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For real, it's happening in the other current version already. I'm not a fan of where that version is going
Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]
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The other game kind lost his appeal when DS killed Kate´s path by merging with BB side quest. Also not a fan of lisa model on that game
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Yeah, that one was completely bonkers. What I did like was that different storylines merged at some point, but the Ann's storyline ... oh my.
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Seems it's gonna get worst too, total derailment of a story. Without Eric that version of Max was already creepy now it's.......wow. Not seeing Aleksey going that way though. I think he's roughly at the point where this stops being a remake and he starts making it his own.
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In my opinion he added plenty already. I just played the first one for old times sake and that one is so ... dry.
The massage at the pool? Either it succeeds or not, top of or not. Use spider. Success yes/no. There are just 2 pictures for the spider prank. In BBAS we have different options, more pictures from the beginning, at some point Max can grab Alilce's boobs and later he has to make her hide behind him, so she puts her hands on his private parts.
Yes, at some point in the original the sensual massage was introduced, I'm usre we will get that one too at some point.
Spying in the shower? 2 pics max. Success or get caught by Ann. In BBAS there are different positions, camera angles. And there are of course the "stick or carrot" and "who doesn't takes risks" opportunities connected to it, nice renders when you give the girls choccolate as an apology.
Aleksey did a great job bringing more variaty to the game.
People who say these two games are identical ... they could not be more wrong. The road to certain goals may be longer in this game, but it's much much much more interesting.
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Panther said it during and exchange a while back, and after running through a few sandbox games well since his statement stands true. It's hard to get a good storyline in sandbox games. The repetitive nature of these type of games can really kill a storyline. But so far so good here ( accept during the points where I'm frustrated looking for triggers
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Agreed, and the playing field MUST be even. Hate VN's when Devs tease the impossibility then make almost impossible to play the path you want. Its best they just put a Kinetic tag on those.
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I think repetition and grind are gameplay devices to create the illusion of agency - ie. at the end of the process, the payoff happens because of your own merit rather than it being predetermined or kinetic, which greatly increases the mental payoff for the player.
But IMO repetition don't necessarily have to affect story telling. The story basically pauses for a period where you grind to be able to continue, so it's conceptually like time dilation.
Repetition and grind isn't necessarily bad. Besides agency, it also enables progression towards increasingly more lewd scenes which is incredibly effective (though usually executed unimaginatively and predictably - handjob -> blowjob -> titjob -> pussy -> ass -- but that can be fixed by engaging brain when writing/designing).
The only problem with grinding is the amounts of it. 98% of games get it wrong, for various reasons; incompetence, misguided attempts to extend total playtime, all the way to overt sadism and contempt for players (I've definitely seen it happen).
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Fair points but I'll argue if your to focused on game mechanics you loose a lot of time on enjoying the story. On of the absolute best execution of sandbox/VN mechanics was done in DeLuca Family where there is a sandbox mode where you can free roam and complete Character building events then move to the VN mode to progress the storyline. Which BTW is incredibly well written. Coming back to BBAS, that's why I give him his props he's making a complicated sandbox game and still trying to keep a story going. I've seen a lot of sandbox games fall into just a hunt for lewd scenes that are completely incoherent.
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If you only click on "latest bug fix", in the OP, you'll see we're at 0.07.P2.06.
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You know be even easier if there was a mod where I could slit his throat watch him choke on his blood as he accuses me of theft at night then bury him in the backyard and watch the spiders feast on his corpse. Fuck that guy.
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Even in so called sandbox games repetition isn't necessary, it just gives the illusion of doing something while waiting for the next update. Of course people also want some stuff to be repeatable, espesiclly the lewd stuff ('how can I unlock the gallery?'), but it's not a prequisite.
MotH started with stats first, then got completely changed to a pure event based game. Yes, there were progress stars, they inidicated how much many of the events you already had seen, and that unlocked certain actions or other events, so basically it was a 'relationship level'. But there was no stat grinding (except that you had to deliver pizza for money) and no decay.
House Party has stats, but those basically only mean that you can fuck up completely and block your way with a girl. All the content is implemented like in an adventure.
The first AIF games I played were actually text adventures, most of them without any game relevant stats (In 'Moist' you could get the girls horny so they would basically jump you or you could 'convince' them). Since there were no images to render, all development time went into story and lewd scenes descriptions.
Those games were much more daring than the modern visual novels, as writer you could get away with everything
Who hasn't played them yet and has a tiny rest of immagination left in his multimedia fileld brain should try them. But be aware, back then no one cared if there's NTR in the game or incest or whatever, no patreons who decided what the next updated was gonna be about. There was just the story. In one guy you play a female spy who uses both skills and body assets to get what she wants. In Sam Shooter the MC was the guy spreading his genes worldwide, but later in the series he got to share his sister with others on several occasions and at some point she would cause a distraction by banging a group of cops.
MotH started with stats first, then got completely changed to a pure event based game. Yes, there were progress stars, they inidicated how much many of the events you already had seen, and that unlocked certain actions or other events, so basically it was a 'relationship level'. But there was no stat grinding (except that you had to deliver pizza for money) and no decay.
House Party has stats, but those basically only mean that you can fuck up completely and block your way with a girl. All the content is implemented like in an adventure.
The first AIF games I played were actually text adventures, most of them without any game relevant stats (In 'Moist' you could get the girls horny so they would basically jump you or you could 'convince' them). Since there were no images to render, all development time went into story and lewd scenes descriptions.
Those games were much more daring than the modern visual novels, as writer you could get away with everything
Who hasn't played them yet and has a tiny rest of immagination left in his multimedia fileld brain should try them. But be aware, back then no one cared if there's NTR in the game or incest or whatever, no patreons who decided what the next updated was gonna be about. There was just the story. In one guy you play a female spy who uses both skills and body assets to get what she wants. In Sam Shooter the MC was the guy spreading his genes worldwide, but later in the series he got to share his sister with others on several occasions and at some point she would cause a distraction by banging a group of cops.
We are on the same page there. What i feel is required after Eric is gone is a new hurdle to overcome, maybe forcing Max to get an actual job or something, instead of just staying at home being useless.
Imagine Lotr without Sauron and Orcs and the quest to Mordor, it would just be some guys drinking beer and strolling throught the fields. I don´t need something that epic, only something to make the final reward more sweet.
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Apparantely that was Aleksey's plan from the beginning, even before BBAS was changed from a pure follow up to a remake.
The job was always present in the plans for the future.
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