Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.08.02] [Aleksey90]

[ptahn]

I don't think there are any variable(s) to immediately remove Eric from the game. As with the current state of the game.

However, there is a defined variable:

characters["lisa"].releric

characters["ann"].releric

characters["alice"].releric

Currently its all set at "None", and not used in the game with the current update.

Relationship Chart:

(not set)

-3 level (War) -2 level (Hostile) -1 level (Rocky) 0 level (Acquainted) 1 level (Not bad) 2 level (Good) 3 level (Warm) 4 level (Friendly) 5 level (Very close)

Maybe! if we keep setting the variable to stay in "0" level or upto "-2" level, we can hope, NTR could/would be avoided.

We will have to wait for few more updates to see on how he is implemented and what changes or opportunities he can create for Max in the long run.
As per the Relationship level understanding, if he reaches level "5", then there is no stopping NTR.

Yes, I manipulated all those variables as well, along with mood and relmax. I know that there will not be a variable to set to remove Eric until it is possible to remove Eric by normal game play.

 

[armion82]

Well the later routes of BB had loads of problems, the Alice one was bad because at NO point could the MC try to fight back. I mean to be honest the bigger issue was making Alice a sub in the first place if you look at the structure of the game. Ann is a sub, Lisa is a sub, Kira is a switch, maybe, and that means that if Alice is a sub that makes for a lack of variation within the house. Then again, BBs biggest issue was that in 90% of the opportunities in the game, any sexual activity was gated through a third party, and was not just because Max initiated it, or the girl wanted it. Ann's story moved away from this only at the end, but the entire game is max basically begging for sex from someone who isn't the person he wants to fuck.

Alice ->Get her through Kate
Ann -> Get her through Kira or Eric
Lisa -> Get her though, Kira, then Alice, then Ann.

this is why the Lisa/Olivia arc was such a nice change. Lisa was an active and willing participant in it, and things moved relatively (for this game) naturally.

In a perfect world this mod would let you decline Alice on the Dom route, and still keep going or do something else, but that would require a lot of work. A few lines early on about Alice just being a sub to try it out or something might fix the logical consistency, but it won't fix the gameplay issues.

For me even bigger problem was how he is implementing new updates.They are completely deleting all old progress.You gain a new scene but completely lose all other scenes before that.Take for example Alice-pretty quick we can't no longer give her any massage-she is not sunbathing anymore/ridiculous/.

 

[Firecracker001]

I can buy on computer, but not give the Gif to everyone
Game looks very good

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

For me even bigger problem was how he is implementing new updates.They are completely deleting all old progress.You gain a new scene but completely lose all other scenes before that.Take for example Alice-pretty quick we can't no longer give her any massage-she is not sunbathing anymore/ridiculous/.

Yeah, and in a game that is like 50 hours of shitty grind, losing access to stuff sucks. One time events are also pretty crap. Some of that would be easy to resolve by say seeing her in the pool area and saying you want to give her a massage, then cutting to those old scenes.

 

[ZeroKonD]

Not another one, how many more of these are people going to make.

Probably till they get it right...

 

[paragon]

How can I make money in this game I tried so many times please help

money=20000
As an example once you have opened up the software, use unren program or other some such, if you need more help send me a message?.
Meantime does anyone now the stealth / persuade lines to use?

 

[paragon]

I played the original BB before the patreon rule changes and it was a good game if a bit boring at the end, by this is new and freash and has some ncie new twists in it, so seriously considering paying for it. It is easy to bad mouth a game because it is a repeat (to a degree) but BB was a winning formula and this is even better, still buggy but that happens, finally abit more on the early living room scenes etc all make it worthwhile

 

[Firecracker001]

I played the original BB before the patreon rule changes and it was a good game if a bit boring at the end, by this is new and freash and has some ncie new twists in it, so seriously considering paying for it. It is easy to bad mouth a game because it is a repeat (to a degree) but BB was a winning formula and this is even better, still buggy but that happens, finally abit more on the early living room scenes etc all make it worthwhile

Yes. This version looks better, as the Original.
But it works dont right. I have buy on Computer, the books and cant give
same with Clothes....

 

[Shiva0067]

It took a while, but I finally played the update. Good and bad, but MOSTLY good.

1) Art is still high quality.
2) Story is limited, but as this is only v.2 that isn't a major problem. There is time to build the story.
3) Time management is so-so to me, Yes, it's nice to be able to do more than one thing during any given time period. However, the extra time MAY enhance GRIND if the DEV isn't careful.
4) The Laptop is nice so far, hopefully good balance and development will continue.
5) For some reason I have not once (this version or the first) been able to use persuasion. I hope that we will get to see how that works soon (the Fitness or whatever stat will hopefully be explained/developed soon as well).

There are a few other things I could mention, but overall this was a good update. Yes, I wish there was more, but that is ALWAYS the case no matter how much content is released.

Aleksey90 I like what you are doing and look forward to what's next. I'll start to support your Patreon Next month (I have limited money so need to wait for new billing cycle to start). Keep up the good work.

Just some thoughts.

 

[paragon]

Yes. This version looks better, as the Original.
But it works dont right. I have buy on Computer, the books and cant give
same with Clothes....

same with self, havent been able to give anything yet, just presumed he hasnt sorted that bit yet?
Did get the step ladders and the cameras though

 

[Shirafune]

Guess i really gotta support to him to find out if I wanna support him XD
I'll do it for u ntr people, hopefully he responds

 

[maxbishup]

If possible please find out for us

Ok I will ask.

 

[The 1★ Dude]

Big Brother will return, but as a new story. It will share many similarities to the original, and will also include new gameplay features and storylines.

So many wrote that already. 1 year later the games are abandoned or onhold cuz they just added the original story and now dont know how to make it further.

 

[Tirael]

So many wrote that already. 1 year later the games are abandoned or onhold cuz they just added the original story and now dont know how to make it further.

But they can always ask they're supporters for a fresh ideis and make this game finished.

 

[JackWheel]

how can i give them the gifts.

 

[Kara Zor-El]

how can i give them the gifts.

Next version (v0.3) you may i guess.

 

[ptahn]

Jesus Christ! it's only v0.02 and many people have already wants to get rid of Eric! It's not a Big Brother anymore is there's no Eric. It's easier for you to just leave the game for good and find something else to play than trying to make him disappear.

First, I believe the intention is to make a new version of BB and not to make a word for word, scene for scene copy. What would be the point of that? As posters have said in this discussion, Dark Silver hastened the removal of Eric because of all the complaints he got. The developer of this version has mentioned that he might remove Eric faster than anticipated because of the comments he has received. It's easy for you to say if you don't like it then leave. Most developers want to make money, they can't just tell 30% of their potential customers to go find something else. I say 30% because in another thread a poster commented that a poll had been done on F95 and 30% of respondents said they hate NTR. I don't remember the exact numbers, but less than 30% liked NTR and the rest didn't care. I've never suggested to a developer that they take NTR out of a game, I just always suggest that they make it avoidable. I support a lot of games, I almost always contribute something to a game that has NTR but later offers a non-NTR path after the developer listens to comments. As for the original game, I think I played it about 2 years ago and there was already a Mod to take Eric out of the game immediately after his arrival.

I think the best thing would be to leave Eric in the game, but have the ability to stop him before he begins a sexual relationship with any of the women including Ann. As it stands now, the family moves into the house and I believe that Eric is sleeping over in less than one game week, week and a half at most. He has no kids of his own but is immediately able to tell Ann how to raise her kids. Keep in mind she has been a mother for at least 20 years. In another week he is able to convince Ann to send her son of to military school. I have to say Ann a pretty shitty mother. What if the developer approached the relationship in a much more realistic fashion and slowed the relationship down considerably giving Max the chance to win the fight before there is any NTR? If you're a fan of NTR, let Eric remain longer.

 

[ptahn]

I hated Eric too, but he's important to the story. Eric is a challenge to be mastered.
All those who don't want him in the story are pussies, who probably had all obstacles cleared as a child.
I find it very good to use the figures again. They are very pretty and, as is so often the case, are not equipped with huge tits and asses that obscure the sun.
A little more outside world from the start wouldn't hurt either, so Max doesn't have to live like in a prison.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read. Alpha males like to be alpha males from the start, not start out as a beta male. In this game Max starts out as the beta male and mean old Eric is the alpha male. How does Max take down Eric? As I recall, one option is to sneak around around and try to photograph Eric perving on the sisters. If successful, Max then tells mommy and she gets rid of the big bad man. The other option is to sneak around and overhear a phone conversation leading you to suspect Eric is not who he says he is. After Eric has sex with Ann and falls asleep, you sneak into the bedroom to look in his wallet. You are unsuccessful so Eric has your mom force you to give Eric your lunch money. You later can be successful and find out Eric's true identity. With the help of your aunt, you can get some other bad men to come take care of Eric. Could the pathway to becoming the alpha male be any less "manly" than the pathways in this game.

 

[SDaddy666]

This thread is a pain in the ass to read already. Don't ask why, it's pretty obvious, if you know, you know.
Guess i'll stick to checking updates and previews on this one...

 

[ptahn]

The developer posted:

I know how much many of you hate Eric, and I feel the same way about him. But Eric is a necessary evil with an important mission. Thanks to the appearance of Eric, Max learns That there can be another life, that it is possible to dominate, to be an alpha male. Max was left without a father, surrounded by his own women, and in such an environment, he could not have developed into anything more than a henpecked man who spies on everyone. Eric sets the direction of this game, the meaning, and already the players decide which way to go.
For v0.02, a lot of time was spent working on Max's laptop and shaping the game's economy. In addition, Eric was introduced to the game, but for a complete and well-established system of character relationships and influence on them, you need to try out several options for mechanics and ideas, which will take a lot of time, so this system will only appear in v0.03.
I was planning to stretch out the fight with Eric on v0.03 and v0.04, and possibly v0.05, but I'm not sure you have the patience for this. Although I planned to introduce animation in v0.03, but given the fact that I need to develop many of the original and new opportunities of the game as quickly as possible, as well as introduce Kira into the game, the relationship with which will be very different from the original and will contain much more events, I will have to wait with animation.
In v0.03, it was planned to perform spying on characters through cameras, but it looks like this will be moved to v0.04.
Now in v0.03, I will focus on working with the opportunities and mechanics of fighting Eric. It sounds pretty simple, but it will contain a huge mountain of work, even though the original game is at hand. I just hope that you have the patience to support my work during this long period of creating the basic Foundation of the game.

I think Kira manipulates Max into the man he becomes and that Eric has very little to do with it. Max is already peeking and knows what he wants. Kira shows him how to get it. The only thing that Eric does (other than pissing a lot of people off and causing them to quit the game) is introduce punishments. He could still do that without developing a physical relationship with Ann.