Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[badi90]

I respectfully disagree: the fight they are talking about is the race to corrupt the girls first. The girls are the challenge, agreed, but with out an opposition you have indefinite time in this Sandbox game to succeed. If you don’t need Eric in your game fine, but I have zero interest in NTR, and still for me the game is most enjoyable if I can play a long war path, and beat him to every girl‘s p.., err..: heart.

if it's the same as the orginal . then there is no race . u play fine and dandy. out of nowhere u find eric in alice room . or sleeping with kira . u corrupt and he enjoys ur hard work . if its who start the event 1st . *like I said before . each event u have time limit to gain girl trust . the skills. the items and the mood . u start the event . otherwise eric will do it instead of you * . u could littel more ntr fun like eric could start the event and u finish it . or other way around . build score system for events I'd u go below a fixed number girls will change side . if eric start u go extra mile to get them back .... that's what I call a race and a fight

 

[vpallie]

And finally it's saturday

 

[troll822]

And finally it's saturday

You should say there's a post with that name or people will not understand what you mean.

 

[maxbishup]

I respectfully disagree: the fight they are talking about is the race to corrupt the girls first. The girls are the challenge, agreed, but with out an opposition you have indefinite time in this Sandbox game to succeed. If you don’t need Eric in your game fine, but I have zero interest in NTR, and still for me the game is most enjoyable if I can play a long war path, and beat him to every girl‘s p.., err..: heart.

Eric is a much needed ass.... ass.......... asset to the game. Max should be more interested in Lisa's blonde friend, whatsername, and that hot chick at the coffee shop. At any rate, we need more Eric and Alice cheating/NTR or whatever behind the Mom's back. Max can spy and either help Eric to keep him away from Blondie and coffee girl or he can have the option to get rid of him, but it should be the players choice.

Yeah, I agree with both of these post. I think this is what Aleksey is doing. I've always said, this is Aleksey's game, let him make his game, his way. A lot of people want some type of opposition, and some want NTR, that's fine. I'm all about" do your on thing". But if the dev makes it a part of the game, to get rid of an opponent at some point, that's ok as well. If at that point you no longer enjoy playing the game, there's other game's you can play. The rest of us will continue to play, and support the dev. What it comes down to is, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of challenge or NTR. But there's nothing wrong with those of us, that just want to play a porn game either.

 

[badi90]

its jest we expressing our thoughts. and whatever he make I will play it . I share my views for fun and he might get inspiration from them . but that's it . hell there migh be someone looking to create a new game and use one of my idea.

 

[PotatoPC]

Max should be more interested in Lisa's blonde friend, whatsername, and that hot chick at the coffee shop.

True. The justification for Max's attraction to his family is currently missing from the game outside of setting implications. Eric being the corrupting influence would work nicely: To keep an eye on Eric Max spies on the bathroom and reluctantly sets up the cameras around the house. Realising that he needs money to stop Eric forces him to open the website. Ann mentions that Eric is good at massages at dinner and Alice asks for one, Max learns the trade to prevent it from happening. etc... These actions corrupt Max as he attempts to prevent Eric from corrupting his family.

Obviously this would create a disconnect between Max and the player as their goals will be different until Max is sufficiently corrupted. It would also require a rewrite to the start of the game so is unlikely to happen.

 

[khumak]

One mistake I thought DS made in the original after you get rid of Eric was that he didn't replace that opponent with something else for Max to struggle against. It doesn't have to be another rival with NTR potential. It doesn't even have to be a person. It could be something like a landlord who raises the rent dramatically so they get kicked out of the house if they don't pay X amount per month or whatever. So money becomes the new opponent, in fact that's the most obvious option to me although there are plenty of other options.

The key for me is that there is something or someone for Max to struggle against. Otherwise he's just sort of screwing around like you do in The Sims. I actually liked The Sims except that without any sort of goal I quickly got bored. I think almost every story is better with an adversary of some sort in it for the protagonist to struggle against, whether that's an actual person or just something as simple as a monthly rent payment or a time deadline.

 

[badi90]

True. The justification for Max's attraction to his family is currently missing from the game outside of setting implications. Eric being the corrupting influence would work nicely: To keep an eye on Eric Max spies on the bathroom and reluctantly sets up the cameras around the house. Realising that he needs money to stop Eric forces him to open the website. Ann mentions that Eric is good at massages at dinner and Alice asks for one, Max learns the trade to prevent it from happening. etc... These actions corrupt Max as he attempts to prevent Eric from corrupting his family.

Obviously this would create a disconnect between Max and the player as their goals will be different until Max is sufficiently corrupted. It would also require a rewrite to the start of the game so is unlikely to happen.

I like your idea .. its batter than mine , if only ppl didn't play or know eric from orginal he will be a master piece.
as for a reason why max sleep with the sisters I tryed to max Ann has mental problems and abusive past made her sexual morality very high. and max has no relation with any girl because of that . he peep and fansty only . after he confronts eric , eric make and offer of swinging . max stuck speechless. both understand it as moment of doubt. eric gives max a week to replay . max try to reflect why he didn't refuse in this week . while doing so he finds hes father dairy that explain how he have mixed feeling for Alice *being resemble to mother looks and behaviour. and how he have wet dreams of her . how he tryed to bury his feeling but he ended up depressed * he decided not to take his father step and new max is born
nevertheless its unrealistic that aleksey will rewrite the story even if all the forms asked him to do so . higher chance he will drop the game and stat a new game . but that doesn't mean we could fantasy about what could or might happens .
beside this game so far is amazing . since he game more views to house to spy

 

[.Black Panther.]

Yeah, I agree with both of these post. I think this is what Aleksey is doing. I've always said, this is Aleksey's game, let him make his game, his way. A lot of people want some type of opposition, and some want NTR, that's fine. I'm all about" do your on thing". But if the dev makes it a part of the game, to get rid of an opponent at some point, that's ok as well. If at that point you no longer enjoy playing the game, there's other game's you can play. The rest of us will continue to play, and support the dev. What it comes down to is, there is nothing wrong with being a fan of challenge or NTR. But there's nothing wrong with those of us, that just want to play a porn game either.

I agree.
What was ignored and everything was sidelined was that Aleksey90 said:
"There are a lot of problems from him, or rather, to implement his actions and influence turned out to be much more difficult and global than it seemed. But I'll do it."
This means that he will work on Eric and his fringes. Not in the sense that he will remove him from the game as soon as possible.
Another issue that was mentioned is that Eric's presence in the game has its own problems. In my opinion, these problems are divided into two parts.

1) Technically and programmatically, managing the events that exist due to Eric's presence in the game will be more difficult and time consuming. None of us are involved in this project in terms of programming and game development to be aware of the problems of its developer. Yes, every job has its own difficulties, but as far as it is reasonable, manageable and justified. Developing games like the "BBAS" is a bit more complicated than some other games
2) Eating food that we do not like or going to a place we do not like to be there will be very difficult and uncomfortable for us. Also, developing a game in a direction that we are not very interested in will be very tedious. We all know that Aleksey90 does not like Eric, but nevertheless he is doing his best to satisfy the players. (Which is admirable)

In terms of storyline, let's assume that this game, like many other games, was sold entirely on a DVD for sale or use. Were we still able to try to make a difference in the game's development thinking and storyline? After finishing the game or leaving it half done, we could only say whether we enjoyed the game or not. A game with numerous, complex storylines and half-abandoned will disappoint everyone.
Sure, Aleksey90 will read other people's opinions in Patreon and here, and maybe use some of them to keep making the game. And that's very good, but not in a way that puts pressure on him By saying things like, I want this or that more or I don't want this at all, or why it's like that or it's not like that.

This is not a game with a huge budget and an experienced team. This is a game from an independent and enthusiastic developer who is doing his best. Now he has been able to make an acceptable game. So let's trust him. Many games with or without a series of elements have been able to achieve very high positions.

Put ourselves in his shoes. No one can keep all the players 100% satisfied with their game.


I'm sorry if what I wrote is a bit inexpressive ,English is not my native language.

 

[FlyingCarrot118]

when new update?

 

[maxbishup]

Ok, for new update, best we know from patreon, mid-late Dec. As for all the ideas, about this game, some of you are very talented. In fact, some of you should be a dev. Wish I had that kind of talent. But I think I'll just stick to supporting. I hope Aleksey sees these post, but if not, please don't be discouraged. Keep on posting, some are so interesting, maybe I'll be supporting you in the near future. Hope to get some word about update soon, stay safe.

 

[gestved]

One mistake I thought DS made in the original after you get rid of Eric was that he didn't replace that opponent with something else for Max to struggle against. It doesn't have to be another rival with NTR potential. It doesn't even have to be a person. It could be something like a landlord who raises the rent dramatically so they get kicked out of the house if they don't pay X amount per month or whatever. So money becomes the new opponent, in fact that's the most obvious option to me although there are plenty of other options.

The key for me is that there is something or someone for Max to struggle against. Otherwise he's just sort of screwing around like you do in The Sims. I actually liked The Sims except that without any sort of goal I quickly got bored. I think almost every story is better with an adversary of some sort in it for the protagonist to struggle against, whether that's an actual person or just something as simple as a monthly rent payment or a time deadline.

he actually did, the whole family porn plot was because Ann lost her job after Eric was gone, Max had to start paying every week to keep the family afloat

but obviously the player had more money at the time already because of extra cameras, it didn't feel like a huge hurdle as Eric was. Eric started fucking Max life when he was broke so it was way harder to deal with and at times it would feel like a enormous grind just to pay that motherfucker and save money for extra cameras, gifts and lessons

 

[Asdzxcf]

um i still dk why but i cant get to talk about kissing with lisa even though i completed 3 lessons
and i even like cant get past the 3 lessons like i cant bath together with kira etc etc
any help?

Dude i cant talk with anyone about kiss lesson can u help me??

 

[.Black Panther.]

Dude i cant talk with anyone about kiss lesson can u help me??

Why do you think you can not get help from anyone?
Send your latest save file, we will check it for you and help you.
whenever you need help, Just ask about it.

 

[.Black Panther.]

Ok, for new update, best we know from patreon, mid-late Dec. As for all the ideas, about this game, some of you are very talented. In fact, some of you should be a dev. Wish I had that kind of talent. But I think I'll just stick to supporting. I hope Aleksey sees these post, but if not, please don't be discouraged. Keep on posting, some are so interesting, maybe I'll be supporting you in the near future. Hope to get some word about update soon, stay safe.

Why do you think you do not have the talent to write new ideas? I have already read great ideas from you. Also as far as I can remember I usually agree with many of the ideas and opinions of Lukumoide, jan.spam and many of the users here (sorry if I do not remember the names of all of friends right now) and I think they are great. badi90 which I think has the talent to write a complete and compelling game story. Perhaps the best thing to do is to collect great, popular and selected ideas and writings in a document and give them to the game developer. I think great things will happen by doing this.

 

[maxbishup]

Why do you think you do not have the talent to write new ideas? I have already read great ideas from you. Also as far as I can remember I usually agree with many of the ideas and opinions of Lukumoide, jan.spam and many of the users here (sorry if I do not remember the names of all of friends right now) and I think they are great. badi90 which I think has the talent to write a complete and compelling game story. Perhaps the best thing to do is to collect great, popular and selected ideas and writings in a document and give them to the game developer. I think great things will happen by doing this.

Yeah, I agree, there are a lot of good ideas here. I think if they are not to far away from Aleksey's plans for the game, he may use some of them. The biggest thing is they must, not require a restart, and fit in with the story thus far. I know that Aleksey, usually comes here after an update to check up on us. So maybe he will read these opinions and ideas, and take some inspiration from them.

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Nice art Aleksey, this would make a great animation, but a lot of work I know. Thank you

3mo

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Just today I was working on some animation with Max and Kira. And it is suitable for the shower, but I don't know if I will have time to add it to v0.05.

3mo

 

[.Black Panther.]

Yeah, I agree, there are a lot of good ideas here. I think if they are not to far away from Aleksey's plans for the game, he may use some of them. The biggest thing is they must, not require a restart, and fit in with the story thus far. I know that Aleksey, usually comes here after an update to check up on us. So maybe he will read these opinions and ideas, and take some inspiration from them.

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This game is great and can be more than that

Just saying I want NTR more or not at all, or anything like that is not fun at all. If there's a good idea for anything, let everyone know (or let the game developer know).It is very good to say ideas even if they are not used

some ideas :

In the game, Max can be interested in photography and think of starting a photography studio for models, etc. He can also consider entering university to improve his abilities as a photographer. Max can get closer to Alice with the help of her to study for college. Max can also encourage Alice to study modeling and go to college together .And work together in the studio.(this means more opportunities at home , campus and ...). On the other hand, Max can increase his skill in massage and persuade Ann to learn and set up a massage parlor as a family business (instead of X-movies). Max can help with Ann on his extra time when he is not in the studio or on campus, which means more opportunities in the game.Lisa can also have her place in either of these two parts .Kira and the other characters that will be added to the game can find their place or add a new theme to the game.
New locations can be added to the game and ....
At some point in the game, the idea of the father returning to the family and his request to be accepted and spend time with the family can be challenging and affect many things in the game.

 

[badi90]

I like max going to college part . since one of my ideas was studio in the house and few more characters moved in * mainly kaite . Olivia and her mother * .
but my idea of after eric got kicked out was discovering eric plot . each individual character will lead to a new character and reveal some back story . like lisa will lead to eric sister . she was the one tried to seduce max and claim he harassed her . * the cause was eric . * alice will lead to madam x * kaite mother * some events happens and she will tell u about Eric girlfriend a daughter. and the mafia wanna capture them . u use madam x influence to stop the mafia and learn how they knew about family history. lastly Ann will lead to mental doctor . *which lead ann to accept max sleeping with the girls * and discover ur uncle from ur father side and how he paid the doctor to reveal disclosed info to eric * u blackmail her to make it public if she doesn't help *
this way I think it will be more interesting then jest do events that lead only to sex . jest my opinion

 

[.Black Panther.]

I like max going to college part . since one of my ideas was studio in the house and few more characters moved in * mainly kaite . Olivia and her mother * .

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In a normal game it might work, but in a porn game I don't think so

 

[Stormshadow71]

In this version Max made a thresome with Eric and his mother?