Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.06.01] [Aleksey90]

[Bilzzzz]

On the first page of the thread. Black Panther. has posted a link to latest saves.
Just search.
https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brot...3-extra-aleksey90.43101/page-509#post-5790156

PS

And you could thank. Black Panther for that.

Ok thank you

 

[gelu123]

It is useless to argue about Eric or any other male NPC present in the game. In the case of WMV where there are male characters, none of them fuck any girl and if by chance the developer puts it, the whole community will complain about NTR.
The biggest truth is that you can't have another male character besides the MC, because people seem to be embodying a fictional character and get jealous, which I am amazed to see. It is useless to argue about it, many are closed-minded and not open-minded. On the other hand, many developers don't know how to develop a character well, so it's something that becomes whatever. Here you cannot talk about Eric or say that any developer who is creating BB to give more continuity to the character or develop it better, because you will be called Eric-Lover or NTR lover.

Talking about Eric, unfortunately it was not developed as some imagined it to be, a year passed and it took him 4 months to create a part of the development which was the clothing system that went nowhere. It's quite likely that Eric will exit the game in an unconventional way, like, "Mom, I'm seeing Eric run his hand over Alice's body, go see. Ann will go check it out and kick Eric out of the house." So if it's to take Eric out of the game, then do it, it seems most don't want to see him, much less another male NPC. But implementing a game over would be stupid. Do you spend HOURS grinding so you can have a game over in a porn game? This is stupid to do. Unfortunately there will be no development of Eric taking Max to a strip club and introducing him to some girls or showing a part of his dirty business to Max and then see Max betraying on him and kicks him out after stealing everything from him.

Exactly , one thing said above makes me depressed too, that because of some people the game will suffer and it wont have meaningfull antagonist . Like it or not eric is necessary to this game even if alpha male virgins hate ntr stuff.

 

[Twelvemonkey]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

 

[gelu123]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

Having more content with eric actually means a better story telling than the old sex familly incest.Hard to relate to max … thats why events like kira/Ann/Alice and eric should be more fun. Make them avoidable at some extent if some arent happy but for the rest they should appear in game . Sacrificing alice for kira was an opportunitty in past game and it actually was a choice that we tought about and had repercussions, was it really worth giving alice pussy to eric by telling him about her liqiour problem so eric would stop fking her?( currently only a small bj happens which lemme tell you it can be extended cause the severitty of max being caught having sex with kira is easilly a reason for eric to have sex with her)

 

[por12]

You do realize that what Eric did and might do was just being a bad guy, you know that right? It's only human to me. On the other hand, what Max did and tried to do was to corrupt every member of his family because he's sexually attracted to them. That is one fucked up little shit you were playing as. I want to kill him, not Eric.

its a sexual fantasy game,nothing real can be applied here.
that being said,if we would like to apply moral constraints on the game then yes eric is just a guy who wants to fuck everyone(but he too fap to the naked alice while creeping on her sleep,thats bad) and max is a damn bastard who sell his family privacy for money and peek on everyone.
so max is the baddest one here by a far mile.

if we consider the original big brother game where eric want to steal the house and kick the girls out then he is not so good either.

 

[gelu123]

its a sexual fantasy game,nothing real can be applied here.
that being said,if we would like to apply moral constraints on the game then yes eric is just a guy who wants to fuck everyone(but he too fap to the naked alice while creeping on her sleep,thats bad) and max is a damn bastard who sell his family privacy for money and peek on everyone.
so max is the baddest one here by a far mile.

if we consider the original big brother game where eric want to steal the house and kick the girls out then he is not so good either.

There aint good or bad people here, all are bad and depraved. There is a protagonist and an antagonist , take one of the and the story is bland and boring. Whats the point of grind if max eventually fucks all? Erics presence actually justifies somestimes the grind , max raises sexual skills and humps familly better than eric and vice versa. You focus on one familly member , the other gets slowly taken by erci so it requires smart thinking and managing development the other characters. Besides we make more content with 4 females and2 men than 1 dontcha agree? Withour eric the game reverts to a worse state than glamour (albeit max side of story).

 

[por12]

There aint good or bad people here, all are bad and depraved. There is a protagonist and an antagonist , take one of the and the story is bland and boring. Whats the point of grind if max eventually fucks all? Erics presence actually justifies somestimes the grind , max raises sexual skills and humps familly better than eric and vice versa. You focus on one familly member , the other gets slowly taken by erci so it requires smart thinking and managing development the other characters. Besides we make more content with 4 females and2 men than 1 dontcha agree? Withour eric the game reverts to a worse state than glamour (albeit max side of story).

i dont care at all about protagonist/antagonist
i like eric's portrayal of seduction way more than max one,thats why i like the character
yes glamour is cool but can be boring on the long side

 

[Nemo56]

Kate (Alice's girlfriend, not the MC from Glamour) and money (Ann will most likely lose her job after Eric is gone) are only two ways that could be used directly after Eric is gone.

I'm glad you mentioned that. A "challenge" must not necessarily connected to another person, but can also be a problem that needs to be solved. Ok, 'money' is just a grind factor.

 

[gelu123]

i dont care at all about protagonist/antagonist
i like eric's portrayal of seduction way more than max one,thats why i like the character
yes glamour is cool but can be boring on the long side

Yep i find eric necessary to the story too.dev should make more events than focus on useless things like clothing. After he sorts his real life problems hope he develops the story bett , lets hope for a 2022 year of Big Brother!

 

[gelu123]

I'm glad you mentioned that. A "challenge" must not necessarily connected to another person, but can also be a problem that needs to be solved. Ok, 'money' is just a grind factor.

I was around then and ... just no. Sure, the whole construct around Ann was bonkery (including the movie storyline), but that was no different than when Eric was still around. Ann was, is and will be the most uninspiring character in the game (well, it's a close match with Kira, but Ann leads).
On one playthrough I cheated him out even (causing some quests to bug), there was nothing really missing in the game, it still had the same ups and downs, just with one less annoying good for nothnig character.

The good thing is: We can argue her all we want. He WILL be gone, The End.

The only part of after eric content that was slightly interesting was olivia and diane (olivia’s mom) content , but it never reached any conclusion.

 

[Nemo56]

Sry to tell ya mate but after eric was gone the game was goin downwards and lost its touch [...]

I was around then and ... just no. Sure, the whole construct around Ann was bonkers (including the movie storyline), but that was no different than when Eric was still around. Ann was, is and will be the most uninspiring character in the game (well, it's a close match with Kira, but Ann leads).
On one playthrough I cheated him out even (causing some quests to bug), there was nothing really missing in the game, it still had the same ups and downs, just with one less annoying good for nothnig character.

The good thing is: We can argue her all we want. He WILL be gone, The End.

 

[Nemo56]

Facts simply don't care about your feelings. If you don't like the game, don't play, facts don't care.

I actually play this game becasue I like to play a fucked up little shit for a change
Let's be honest: Max needs mental help ... badly

 

[Ignazzio]

Facts simply don't care about your feelings. If you don't like the game, don't play, facts don't care.

You're overusing Shapiro's quote a bit. Opinions about characters are subjective by definition. Eric is in a game as well as friendship path with him and that's a simple fact. He'll will surely be removed on other paths but at this point there is not enough data to say he's done on that one. Dev seems to be aware of what happened with BB after Eric got removed so that's that as well. I struggle to understand why people still argue about this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

I struggle to understand why people still argue about this stuff.

Because they care about the game and/or its characters, nothing more to it than that

 

[Ignazzio]

Please remain delusional, we're testing update now. I'll just let you see for yourself, then tell me all about your friendship with Eric, and how that works out for you. Truth cannot be overused.

Truth is just an objective statement about reality. This quote indeed can be overused. You're making a lot of logical fallacies using it in a wrong context. We shall see. For all available data we have it's as good of an assumption as any other. May be wrong but still reasonable at given time.

 

[Summer Love]

Then it will get better or at least be more enjoyable.


No, it's not. This "struggle" was annoying, nothing else. Most story arcs have nothing to do with Eric in the first place, he is only present in very few arcs and ... I don't miss him in these. It's a lot more fun to find out how to manipulate Alice (first) with liquor pralines, with pranks and some nice actions, than interrupt anything that Eric might or might not be doing. Gladly, he doesn't do much, so one has not to bother too much. If you remember to poison him on a regular base you hardly notice he's here. The struggle defines only a very small part of the game which can be ignored easily.
What I am looking for is not a obsolete struggle with a virtual character, but fun writing, a little bit of finding out what to do next, discovering new events and opportunities, maybe also a bit problem solving. For all that I don't need a Eric. Back in the Days I found Man of the House very nice. Again ... no Eric.

You mentioned something like the game being a VN without Eric. The gameplay mechanics have little to nothing to do with it's content. There are VNs with arch enemies and there are free roaming games without.
BB is actually one of the games, that almost go towards the adventure game play, more than most free roaming games. Find out what to do, look for items, talk to people, use stuff. What I miss a bit, are more combinations compared to the old aif text adventures. But since everything has to be rendered these days, that won't come back. Did you notice that I didn't mention Eric here? He is not part of the gameplay mechanics, these won't change once he's gone.

Eric might not be the only threat in this game, but he is an important one. As I said before, he represents something the player must take action against to win his harem. As of right now, he doesn't do too much, but he might, and should, do more, because as I said before: his role makes the player fight for his/her nudes. If you don't like that then I'm sorry, but I'm sure there are a plethora of cheat mods that will get made to hand-deliver your dopamine fix to your fried brain receptors.

Even after Eric gets canned, because he is 100% getting taken care of in one way shape or form as I know understand. There has to be something, or else the game will turn into Dark Silvers Big Brother after Eric got voted out completely. There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

 

[armion82]

Eric might not be the only threat in this game, but he is an important one. As I said before, he represents something the player must take action against to win his harem. As of right now, he doesn't do too much, but he might, and should, do more, because as I said before: his role makes the player fight for his/her nudes. If you don't like that then I'm sorry, but I'm sure there are a plethora of cheat mods that will get made to hand-deliver your dopamine fix to your fried brain receptors.

Even after Eric gets canned, because he is 100% getting taken care of in one way shape or form as I know understand. There has to be something, or else the game will turn into Dark Silvers Big Brother after Eric got voted out completely. There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

You must understand something.One way or another,sooner or later you have to get rid of Eric.Otherwise you will reach the Game Over sign.Don't forget that Eric is not that important as Max or any of the girls.

 

[Nemo56]

There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

I played too many non dead projects without a Eric character to share that opinion.

What do you do with Eric IN the game? Yes, exactly: You click buttons, maybe following a guide that was made witzh the $30 Patreon tier.

Eric might be a more or less important thread for the beginning of the game, by now he has lost most importance - some would argue about that.
But there is one thing that's for sure: He'll be gone soon. Then you might get proven right and the game will die because too many Eric lovers leave, or it won't.

 

[maxbishup]

Ok, I'm through with telling anyone anything about the game, believe whatever you like, if it works for you, it works for me.

 

[Valoryn]

I'd like a direction in the game were Max and Eric are in an endless tug of war (or cooperation) to getting the girls where one could even cuck the other due to losing too much points or making bad decisions. If the player likes Eric, then have Max make bad decisions. If the player likes Max, then have Max make good decisions. And yes, get the girls fucked by Eric or Max or both. I'm guessing that might satisfy everybody? This is another story after all. My 2 cents.