or sleeping with kira . u corrupt and he enjoys ur hard work . if its who start the event 1st . *like I said before . each event u have time limit to gain girl trust . the skills. the items and the mood . u start the event . otherwise eric will do it instead of you * . u could littel more ntr fun like eric could start the event and u finish it . or other way around . build score system for events I'd u go below a fixed number girls will change side . if eric start u go extra mile to get them back .... that's what I call a race and a fight
 

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I respectfully disagree: the fight they are talking about is the race to corrupt the girls first. The girls are the challenge, agreed, but with out an opposition you have indefinite time in this Sandbox game to succeed. If you don’t need Eric in your game fine, but I have zero interest in NTR, and still for me the game is most enjoyable if I can play a long war path, and beat him to every girl‘s p.., err..: heart.
Eric is a much needed ass.... ass.......... asset to the game. Max should be more interested in Lisa's blonde friend, whatsername, and that hot chick at the coffee shop. At any rate, we need more Eric and Alice cheating/NTR or whatever behind the Mom's back. Max can spy and either help Eric to keep him away from Blondie and coffee girl or he can have the option to get rid of him, but it should be the players choice. :poop:
Yeah, I agree with both of these post. I think this is what Aleksey is doing. I've always said, this is Aleksey's game, let him make his game, his way. A lot of people want some type of opposition, and some want NTR, that's fine. I'm all about" do your on thing". But if the dev makes it a part of the game, to get rid of an opponent at some point, that's ok as well. If at that point you no longer enjoy playing the game, there's other game's you can play. The rest of us will continue to play, and support the dev. What it comes down to is, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of challenge or NTR. But there's nothing wrong with those of us, that just want to play a porn game either.
 

badi90

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its jest we expressing our thoughts. and whatever he make I will play it . I share my views for fun and he might get inspiration from them . but that's it . hell there migh be someone looking to create a new game and use one of my idea.
 
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PotatoPC

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Max should be more interested in Lisa's blonde friend, whatsername, and that hot chick at the coffee shop.
True. The justification for Max's attraction to his family is currently missing from the game outside of setting implications. Eric being the corrupting influence would work nicely: To keep an eye on Eric Max spies on the bathroom and reluctantly sets up the cameras around the house. Realising that he needs money to stop Eric forces him to open the website. Ann mentions that Eric is good at massages at dinner and Alice asks for one, Max learns the trade to prevent it from happening. etc... These actions corrupt Max as he attempts to prevent Eric from corrupting his family.

Obviously this would create a disconnect between Max and the player as their goals will be different until Max is sufficiently corrupted. It would also require a rewrite to the start of the game so is unlikely to happen.
 
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One mistake I thought DS made in the original after you get rid of Eric was that he didn't replace that opponent with something else for Max to struggle against. It doesn't have to be another rival with NTR potential. It doesn't even have to be a person. It could be something like a landlord who raises the rent dramatically so they get kicked out of the house if they don't pay X amount per month or whatever. So money becomes the new opponent, in fact that's the most obvious option to me although there are plenty of other options.

The key for me is that there is something or someone for Max to struggle against. Otherwise he's just sort of screwing around like you do in The Sims. I actually liked The Sims except that without any sort of goal I quickly got bored. I think almost every story is better with an adversary of some sort in it for the protagonist to struggle against, whether that's an actual person or just something as simple as a monthly rent payment or a time deadline.
 

badi90

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True. The justification for Max's attraction to his family is currently missing from the game outside of setting implications. Eric being the corrupting influence would work nicely: To keep an eye on Eric Max spies on the bathroom and reluctantly sets up the cameras around the house. Realising that he needs money to stop Eric forces him to open the website. Ann mentions that Eric is good at massages at dinner and Alice asks for one, Max learns the trade to prevent it from happening. etc... These actions corrupt Max as he attempts to prevent Eric from corrupting his family.

Obviously this would create a disconnect between Max and the player as their goals will be different until Max is sufficiently corrupted. It would also require a rewrite to the start of the game so is unlikely to happen.
I like your idea .. its batter than mine , if only ppl didn't play or know eric from orginal he will be a master piece.
as for a reason why max sleep with the sisters I tryed to max Ann has mental problems and abusive past made her sexual morality very high. and max has no relation with any girl because of that . he peep and fansty only . after he confronts eric , eric make and offer of swinging . max stuck speechless. both understand it as moment of doubt. eric gives max a week to replay . max try to reflect why he didn't refuse in this week . while doing so he finds hes father dairy that explain how he have mixed feeling for Alice *being resemble to mother looks and behaviour. and how he have wet dreams of her . how he tryed to bury his feeling but he ended up depressed * he decided not to take his father step and new max is born
nevertheless its unrealistic that aleksey will rewrite the story even if all the forms asked him to do so . higher chance he will drop the game and stat a new game . but that doesn't mean we could fantasy about what could or might happens .
beside this game so far is amazing . since he game more views to house to spy
 

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Yeah, I agree with both of these post. I think this is what Aleksey is doing. I've always said, this is Aleksey's game, let him make his game, his way. A lot of people want some type of opposition, and some want NTR, that's fine. I'm all about" do your on thing". But if the dev makes it a part of the game, to get rid of an opponent at some point, that's ok as well. If at that point you no longer enjoy playing the game, there's other game's you can play. The rest of us will continue to play, and support the dev. What it comes down to is, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of challenge or NTR. But there's nothing wrong with those of us, that just want to play a porn game either.
I agree.
What was ignored and everything was sidelined was that Aleksey90 said:
"There are a lot of problems from him, or rather, to implement his actions and influence turned out to be much more difficult and global than it seemed. But I'll do it."
This means that he will work on Eric and his fringes. Not in the sense that he will remove him from the game as soon as possible.
Another issue that was mentioned is that Eric's presence in the game has its own problems. In my opinion, these problems are divided into two parts.

1) Technically and programmatically, managing the events that exist due to Eric's presence in the game will be more difficult and time consuming. None of us are involved in this project in terms of programming and game development to be aware of the problems of its developer. Yes, every job has its own difficulties, but as far as it is reasonable, manageable and justified. Developing games like the "BBAS" is a bit more complicated than some other games
2) Eating food that we do not like or going to a place we do not like to be there will be very difficult and uncomfortable for us. Also, developing a game in a direction that we are not very interested in will be very tedious. We all know that Aleksey90 does not like Eric, but nevertheless he is doing his best to satisfy the players. (Which is admirable)

In terms of storyline, let's assume that this game, like many other games, was sold entirely on a DVD for sale or use. Were we still able to try to make a difference in the game's development thinking and storyline? After finishing the game or leaving it half done, we could only say whether we enjoyed the game or not. A game with numerous, complex storylines and half-abandoned will disappoint everyone.
Sure, Aleksey90 will read other people's opinions in Patreon and here, and maybe use some of them to keep making the game. And that's very good, but not in a way that puts pressure on him By saying things like, I want this or that more or I don't want this at all, or why it's like that or it's not like that.

This is not a game with a huge budget and an experienced team. This is a game from an independent and enthusiastic developer who is doing his best. Now he has been able to make an acceptable game. So let's trust him. Many games with or without a series of elements have been able to achieve very high positions.

Put ourselves in his shoes. No one can keep all the players 100% satisfied with their game.


I'm sorry if what I wrote is a bit inexpressive ,English is not my native language.
 
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maxbishup

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Ok, for new update, best we know from patreon, mid-late Dec. As for all the ideas, about this game, some of you are very talented. In fact, some of you should be a dev. Wish I had that kind of talent. But I think I'll just stick to supporting. I hope Aleksey sees these post, but if not, please don't be discouraged. Keep on posting, some are so interesting, maybe I'll be supporting you in the near future. Hope to get some word about update soon, stay safe.
 

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One mistake I thought DS made in the original after you get rid of Eric was that he didn't replace that opponent with something else for Max to struggle against. It doesn't have to be another rival with NTR potential. It doesn't even have to be a person. It could be something like a landlord who raises the rent dramatically so they get kicked out of the house if they don't pay X amount per month or whatever. So money becomes the new opponent, in fact that's the most obvious option to me although there are plenty of other options.

The key for me is that there is something or someone for Max to struggle against. Otherwise he's just sort of screwing around like you do in The Sims. I actually liked The Sims except that without any sort of goal I quickly got bored. I think almost every story is better with an adversary of some sort in it for the protagonist to struggle against, whether that's an actual person or just something as simple as a monthly rent payment or a time deadline.
he actually did, the whole family porn plot was because Ann lost her job after Eric was gone, Max had to start paying every week to keep the family afloat

but obviously the player had more money at the time already because of extra cameras, it didn't feel like a huge hurdle as Eric was. Eric started fucking Max life when he was broke so it was way harder to deal with and at times it would feel like a enormous grind just to pay that motherfucker and save money for extra cameras, gifts and lessons
 

Asdzxcf

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um i still dk why but i cant get to talk about kissing with lisa even though i completed 3 lessons
and i even like cant get past the 3 lessons like i cant bath together with kira etc etc
any help?
Dude i cant talk with anyone about kiss lesson can u help me??
 
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