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dwalsh

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.Black Panther. I think I agree with Nemo56 with the in game hints. Concerning the money issue this game does not have an easy and normal mode (maybe that's an idea to pitch to Aleksey). Easy mode starts off with enough money to cover the initial events. Normal starts regularly. Or, I can't remember the event clearly but a more blatant message could be inserted telling Max to check the computer to get the money. For me figuring out the best route to get the money in time was frustrating but fulfilling in the end. I'll take a few minutes to check the FAQ now.
 
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Draupnir7

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Just starting the game, and I wanna make sure before I spend a stupid amount of time savescumming/scrolling: is the 18% peek chance at the beginning actually 18% or is it just a lyin'-ass 0%? And if it is 0%, is it necessary to fail several times to raise it?
 

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Just starting the game, and I wanna make sure before I spend a stupid amount of time savescumming/scrolling: is the 18% peek chance at the beginning actually 18% or is it just a lyin'-ass 0%? And if it is 0%, is it necessary to fail several times to raise it?
My suggestion is to savescum.. Yes, it is a low chance, but it WILL get better. If you want, I THINK that there is a mod that lets you adjust skills. If you use the mod, I recommend being careful that you do NOT set things to high (not sure but that might cause problems). Of course, the Savescum is ALSO useful to see alternate versions of some scenes, so I say YAY SaveScum. :)

Just a thought.
 

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this game won't survive without eric. know why? the others didn't.

Might do fine with the vanilla harem people for a while, but those games are dime a dozen. The last update where Dev bait and switched NTR with Lisa has me done. Kind of a dick move to string the NTR path along and then drop it right at payout.

In other topics,

I keep seeing people say MAX is the MAIN CHARACTER. Eric has to go because MAX is the main character.

To all those people. You do not really seem to get NTR. It's not NTR if Max is not the main character. That's kind of the point. NTR does not suddenly make Eric the main character. You, the player, the main perspective, Max, is the main character dealing with the issues of NTR.

Here is an outside example to help:

The Count of Monte Cristo is a classic revenge story that focused on the PoV of the main character, Edmond Dantes. His friend betrays him, has him thrown in prison, seduces his wife, and takes his child as his own. This is literally an NTR story. No one who has ever read it would even think to say Edmond is not the main character.

Now, you can certainly write a story where the "main character," is not the PC but rather another. I've seen that before. But that's not what we have here. We have Max, and his family, and an interloper. The story is about how Max handles this. Does he do away with Eric (War* and make his family into his harem. Does he prefer to use Eric to gain what he may not otherwise have *Friendship*?



What you are really saying when you say "Max is the main character, therefore NTR and Eric must end," is that you don't want NTR and have decided to not do an NTR route. That's fine. It is the Dev's choice. But don't pretend that's not what is happening. It is not that NTR is not in cards that bothers me, it is that a token effort is given to it to draw the widest audience, and then it is cut to appease your real audience.

Wish Devs could just be honest for once on this. It's not the story that can't abide an NTR route, it is that you have chosen not to do so.
 

AnimeHentaiGamer

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Might do fine with the vanilla harem people for a while, but those games are dime a dozen. The last update where Dev bait and switched NTR with Lisa has me done. Kind of a dick move to string the NTR path along and then drop it right at payout.

In other topics,

I keep seeing people say MAX is the MAIN CHARACTER. Eric has to go because MAX is the main character.

To all those people. You do not really seem to get NTR. It's not NTR if Max is not the main character. That's kind of the point. NTR does not suddenly make Eric the main character. You, the player, the main perspective, Max, is the main character dealing with the issues of NTR.

Here is an outside example to help:

The Count of Monte Cristo is a classic revenge story that focused on the PoV of the main character, Edmond Dantes. His friend betrays him, has him thrown in prison, seduces his wife, and takes his child as his own. This is literally an NTR story. No one who has ever read it would even think to say Edmond is not the main character.

Now, you can certainly write a story where the "main character," is not the PC but rather another. I've seen that before. But that's not what we have here. We have Max, and his family, and an interloper. The story is about how Max handles this. Does he do away with Eric (War* and make his family into his harem. Does he prefer to use Eric to gain what he may not otherwise have *Friendship*?



What you are really saying when you say "Max is the main character, therefore NTR and Eric must end," is that you don't want NTR and have decided to not do an NTR route. That's fine. It is the Dev's choice. But don't pretend that's not what is happening. It is not that NTR is not in cards that bothers me, it is that a token effort is given to it to draw the widest audience, and then it is cut to appease your real audience.

Wish Devs could just be honest for once on this. It's not the story that can't abide an NTR route, it is that you have chosen not to do so.
exactly and he baited with alice. it makes you wonder on this dev.
 

AnimeHentaiGamer

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There are plenty of games without Eric and they do just fine.

Edit: If you want more Eric, play the Ren'Py remake of the originial. He got his own story arc there.
This game doesn't need it, none of the interesting story arcs include him.
there is a total of 4 failed big brother games that tailored only max story. maybe you want this game to be 5th failed game? this dev needs to continue with it's 3 path arc or risk bait and switching his patreons. mark my words if this goes MAX only will flop.
 
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Nemo56

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there is a total of 4 failed big brother games that tailored only max story. maybe you want this game to be 5th failed game? this dev needs to continue with it's 3 path arc or risk bait and switching his patreons. mark my words if this goes MAX only will flop.
So you say a game called big brother can only be successful with a cretain side character ... ok. That argument does not really convince me, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I think they failed because the writing was crap. It was nothing more than a collection of sex scenes after a while (with or without Eric, no matter) without anything supporting it. Those who want that, won't be happy with any game, a VN would be better suited for them.
Little Sister had some nice ideas, it would actually make a fine VN, but the gameplay is SO bad, that 90% of the time it's just frustrating, so you can't enjoy the scenes you actually manage to find.

Alexey is no genius when it comes to writing or character development, Ann is just as bad as she always was (I still have hope that he will do something about that). But he has the right spirit. What I like here is that he puts a lot more focus on a rather natural progression than the others before him. Here we have a much slower approach and also a lot more variations for the single situations, Alexey succeeds at making each one count. Spider prank at the shower?
Original: 3 pics, the end. BBAS: be mean, be nice, get slapped, get hugged, get slapped for hugging the wrong body part. And I am sure I missed a few variations.

Ann so far was just a side character being banged by a cretin. I am looking forward mostly of what he makes of Alice, his attempt here is by far better than anything in the other games. And I do hope he will change Ann drastically.

So far the majority is happy without Eric, so there's that. Yes, there are some rather loud complaining Eric lovers around, but not nearly as many as those who find him annoying. But the dev already said that on friendship path there will be more Eric, so the few that are here for that guy get what they want as well. But in most plots Eric plays no role at all, not in the past, not now and not in the future.

What the dev "needs" to do is to do his own thing, listening to whiners from either faction as little as possible.
 
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.Black Panther.

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I've attached the save file.
There is no progress in Talented Masseur opportunity
Thank you ...
I checked your save file.
I wonder why you are stuck in this opportunity. Cuz you have made good progress in other opportunities.
Use the save file you sent me:
1) Try to trap a spider in the morning.
2) Massage Alice by the pool. Convince Alice to topless during massaging. Finish the massage without using a spider. (Now you can progress on "favorite aunt" opportunity)
3) Massage Alice again the next day. Without convincing her to become topless. Place the spider next to her during the massage.
4) Trap a spider again the next day.
5) Massage Alice again. Convince Alice to topless during massaging. This time, use the spider while massaging.

Click on my signature. You can find the Walkthrough of the game in the post . Read the section of remaining Opportunities in your game from the game guide.
 
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Draupnir7

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My suggestion is to savescum.. Yes, it is a low chance, but it WILL get better. If you want, I THINK that there is a mod that lets you adjust skills. If you use the mod, I recommend being careful that you do NOT set things to high (not sure but that might cause problems). Of course, the Savescum is ALSO useful to see alternate versions of some scenes, so I say YAY SaveScum. :)

Just a thought.
So it is actually 18%, then? Guess I'm just unlucky.
 

oktabitt

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Hi,
I have only three oportunities incomplete but I don't know how to complete them. They two of them need progress on the blogging opportunity but the blog opportunity it seems complete for this version. Does anyone have an idea for what I have to do?

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dwalsh

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Also, time and again it's been noted that this game world is going to finish with a large game world. The house is only the beginning but it will be expanded meaning that there will be room for more antagonists. So I can only deduce that even on the hostile route Max's problems are not finished. As the game develops I'm sure he'll have a lot more problems to solve. This game follows a lot of logical events even if you consider the illogical control Eric gained on the girls so quickly. The day to day events were basically accurate. I think I'm done debating Eric now because quite frankly he's not in my path any more. There's a lot more in this game for me now. For those on the Friends path I don't know how much more that can be done even if Alexsey let's that path continue (which I doubt) it's a deadend. There's nothing more to add after just a bunch of repetive actions.
 
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dwalsh

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Hi,
I have only three oportunities incomplete but I don't know how to complete them. They two of them need progress on the blogging opportunity but the blog opportunity it seems complete for this version. Does anyone have an idea for what I have to do?

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You have to continue the pool massage with Alice to the end. You'll have to be topless to finish naughty feet while massaging her. Place the spider and let her get behind you for the final scene.

Spy on her when Eric is in the room with her while she's blogging. Listen to their conversation then visit her room the next morning and talk to her
 

oktabitt

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You have to continue the pool massage with Alice to the end. You'll have to be topless to finish naughty feet while massaging her. Place the spider and let her get behind you for the final scene.

Spy on her when Eric is in the room with her while she's blogging. Listen to their conversation then visit her room the next morning and talk to her
Thanks for the reply, I saw in the walkthrough that in order Alice to hide behind.. "Max should at least rub Alice's ass once during the punishment in the yard"... How this can be happen... I have stack for many game days and nothing new happens. Also the only conversation when Eric is in the room with her while she's blogging is this on the image and I can't talk to her next morning. Any help?

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