Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[Nemo56]

Kate (Alice's girlfriend, not the MC from Glamour) and money (Ann will most likely lose her job after Eric is gone) are only two ways that could be used directly after Eric is gone.

I'm glad you mentioned that. A "challenge" must not necessarily connected to another person, but can also be a problem that needs to be solved. Ok, 'money' is just a grind factor.

 

[gelu123]

i dont care at all about protagonist/antagonist
i like eric's portrayal of seduction way more than max one,thats why i like the character
yes glamour is cool but can be boring on the long side

Yep i find eric necessary to the story too.dev should make more events than focus on useless things like clothing. After he sorts his real life problems hope he develops the story bett , lets hope for a 2022 year of Big Brother!

 

[gelu123]

I'm glad you mentioned that. A "challenge" must not necessarily connected to another person, but can also be a problem that needs to be solved. Ok, 'money' is just a grind factor.

I was around then and ... just no. Sure, the whole construct around Ann was bonkery (including the movie storyline), but that was no different than when Eric was still around. Ann was, is and will be the most uninspiring character in the game (well, it's a close match with Kira, but Ann leads).
On one playthrough I cheated him out even (causing some quests to bug), there was nothing really missing in the game, it still had the same ups and downs, just with one less annoying good for nothnig character.

The good thing is: We can argue her all we want. He WILL be gone, The End.

The only part of after eric content that was slightly interesting was olivia and diane (olivia’s mom) content , but it never reached any conclusion.

 

[Nemo56]

Sry to tell ya mate but after eric was gone the game was goin downwards and lost its touch [...]

I was around then and ... just no. Sure, the whole construct around Ann was bonkers (including the movie storyline), but that was no different than when Eric was still around. Ann was, is and will be the most uninspiring character in the game (well, it's a close match with Kira, but Ann leads).
On one playthrough I cheated him out even (causing some quests to bug), there was nothing really missing in the game, it still had the same ups and downs, just with one less annoying good for nothnig character.

The good thing is: We can argue her all we want. He WILL be gone, The End.

 

[Nemo56]

Facts simply don't care about your feelings. If you don't like the game, don't play, facts don't care.

I actually play this game becasue I like to play a fucked up little shit for a change
Let's be honest: Max needs mental help ... badly

 

[Ignazzio]

Facts simply don't care about your feelings. If you don't like the game, don't play, facts don't care.

You're overusing Shapiro's quote a bit. Opinions about characters are subjective by definition. Eric is in a game as well as friendship path with him and that's a simple fact. He'll will surely be removed on other paths but at this point there is not enough data to say he's done on that one. Dev seems to be aware of what happened with BB after Eric got removed so that's that as well. I struggle to understand why people still argue about this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 2755092]

I struggle to understand why people still argue about this stuff.

Because they care about the game and/or its characters, nothing more to it than that

 

[Ignazzio]

Please remain delusional, we're testing update now. I'll just let you see for yourself, then tell me all about your friendship with Eric, and how that works out for you. Truth cannot be overused.

Truth is just an objective statement about reality. This quote indeed can be overused. You're making a lot of logical fallacies using it in a wrong context. We shall see. For all available data we have it's as good of an assumption as any other. May be wrong but still reasonable at given time.

 

[Summer Love]

Then it will get better or at least be more enjoyable.


No, it's not. This "struggle" was annoying, nothing else. Most story arcs have nothing to do with Eric in the first place, he is only present in very few arcs and ... I don't miss him in these. It's a lot more fun to find out how to manipulate Alice (first) with liquor pralines, with pranks and some nice actions, than interrupt anything that Eric might or might not be doing. Gladly, he doesn't do much, so one has not to bother too much. If you remember to poison him on a regular base you hardly notice he's here. The struggle defines only a very small part of the game which can be ignored easily.
What I am looking for is not a obsolete struggle with a virtual character, but fun writing, a little bit of finding out what to do next, discovering new events and opportunities, maybe also a bit problem solving. For all that I don't need a Eric. Back in the Days I found Man of the House very nice. Again ... no Eric.

You mentioned something like the game being a VN without Eric. The gameplay mechanics have little to nothing to do with it's content. There are VNs with arch enemies and there are free roaming games without.
BB is actually one of the games, that almost go towards the adventure game play, more than most free roaming games. Find out what to do, look for items, talk to people, use stuff. What I miss a bit, are more combinations compared to the old aif text adventures. But since everything has to be rendered these days, that won't come back. Did you notice that I didn't mention Eric here? He is not part of the gameplay mechanics, these won't change once he's gone.

Eric might not be the only threat in this game, but he is an important one. As I said before, he represents something the player must take action against to win his harem. As of right now, he doesn't do too much, but he might, and should, do more, because as I said before: his role makes the player fight for his/her nudes. If you don't like that then I'm sorry, but I'm sure there are a plethora of cheat mods that will get made to hand-deliver your dopamine fix to your fried brain receptors.

Even after Eric gets canned, because he is 100% getting taken care of in one way shape or form as I know understand. There has to be something, or else the game will turn into Dark Silvers Big Brother after Eric got voted out completely. There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

 

[armion82]

Eric might not be the only threat in this game, but he is an important one. As I said before, he represents something the player must take action against to win his harem. As of right now, he doesn't do too much, but he might, and should, do more, because as I said before: his role makes the player fight for his/her nudes. If you don't like that then I'm sorry, but I'm sure there are a plethora of cheat mods that will get made to hand-deliver your dopamine fix to your fried brain receptors.

Even after Eric gets canned, because he is 100% getting taken care of in one way shape or form as I know understand. There has to be something, or else the game will turn into Dark Silvers Big Brother after Eric got voted out completely. There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

You must understand something.One way or another,sooner or later you have to get rid of Eric.Otherwise you will reach the Game Over sign.Don't forget that Eric is not that important as Max or any of the girls.

 

[Nemo56]

There was nothing to do at all except follow the little guide that was made with the $30 dollar Patreon tier, click away at the buttons, and then never touch the game again once you'd seen all the new shit the update brought until the new month rolled around. THAT was a VN with extra steps, and if this game follows in it's parents foot steps, then we will be looking at another dead project.

I played too many non dead projects without a Eric character to share that opinion.

What do you do with Eric IN the game? Yes, exactly: You click buttons, maybe following a guide that was made witzh the $30 Patreon tier.

Eric might be a more or less important thread for the beginning of the game, by now he has lost most importance - some would argue about that.
But there is one thing that's for sure: He'll be gone soon. Then you might get proven right and the game will die because too many Eric lovers leave, or it won't.

 

[maxbishup]

Ok, I'm through with telling anyone anything about the game, believe whatever you like, if it works for you, it works for me.

 

[Valoryn]

I'd like a direction in the game were Max and Eric are in an endless tug of war (or cooperation) to getting the girls where one could even cuck the other due to losing too much points or making bad decisions. If the player likes Eric, then have Max make bad decisions. If the player likes Max, then have Max make good decisions. And yes, get the girls fucked by Eric or Max or both. I'm guessing that might satisfy everybody? This is another story after all. My 2 cents.

 

[Abaco123]

In the past update the dev saie that "because of the new clothing system... we did not have time to add much to the game regarding the path of friendship with Eric." And that more will come in the next update; now the supposed beta-testers said that this path now leads to a game over. (This Is what they wrote at least, can't verify personally yet).
If that's the truth, that Is really disappointing, It clearly wasn't set up to end so abruptly.
The only explanation that i can think of Is that now the patrons that shill a lot of money for the game pressured him into doing so.
As Eva Kiss said "making compromises Is unavoidable but artistic integrity should be Paramount"; and look at her games, no one Is complaining there, they have different paths and different kinks so there Is something for everyone.
Why force people that likes different thing from you out of the game? Even considering that if you don't like one path you can just play the other.
But no, let's make a game with no variety and no choices that will surely make it better.

 

[gelu123]

In the past update the dev saie that "because of the new clothing system... we did not have time to add much to the game regarding the path of friendship with Eric." And that more will come in the next update; now the supposed beta-testers said that this path now leads to a game over. (This Is what they wrote at least, can't verify personally yet).
If that's the truth, that Is really disappointing, It clearly wasn't set up to end so abruptly.
The only explanation that i can think of Is that now the patrons that shill a lot of money for the game pressured him into doing so.
As Eva Kiss said "making compromises Is unavoidable but artistic integrity should be Paramount"; and look at her games, no one Is complaining there, they have different paths and different kinks so there Is something for everyone.
Why force people that likes different thing from you out of the game? Even considering that if you don't like one path you can just play the other.
But no, let's make a game with no variety and no choices that will surely make it better.

If aleksey really goes that way than game will be dead and no reason to pay or patreon it over glamour or old bb…

 

[maxbishup]

In the past update the dev saie that "because of the new clothing system... we did not have time to add much to the game regarding the path of friendship with Eric." And that more will come in the next update; now the supposed beta-testers said that this path now leads to a game over. (This Is what the wrote at least, can't verify personally yet).
If that's the truth, that Is really disappointing, It clearly wasn't set up to end so abruptly.
The only explanation that i can think of Is that now the patrons that shill a lot of money for the game pressured him into doing so.
As Eva Kiss said "making compromises Is unavoidable but artistic integrity should be Paramount"; and look at her games, no one Is complaining there, they have different paths and different kinks so there Is something for everyone.
Why force people that likes different thing from you out of the game? Even considering that if you don't like one path you can just play the other.
But no, let's make a game with no variety and no choices that will surely make it better.

Ok, let me explain, you do not have to get rid of Eric in the next update. There are facts that you should know, but people don't like facts, so I'll just stop right there. And yes, your right friendship with Eric will continue in another update. Who knows maybe you'll get to do everything you always wanted to with Eric? Maybe Tinker bell will show up, and they will live happily ever after. Put your money own whatever horse you like, we'll get there.

 

[Zane11]

In the original version, the whole game for me was the hoops the MC had to go through in order to seduce the ladies. Yes it ended up as a harem game, but it was the most organic one I've played (if such a thing exists). In most harem games, pretty soon you are fucking everybody. BB was the only game that actually made me feel like I earned it. The mom especially was a pain in the ass to crack which makes perfect sense considering she is your mom and of course she should hesitate. Even seducing Alice was fun because she seemed to hate you at the beginning, yet you slowly corrupted her with the blog and porn.

For me that was the point of the game and what I enjoyed. Eric got in the way of all that and that's why I wanted him gone. For me he was an obstacle on the road to playing the real game. Yes a little challenge is good, but jumping through the ladies' hoops was enough for me. After all it's a porn game, if I want strategy I prefer Age of Empires lol

 

[Zane11]

Yeah, that sums it up right there. I mean we're not going to fight in the game, only overcome obstacles. Eric is one of them, but just one, there will be others. Oh, and I prefer Age of Empires III.

I prefer Age2, no offence 11
Though I am currently having quite a bit of fun with Age4

 

[matschbirne]

good old times, the cheats still works with the cars and cows?

 

[Zane11]

good old times, the cheats still works with the cars and cows?

Oh yes, they even added the Cobra Cars in remastered Definitive Edition!