Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.01] [Aleksey90]

[pootypooty]

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And the crowd went wild, then shots rang out, and an alien went down. The crowd was silent as the old alien said his last words "please please just I more facepalm..." an as is the custom, the alien was taken to area 51 in a loan and leaf garbage bag. THE END

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[gelu123]

Not to mention, if the option to change clothes weren't given, there'd be those who'd complain, "They always wear the same clothes! Why can't we change them?"

I doubt the backlash for the lack of cloth changing would be more than 1-2 autistic comments.. cause even if there are trolls there are still players that want new scenes. And i never said the dev shouldnt do cloth changing , but not now not in the current state of game when there are so many other things still needed (Eric events , Kate introduction, Olivia and her mom)

 

[Nemo56]

I don't think rendering time is the big issue here, but rather missing a scene or two and then having script problems.
I don't know how many pictures have to be updated (and yes I am well aware that backgrounds and actors are partially separated for storage reasons) for every piece of clothing.
If he manages to implement an automatism that automatically renders every possible scene for each new piece of clothing and updates the scripts ... yay.

 

[khumak]

I don't think rendering time is the big issue here, but rather missing a scene or two and then having script problems.
I don't know how many pictures have to be updated (and yes I am well aware that backgrounds and actors are partially separated for storage reasons) for every piece of clothing.
If he manages to implement an automatism that automatically renders every possible scene for each new piece of clothing and updates the scripts ... yay.

Maybe he's found a better way to do it than what I tried when I was modding, but I found tracking which clothing was being worn and displaying the correct image with the correct item of clothing on to be surprisingly tedious. In my case, I used conditional switch statements in my image definitions to automagically use the right clothing for each scene instead of dealing with if/then or some other method in the body of the code for each scene.

The problem is that meant I had to actually define all of my images, so that amounted to hundreds of image definitions and conditional switch statements. If I was only using 1 clothing item per scene then I wouldn't have needed any of that code. No conditional switch statements and zero image definitions. Doesn't sound like a big deal but I found myself constantly dealing with broken image links. It also does require significantly more render time, although I believe he saves some time by rendering the background separately and then overlaying a smaller image focusing on the characters on top of the background image.

 

[PuppetSoul]

Maybe he's found a better way to do it than what I tried when I was modding, but I found tracking which clothing was being worn and displaying the correct image with the correct item of clothing on to be surprisingly tedious. In my case, I used conditional switch statements in my image definitions to automagically use the right clothing for each scene instead of dealing with if/then or some other method in the body of the code for each scene.

The problem is that meant I had to actually define all of my images, so that amounted to hundreds of image definitions and conditional switch statements. If I was only using 1 clothing item per scene then I wouldn't have needed any of that code. No conditional switch statements and zero image definitions. Doesn't sound like a big deal but I found myself constantly dealing with broken image links. It also does require significantly more render time, although I believe he saves some time by rendering the background separately and then overlaying a smaller image focusing on the characters on top of the background image.

Make two globals for each character: charclothvar and prevcharclothvar.

In your clothing change sub, have it set prevcharclothvar to charclothvar, and then set charclothvar to the variable that is being passed to it. So the clothing change sub will be like clothingchange(charvar, newsuit, charclothvar) and then have whatever flavor of tree you want pairing the suit with the correct charclothvar based on the passed charvar.

Then call the images by affixing the global to it.

So if we need "Alice" in "Swimwear1" our image is called Alice_Swimwear1 and the image is called as "Alice_" + aliceclothvar; we put that into a try, and in the exception catch for file not found, clothingchange(alice, prevaliceclothvar, default) and does "Alice_" + aliceclothvar again. Failing that would again trigger the clothingchange(alice, prevaliceclothvar, default), which would end up setting both her current and previous suits to default. If she doesn't have an image for her default suit for the scene, it'll enter an infinite loop.

This allows you to change costumes for specific scenes, and then lets your image request function handle changing people back into whatever they were previously wearing when they move into content that doesn't have that special suit and isn't setting its own.

 

[Nemo56]

Maybe he's found a better way to do it than what I tried when I was modding, but I found tracking which clothing was being worn and displaying the correct image with the correct item of clothing on to be surprisingly tedious. In my case, I used conditional switch statements in my image definitions to automagically use the right clothing for each scene instead of dealing with if/then or some other method in the body of the code for each scene.

The problem is that meant I had to actually define all of my images, so that amounted to hundreds of image definitions and conditional switch statements. If I was only using 1 clothing item per scene then I wouldn't have needed any of that code. No conditional switch statements and zero image definitions. Doesn't sound like a big deal but I found myself constantly dealing with broken image links. It also does require significantly more render time, although I believe he saves some time by rendering the background separately and then overlaying a smaller image focusing on the characters on top of the background image.

Yeah, that's basically what I meant. I'm not much into Python, but in other languages I would do it just the same or I would have build the filenames according to a pattern.
With this amount of possible combinations it's all too easy to miss something. Without an automatism behind it to generate all resources it's a neverending story.
About the rendering ... I am not entirely sure how he does it. The characters are stored separatly, but each rendered character comes with a small area containing the background. So MAYBE he is always rendering the full image, then only saving the difference towards an empty background. Rendering takes time, sure, but not weeks and months. Setting up the whole thing manually would take a while however.

 

[Sex robot]

I like Eric and hope to be his friend and share delicious family with him

 

[poolstar]

For info

Big Brother: Another Story v0.07.p1 Release date:
Oct 8, 2021 (Extra for patrons €30)
Oct 8, 2021 (for patrons €20+)
Oct 10, 2021 (for patrons €10+)
Oct 12, 2021 (for patrons €5+)
Oct 15, 2021 (for all patrons)

 

[xw1]

When you're your own boss, you get to prioritize what you want. If a dev wants to make changes, that's their choice.

Of course. However, this developer's decision will not add subscribers to the game.

 

[Grandvisier]

I doubt the backlash for the lack of cloth changing would be more than 1-2 autistic comments.. cause even if there are trolls there are still players that want new scenes. And i never said the dev shouldnt do cloth changing , but not now not in the current state of game when there are so many other things still needed (Eric events , Kate introduction, Olivia and her mom)

Yeah, I guess something trivial, that makes the game a little more interactive isn't worth it.

Are you kidding? People complain about everything.... "Rush the latest update! NOW!".... "I can't believe the update got rushed. There's a single glitch in my free game! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Grandvisier]

Any community complains about everything, but that doesn't mean it can be any less right or wrong. The idea of a clothing system is great, but this implementation came too late. This was supposed to be thought of from the beginning, but when someone plays the game and doesn't go deep into it and tries to create their own version, they end up getting confused and disoriented. Many things could have been done from the beginning of the game, a version of your own story, dialogues that don't let the player bored and some of the most extensive and organized events. But it's not the developer's fault, if he is working alone or doesn't have a writer/screenwriter. But in a way, he could have sought help, I could have helped, but it's too late. I don't think the game is bad, but the fucking grind and little changes made me feel disheartened.

Good... Now all you have to do is go and make the perfect game. Never change anything as you go along.

Easy to claim in hindsight.

Hell, using that "logic", cavemen should have invented jet packs and the fucking space shuttle, because that's how it should have been all along.

 

[ToxicLemming]

Hell, using that "logic", cavemen should have invented jet packs and the fucking space shuttle, because that's how it should have been all along.

You mean they didn't?!?

 

[terryeon]

Has anyone seen any devs, anywhere on here, ask for assistance with rendering their content? I noticed quite a few devs use laptops and I can't even begin to imagine how insanely rough that is on a person. So I've been curious for a long time why no dev just asks for help and uses discord to pump out renders as fast as they can setup their scenes. Do the want support only in money and don't actually care about their work or is there another reason for this?

Also, as for his artifacts on his layer images. I'm hoping the dev has a reason and isn't rendering the backgrounds as well. But it is possible they're using canvases properly and loading the scenes together on photoshop to check how they look. Then deleting everything else with a feather to save and change file format. Maybe it somehow looks better on their end on renpy? Or perhaps they use this to ensure it's lining up perfectly in the game as those would cause visual issues if the layers don't match up perfectly and thus it's a safety measure which would be quite clever.


Btw, please don't insult others based on misinformation please.

 

[gelu123]

Well

Has anyone seen any devs, anywhere on here, ask for assistance with rendering their content? I noticed quite a few devs use laptops and I can't even begin to imagine how insanely rough that is on a person. So I've been curious for a long time why no dev just asks for help and uses discord to pump out renders as fast as they can setup their scenes. Do the want support only in money and don't actually care about their work or is there another reason for this?

Also, as for his artifacts on his layer images. I'm hoping the dev has a reason and isn't rendering the backgrounds as well. But it is possible they're using canvases properly and loading the scenes together on photoshop to check how they look. Then deleting everything else with a feather to save and change file format. Maybe it somehow looks better on their end on renpy? Or perhaps they use this to ensure it's lining up perfectly in the game as those would cause visual issues if the layers don't match up perfectly and thus it's a safety measure which would be quite clever.


Btw, please don't insult others based on misinformation please.
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Well you are right , there are people here who know a thing or two about renders and are even willing to work pro bono for that matter.

 

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[armion82]

Has anyone seen any devs, anywhere on here, ask for assistance with rendering their content? I noticed quite a few devs use laptops and I can't even begin to imagine how insanely rough that is on a person. So I've been curious for a long time why no dev just asks for help and uses discord to pump out renders as fast as they can setup their scenes. Do the want support only in money and don't actually care about their work or is there another reason for this?

Also, as for his artifacts on his layer images. I'm hoping the dev has a reason and isn't rendering the backgrounds as well. But it is possible they're using canvases properly and loading the scenes together on photoshop to check how they look. Then deleting everything else with a feather to save and change file format. Maybe it somehow looks better on their end on renpy? Or perhaps they use this to ensure it's lining up perfectly in the game as those would cause visual issues if the layers don't match up perfectly and thus it's a safety measure which would be quite clever.


Btw, please don't insult others based on misinformation please.
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Probably a lot of things but 2 major.
1.There is not really that many devs that are making 10 000 or more dollars,euros etc,especially after all taxes.Most of the games I am playing are getting 500 and 2000.No way with that amount to afford a help.
2.If you ever try to write a book,make a game or do a painting,you will know that the art is very subjective matter.And almost any creator will prefer to keep his work.

 

[dalibut]

How much of original BB has been redone in this version of BB (including new patch coming on 8 oct) ? Is it most of the original game already incoporated then just adding more content ?

 

[Manifold]

How much of original BB has been redone in this version of BB (including new patch coming on 8 oct) ? Is it most of the original game already incoporated then just adding more content ?

Game starts the same, same mechanics overall with some modifications, but no, the story takes a different course although character roles and personalities stay somewhat the same. A lot more Kira a lot sooner. Can be friends with Eric, and no post-Eric events yet.

 

[Nemo56]

How much of original BB has been redone in this version of BB (including new patch coming on 8 oct) ? Is it most of the original game already incoporated then just adding more content ?

No, by far not. The whole era-after-eric part is missing and the stories with the girls are at a early stage. It's not sure how much of the original will end up to be reused.

 

[dhasghdashjdkajs]

personally, I like the new clothing feature with Lisa. if people are paying for custom requests to be implemented into the game, then people have no right to complain. if you're that desperate perhaps contact the developer yourself?