Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[Nemo56]

Hi
well, these are the things I can say about the game.

Storyline:
The main story is the same as the BB version. The story is gradually separates from the BB version. But so far, it is very similar to the main story of the game.
The game has three paths. Depending on the interest of each player can be in one of these path.

Game events and capabilities:
Similar but different!!! This means that the essence of what happens is the same, but the way it happens and its possibilities are different. And in some cases, the game has more capabilities than BB.
Example: In this game, you can fully use the hidden cameras in the house.

Images and renderings:
Images and renderings in this version are completely different from the BB version. And completely redesigned. Render quality has been greatly improved. And in many cases you will not encounter fixed and similar images in doing repetitive events.

Gameplay:
It is somewhat similar to the BB version, but in a different way. Whether it has become harder or not. In some cases it has become harder and in some cases it has become easier.
Example: In the game there is a system of loaning from a bank, which solves the financial problem in this version is much easier than the BB version.

Characters:
The main characters of the game are the same as the previous characters. But their behavior is slightly different.
According to the game developer, It is possible that many of the game's past characters will be present in the game, but their role and behavior may be completely different from the past.

Has anything new been added to the game?
Yes, during the game you will see new things that did not exist in the BB version.
Also, a new character has just been added to the game. And according to the game developer, we know that a new place will be added to the game in the near future that did not exist in the previous version.

Given that the game is a sandbox, will we have any help in the game?
Yes, the game has in-game hints. Also, if a player encounters a problem in the game, can use the help of others by asking about it in this forum, or can get help from the game guide.

Opinions about this game are very different. Which one should I believe?
Everyone has their own opinion about a game and this opinion is respected. Whether the player likes this game or not depends entirely on the player.
If a player wants to do a few simple clicks and achieve the desired result in the game, this game will certainly not be this player's game. The player must have a strategy to play this game. Otherwise loses something or wanders aimlessly in the game.
To compare or have an opinion about this game, just have to try it. At least we know that this game is not abandoned.

Are we getting rid of Eric in the game by now?
As of this writing, no


I tried not to reveal too much about the game to that the fun of the game would not be lost .

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[Zane11]

Thanks, all three of you

 

[DDC1234]

What's is the console command for getting more candies ? since i ran out of them just as i started massage

 

[Allen0206]

Is that a mod? As far as I know that never was part of the original story. When is this revealed?

It shows up randomly it seem but you could walk in on Erik when Ann was in the bath at night and he would be on the phone with someone telling them the plan. You then got Kira to help you turn him over to the local mafia.

 

[Krugger]

Compared to contemporary porn I have the impression that the girls in BB games lack sex toys ... I would expect most girls/women today having at least a couple of dildos, vibrators, a butt plug, etc. in their bedside locker. (And a lot have more kinky stuff like ball gag, paddles, handcuffs, blindfolds, etc.)
Using more sex toys in the game could lead to interesting events ...

The story was not well developed, but if we're going to create a side story here the family moves to a new house and Alice wouldn't have these sex toys. Today most girls have cell phones or if it's the 2010s they would have cameras. So, it's weird for the developer not to think about putting Lisa in front of the mirror taking pictures of herself and Max peeking on seeing what she's doing, this could trigger future events for Lisa sending nudes to her friends at school. As for Alice, she could have at least one dildo where Max discovers searching her room and triggering an event that makes him peek on her touching herself at night in her room. I never liked the idea of making Alice a lesbian, because the game never made sense to me, because she lets Max touch her. Lesbians only like women, just as fags only like men. As for toys, I think Eric's idea to bring some toys would be interesting, like blindfolds, ball gag and handcuffs for use on Ann. So it would start with the first event between Eric and Max with blindfold, second event, ball gag + blindfold, third event, ball gag, blindfold + handcuff. Max will learn to use toys from Eric or Kira. Kira or Eric could order a dildo for Alice and an anal plug for Lisa.

Ann talks about Eric proposing really soon ...
Max can listen to Eric talking to his real girlfriend when on the wallet path ... there Eric reveals that he wants the house.
I don't remember if Eric wants to kill everybody or just dump them. Since he controls Ann, marrying her would allow him to take direct control/ownership of the house.
The plot is very weak considering that Eric is using a false name and don't want to draw attention by certain people ....
I guess it was added to promote Eric from rival to villain just before Max get rid of him ...

Eric just wants to take over the house and the girls, make them his sex slaves. If his objective is not that, I wouldn't understand what the meaning of Eric's role would be. The idea of killing everyone in the house and taking over the house would not be a smart idea, it would be easier to kill Max because he is the one who gets in the way of Eric's plans. Unfortunately Eric didn't have an elaborate backstory, what it really is and what would be its purpose, if he has a wife, family, if he owes someone, or if he's just a crook.

Your memories are pretty vague and don't match what happened either. I see Eric as a stranger who sneaks into the house and Ann is not enough for him as a woman. No, he also wants to fuck her daughters and sister. Character-wise a total disaster. In the process, he abuses Ann's mental weakness. She was kidnapped and raped as a child and probably suffers from Stockholm syndrome. That's why she doesn't object to Eric's nightly visits to Alice and doesn't object to Lisa's sex-ed and agrees to punish her children, which is Eric's idea. Nor does she do anything about Erics forcing Max must go to camp. This is a totally unbelievable sick story!
That Max is a little pervert, of course, is also clear to me. It´s a porngame. There was already a camera installed by the father. He needed money to buy the bikini and dress earlier than Eric. It was important for the story.
He definitely didn't rape Kira. It was video footage and more of an SM game. Drugging Alice is a bit of a stretch. Alice is simply reacting to alcoholic candy. It was not sleeping pills or other pills that make her submissive.

Eric is not a stranger, he meets Ann in his work area and just flirts with her. He behaves like a gentleman and Ann falls in love with it, after all, she is a single mother. He doesn't abuse her mentality, she's an adult, she probably didn't tell him about her past, she likes having sex too, it's not because she's a mother that she's not be a vulgar woman. Now, look at the clothes Alice and Lisa are wearing, especially the teasing way they are, Eric just manipulates Ann, making her think she's wrong or with outdated thoughts, that's why he tries to teach Lisa sex education, with Alice, he keeps a secret from her, as he is spending money on her, giving her gifts and money for her to go out.
The punishment comes long before Ann meets Eric, because the dialogues between them saying "I thought Mom forgot this idea of punishing us". Eric just encourages Ann to spanking them naked for them to be embarrassed. In the original game, he would start punishing girls not in public, but it just happened to Alice and I couldn't see what happened.
Max doesn't rape Kira in that scene like most people think, if it was rape, Kira would react, thrashing or screaming. Kira just says ''no Max'', he just pushes it a bit and Kira gets carried away. In that you are right.

 

[Nemo56]

It shows up randomly it seem but you could walk in on Erik when Ann was in the bath at night and he would be on the phone with someone telling them the plan. You then got Kira to help you turn him over to the local mafia.

Thanks. I never seem to have stumbled across that (and got Kate's help instead)

 

[Hlextor]

Eric just manipulates Ann, making her think she's wrong or with outdated thoughts, that's why he tries to teach Lisa sex education

He doesn't abuse her mentality, she's an adult, she probably didn't tell him about her past, she likes having sex too, it's not because she's a mother that she's not be a vulgar woman.

Max tells Kira about what he overhears from Eric and his mother. That she is acting strangely. That is also the reason why Kira tells Max about Ann's childhood. She has some trouble with men like Eric. She believes everything they say and she does everything for them so that he stays with her. At the expense of her children. In reality, it happens that a drunk hits his wife. Afterward, he apologizes and regrets never doing it again. Until he is drunk again and beats her again. The man brings the woman to naught and believes that it is right when he beats her and possibly her daughter is raped by him. That´s ok for you? Fine.

with Alice, he keeps a secret from her, as he is spending money on her, giving her gifts and money for her to go out.

Yes, what does he want to achieve with the gifts? Both with Alice and with Lisa? That they like him, right? Oh, lovely Eric! You are really nice to us. Nothing more? Bullshit. That's just so he can use it to make them submissive so he can fuck them.

making her think she's wrong or with outdated thoughts, that's why he tries to teach Lisa sex education,

Yes exactly! Excellent! Yeah of course sex-Ed. And now he wants to have sex-Ed with Lisa alone in Max's room because Ann can no longer "help" as a woman/mother. He wants just to fuck her. No sex-Ed. Open your eyes and read the story.

 

[Nemo56]

What's is the console command for getting more candies ? since i ran out of them just as i started massage

Why not order them and repeat the massage the day after that?

 

[Krugger]

Max tells Kira about what he overhears from Eric and his mother. That she is acting strangely. That is also the reason why Kira tells Max about Ann's childhood. She has some trouble with men like Eric. She believes everything they say and she does everything for them so that he stays with her. At the expense of her children. In reality, it happens that a drunk hits his wife. Afterward, he apologizes and regrets never doing it again. Until he is drunk again and beats her again. The man brings the woman to naught and believes that it is right when he beats her and possibly her daughter is raped by him. That´s ok for you? Fine.

Yes, what does he want to achieve with the gifts? Both with Alice and with Lisa? That they like him, right? Oh, lovely Eric! You are really nice to us. Nothing more? Bullshit. That's just so he can use it to make them submissive so he can fuck them.

Yes exactly! Excellent! Yeah of course sex-Ed. And now he wants to have sex-Ed with Lisa alone in Max's room because Ann can no longer "help" as a woman/mother. He wants just to fuck her. No sex-Ed. Open your eyes and read the story.

I really don't remember the part where Kira tells Max a secret about Ann's past (I remember but not the full dialogue), but I remember she had been raped or something Kira left her alone when they were young. In most dialogues, I end up skipping because I'm not interested, as it was in this part. DS was never very good at plotting, but anyway... In reality, it happens that a drunk hits his wife. Afterward, he apologizes and regrets never doing it again. Until he is drunk again and beats her again. The man brings the woman to naught and believes that it is right when he beats her and possibly her daughter is raped by him. Who are you talking about?

Eric will not give Alice gifts and money for nothing. Of course he wants to gain her trust and affection to have sex with her. As for Lisa, understand why I skipped the conversation about rape and etc? Do you think Ann who went through some psychological disorder would let her boyfriend touch her daughter? But let's assume Eric knows Ann is weak-minded and always tries to blackmail her, that if it doesn't go his way he will leave his life and that makes Ann submit to him at all costs. I really wouldn't be that interested in that. I mean, wouldn't it be more practical to write a simpler and more constructive plot? is a porn game and not a life simulator. Of course Eric wants to fuck every girl in the house, otherwise it would be a boring game where the NPC is just an figurant.

I think you don't understand me. I didn't say or imply that Eric didn't want to have sex with the girls in the house. He acts like a wolf in a chicken coop, he won't touch girls without their permission or rather rape them. Sex-Ed it's just an excuse to touch Lisa and then fuck her. Hey mate, I'm not a stupid.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

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It depends on if you play on the friend route or not.
If Max does not oppose Eric, Max can join to watch when Eric and Ann have sex. In BB he even could grope Ann, I think.
Ann would not agree to this but Eric orders her to play along and she obeys. (In some scenes Ann is blindfolded and maybe in bondage, so she does not know it is Max.)
Kira reveals that Ann and she once were kidnapped and Ann stayed a week (?) alone with the kidnapper which changed Ann mentally to now obey orders from dominant persons.

 

[Nemo56]

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I think we can safely assume that he found out by himself that he can order her around. He might not be the sharpest knife in the shelf, but he is also not completely retarded.

 

[Hlextor]

Eric will not give Alice gifts and money for nothing. Of course he wants to gain her trust and affection to have sex with her. As for Lisa, understand why I skipped the conversation about rape and etc? Do you think Ann who went through some psychological disorder would let her boyfriend touch her daughter? But let's assume Eric knows Ann is weak-minded and always tries to blackmail her, that if it doesn't go his way he will leave his life and that makes Ann submit to him at all costs. I really wouldn't be that interested in that. I mean, wouldn't it be more practical to write a simpler and more constructive plot? is a porn game and not a life simulator. Of course Eric wants to fuck every girl in the house, otherwise it would be a boring game where the NPC is just an figurant.

There's this scene in BB, which will probably be in BB AS now, where Max took pictures of Eric jerking off in front of Alice's bedroom. He shrugs it off, explains something flimsy to Ann... and Ann believes him and accuses Max of doing bad things.

 

[dwalsh]

Yeah, in original, Eric was overheard by Max talking on the phone, to his real girl friend, or wife. The plain was to take the house from Ann, kick the family out, and either move in it with her, or sale it and go back to her. Original was never real clear on this plain of his, but soon after Max gets rid of Eric, so it went no further than that. Nothing about killing anyone. From Eric's wallet Max found out that Eric's real name was Victor, and he was wanted by some Mob guys are something to that effect. Seems Eric had done something very similar to the wrong lady, someone connected with these guys. So basically all Max had to do was make that phone call, and Eric swims with the fishes. Aleksey has a humane way of getting rid of Eric, so he rejected my idea of driving a railroad spike through his left eye till it pops out the back of his skull.

OK when back to the original to see this and its there. No plot murder plot from Eric anddddd...... Technicalllllyyyyy the only murder plot may come from Max on one of the paths to deal with Eric. Do you think any aspect of that specific plot will make it into BS_AS?

 

[dwalsh]

I understand BB_AS is not just a remake but revamp of the original but I have reached the point of finally dealing with Eric in very little time on the original and finished the last version with no Eric in Glamour. I realise Eric's character is one some people love to hate and others love to debate on but unless BB_AS turns out to be a huge game (content wise) or this is where the BB_AS VN changes paths and becomes another game altogether. It's getting harder for me to comprehend the level of influence Eric exerts on not just the family but the players. I've not finished the available content of the original so my argument is only from what I've seen so far and heard. But again I'm really struggling the understanding why he's taking up so space (game wise and players time). Even in the game itself he's only there in the night 2 or 3 days a week....... Why in BB_AS is he such a central figure when there is so much more of the story to go?

 

[dwalsh]

Sorry if my statement turned into a ramble in some parts I really try to keep it short but there were a lot of thoughts to condense.

 

[dwalsh]

It's a little concerning to have game that updates itself....

 

[Dino95]

can any one help how to pass the kira route i have completed watching and kissing lessons with kira and finished massage with lisa and alice open top too, but unable to get into bath with kira at night even i peek with ladder tooo. she is always in bath at 2am only?? how to procceed

 

[f96zonetrooper]

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But again I'm really struggling the understanding why he's taking up so space (game wise and players time). Even in the game itself he's only there in the night 2 or 3 days a week.......

AfaIk in BB after a certain story point Eric gained weekly influence and when reaching 100% with Ann and 2 of 3 girls (Lisa, Alice, Kira) it is a game over. Reducing Eric's weekly influence to zero is only possible if you know all actions which affect influence. This knowledge players either get from a walkthrough or by try and error. Battling Eric's influence is a job which requires to repeat these daily and weekly tasks as often as possible/necessary every day/week which is a chore. Otherwise Eric's influence will slowly increase up to 100%. I think for Alice it was a combination of 1-2 spider events (5 days cooldown to get new spider), applying sunblock (?) and daily tv event.
While learning how to effectively battle Eric is part of the challenge, endless repitition of all these steps every day/week just to prevent a game over does not add to the story nor unlocks new content. So it is good that players can get rid of Eric.

In BB_AS in current version the influence is broken and can't be effectively reduced, so players usually use the cheat menu to keep Eric's influence down.

 

[dwalsh]

I think I got lucky because I just grinded for 3 - 4 weeks and got Ann's influence to 0, Alice to 25 and Lisa to zero. It really was not that hard. I am sure I did not formulate my question properly now. So I'll rethink ask later.

 

[lancelotdulak]

Or do what i did in the original and go into console and reset it. Eric is the worst part of this game.