Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.07.01] [Aleksey90]

[Shiva0067]

-FAKE- Breaking News -FAKE-

The voices in my head have discovered that with the current GLOBAL health situation this game will be taking a NEW and EXCITING direction. Yes the game will now be a series of COOKING classes. We should all PRAISE Aleksey90 for accepting the need of his supporters in these times. The first update will be how to boil water. Lesson 2 is planned to be steaming rice. Part 3 will be baking Chocolate Chip Cookies.

-End of Fake-

I have played the fix and think the animation was nice. I look forward to the next update, and hope that we see lots more content like hugs and kisses.

Just a thought.

 

[SuddenReal]

I don't think it's chiseled in stone that Eric must be kicked out. (I'm only sure that we can git rid of him) But it would seem that if Ann and Max are going to be in the porn movies, then Eric must go at some point.

Oh God, I forgot about that story line. I'm in favor of just skipping that bit. I mean, it's the proof of lazy writing. How can we make sure that the mom is engaged in a sexual relationship with her son? Oh, I know, let's force them to do porn! I'm sorry, but in these types of games isn't the whole point that whoever the MC persues finds out on their own that the MC is a suitable partner? Especially this one, where Max wants to prove he's the alpha male instead of Eric, but no, Ann doesn't and will never see Max as the alpha, and just have sex with him because she needs to financially. I know most MC's in these sort of games do all sort of backhanded tricks to get what they want, but I've always found Max to be the most devious and weakest of them. In other games, the MC's assert their dominance once their manipulations pay off, but Max is just... well, deep down he's a beta who's dreaming of being an alpha and will always be so. I know I'm not the only one thinking this, I mean, there's enough people in this thread asking if Max can be more assertive this time around, rather than relying on Kira and the others so much. Mentoring is one thing, having others do all the work is non-alpha behaviour. So I'm sure none of those people would mind skipping the whole porn plot line (which I'm sure was also DS panicking since he had no idea what to do after the forced exit of Eric) and find some other way to do the nasty with Ann which shows that Max has some backbone.

 

[maxbishup]

Oh God, I forgot about that story line. I'm in favor of just skipping that bit. I mean, it's the proof of lazy writing. How can we make sure that the mom is engaged in a sexual relationship with her son? Oh, I know, let's force them to do porn! I'm sorry, but in these types of games isn't the whole point that whoever the MC persues finds out on their own that the MC is a suitable partner? Especially this one, where Max wants to prove he's the alpha male instead of Eric, but no, Ann doesn't and will never see Max as the alpha, and just have sex with him because she needs to financially. I know most MC's in these sort of games do all sort of backhanded tricks to get what they want, but I've always found Max to be the most devious and weakest of them. In other games, the MC's assert their dominance once their manipulations pay off, but Max is just... well, deep down he's a beta who's dreaming of being an alpha and will always be so. I know I'm not the only one thinking this, I mean, there's enough people in this thread asking if Max can be more assertive this time around, rather than relying on Kira and the others so much. Mentoring is one thing, having others do all the work is non-alpha behaviour. So I'm sure none of those people would mind skipping the whole porn plot line (which I'm sure was also DS panicking since he had no idea what to do after the forced exit of Eric) and find some other way to do the nasty with Ann which shows that Max has some backbone.

Unless we're going to have 2 completely separate paths(2 games in one will result in slow updates)I think Eric must go at some point. Please note that NTR could still be in game. As for Max, yes I hope he grows a pair in this version.(NOTE: I have ask Aleksey about this and he will not say that we must get rid of Eric, only that we can)

 

[SuddenReal]

Unless we're going to have 2 completely separate paths(2 games in one will result in slow updates)I think Eric must go at some point. Please note that NTR could still be in game. As for Max, yes I hope he grows a pair in this version.

Oh, I'm not saying I don't want Eric to go, just that we get something better than the whole lazy porn plot. I mean, if we scrap that whole "Ann gets fired" thing which is the "reason" for the porn, I don't see a reason why Eric/non-Eric storylines couldn't run similar. Any event that happens in an Eric storyline could then still happen in a non-Eric storyline. Just an idea that just popped in my head: a work event where there's an important client and Eric pimps Ann out can easily come a work event where Max scores with a femal associate of said client to get the same deal (something for way further down the line, of course). Just saying, the whole porn story line limits a two story path, while scrapping it opens things further. Remember why DS scrapped the Olivia storyline, because he believed Max's attention would focus on Olivia alone (shows he doesn't know what kind of perverts we are), while it's easy to incorporate Lisa further in that storyline.

Also, two separate paths are already implied, because if Eric leaves, there's still has to be content with Eric for the people who want NTR and don't want to get rid of Eric. It's easier to have the stories run similar, rather than just switch up the schedule for one path, because that will result in two games in one.

 

[maxbishup]

Oh, I'm not saying I don't want Eric to go, just that we get something better than the whole lazy porn plot. I mean, if we scrap that whole "Ann gets fired" thing which is the "reason" for the porn, I don't see a reason why Eric/non-Eric storylines couldn't run similar. Any event that happens in an Eric storyline could then still happen in a non-Eric storyline. Just an idea that just popped in my head: a work event where there's an important client and Eric pimps Ann out can easily come a work event where Max scores with a femal associate of said client to get the same deal (something for way further down the line, of course). Just saying, the whole porn story line limits a two story path, while scrapping it opens things further. Remember why DS scrapped the Olivia storyline, because he believed Max's attention would focus on Olivia alone (shows he doesn't know what kind of perverts we are), while it's easy to incorporate Lisa further in that storyline.

Also, two separate paths are already implied, because if Eric leaves, there's still has to be content with Eric for the people who want NTR and don't want to get rid of Eric. It's easier to have the stories run similar, rather than just switch up the schedule for one path, because that will result in two games in one.

I don't think Aleksey has said that there will be NTR throughout the game.(I maybe wrong) I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one. Aleksey did say we could make friends with Eric, not how long it will last. After Eric, I hope most if not all NTR will be outside the home. (If Ann marries Eric it's GAME OVER I think)

 

[armion82]

I don't think Aleksey has said that there will be NTR throughout the game.(I maybe wrong) I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one. Aleksey did say we could make friends with Eric, not how long it will last. After Eric, I hope most if not all NTR will be outside the home. (If Ann marries Eric it's GAME OVER I think)

I don't think there will be realy NTR in the game.After all Max don't have a GF at all,so we can forget about that.
Also we probably have to kick Eric out sooner or later,or there will be Game Over.

 

[SuddenReal]

I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one.

Well, remember in the original, after you kicked out Eric, there was a period when Ann went to work before getting fired? Well, that part. Face it, Eric gone or not, during the day, it doesn't matter. He's a non-factor for most of the week anyway. He's only over, what, two, three days? And even then, it's from 8 PM till 6 AM. You can still put the same events in both story lines (with either Max or Eric taking advantage from them) but in the end, there's no "oh, here's an entire story arc with Ann that doesn't involve Eric, in the middle of the day".

 

[maxbishup]

Well, remember in the original, after you kicked out Eric, there was a period when Ann went to work before getting fired? Well, that part. Face it, Eric gone or not, during the day, it doesn't matter. He's a non-factor for most of the week anyway. He's only over, what, two, three days? And even then, it's from 8 PM till 6 AM. You can still put the same events in both story lines (with either Max or Eric taking advantage from them) but in the end, there's no "oh, here's an entire story arc with Ann that doesn't involve Eric, in the middle of the day".

Yes I remember the original, BIG BROTHER THE INCEST STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Don't remember it as BIG BROTHER THE WE LOVE ERIC NTR STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Just kidding I'm ok with players keeping Eric (NTR) if they like, and I'm fine without porn movies. I would be ok if no incest. (Just don't remove spanking) But Ann is thinking of marrying Eric. I'm defiantly not the last word on this game, just one Patreon among many. My biggest hope, the fans of original BB get some satisfaction.

 

[SuddenReal]

Yes I remember the original, BIG BROTHER THE INCEST STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Don't remember it as BIG BROTHER THE WE LOVE ERIC NTR STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Just kidding I'm ok with players keeping Eric (NTR) if they like, and I'm fine without porn movies. I would be ok if no incest. (Just don't remove spanking) But Ann is thinking of marrying Eric. I'm defiantly not the last word on this game, just one Patreon among many. My biggest hope, the fans of original BB get some satisfaction.

I think we're not on the same page here. I'm not saying "push the NTR up with Eric". I'm just saying there's no reason why the story lines have to be completely divergent wether Eric is there or not. Also, "no one's talking about marriage yet, Max".

 

[Gary_Indiana]

I think we're not on the same page here. I'm not saying "push the NTR up with Eric". I'm just saying there's no reason why the story lines have to be completely divergent wether Eric is there or not. Also, "no one's talking about marriage yet, Max".

It is interesting how different people view the original game. For me it was always a coming of age/corruption story with Max deciding what kind of man he was going to be and he would do that by confronting the corrupting influences on his family.

So a wish list for me would be a story with three major paths and let's say four corrupting influences (Eric, Kate, Kira and the unknown porn producer for example)

First path would be the Alpha/Harem path where you have to go to war with each corrupting influence in turn and set clear boundaries. This would be the grindiest path with the game logic being that you have no help in corrupting your family and have to do all the corrupting on your own. It would also net you the least amount of girls (Mom, Lisa, Alice and Kira) again with the game logic being that these girls, once the taboo is broken, turn awfully shrewish and they want to "keep it in the family" as it were

Second path would be the average joe path with average grind which would let the corrupting influences do a bit of corrupting but with you the MC setting some red lines.

Third path would be the Submissive path which would be the least grind and the max amount sexual experiences with max amount of girls but with the twist that this is happening to the MC and you have no control over it.

Endings could be for example alpha path you set up your own porn company with your family as actresses and MC as the main actor/producer

For average joe maybe the MC ends up going to college with Olivia as your GF but comes home for holidays to give mom and sisters a twirl

And for third path maybe you end up working in Kate's Mom's basement as her boy toy.

Yeah I've thought way too much about this. Maybe I should do my own BB clone.

 

[maxbishup]

I think we're not on the same page here. I'm not saying "push the NTR up with Eric". I'm just saying there's no reason why the story lines have to be completely divergent wether Eric is there or not. Also, "no one's talking about marriage yet, Max".

Ok sorry about that. I really hope Aleksey can pull it off for both sides of NTR. (Without long delay between updates) Some times I blur line between original and this game. But so far talk at dinner table is very close to original.(That lead to marriage talk by Ann) It was a long time ago that I played original BB.

 

[alefrago]

it would be better to see a little different story if possible not the same story with just some changes, different images on the already existing game...it would be greater i propose if all family at the start would be all innocent including aunt kira, and Eric was the person to blackmail them all for sexual favors including stupid silly max, helping him be more man later maybe..please keep in mind as an alternative or additional route maybe

 

[SuddenReal]

it would be better to see a little different story if possible not the same story with just some changes, different images on the already existing game...it would be greater i propose if all family at the start would be all innocent including aunt kira, and Eric was the person to blackmail them all for sexual favors including stupid silly max, helping him be more man later maybe..please keep in mind as an alternative or additional route maybe

That reminds me of that giant plothole. Eric has sex with Kira because he's blackmailing her with a picture of her having sex with Max. How the hell did he get a picture, since he was supposed to be out shopping with Ann at that time and no pictures were taken during that scene? I thought that was the dumbest thing ever (which should have been my first red flag for lazy writing), so I hope there's a better reason now for them to have sex (I don't even care if she uses the old "he's just so charming" line, that's way better than the non-existant blackmail photo).

 

[alefrago]

That reminds me of that giant plothole. Eric has sex with Kira because he's blackmailing her with a picture of her having sex with Max. How the hell did he get a picture, since he was supposed to be out shopping with Ann at that time and no pictures were taken during that scene? I thought that was the dumbest thing ever (which should have been my first red flag for lazy writing), so I hope there's a better reason now for them to have sex (I don't even care if she uses the old "he's just so charming" line, that's way better than the non-existant blackmail photo).

i had not realized that when was playing the game..maybe you are right....nice to mention it...i would like to see more NTR in the game more changes in the story...would be more interesting

 

[MarcCollins89]

Where's the animation?

 

[SuddenReal]

Where's the animation?

When you spy on Eric and Ann.

 

[Old Wolf]

alefrago

"... it would be better, I suggest that the whole family at first be completely innocent, including Aunt Kira,"

a virtuous porn star ? - an interesting idea

 

[maxbishup]

NEW FROM PATREON Ann and Eric for next update

 

[alefrago]

Old wolf ...you are the man

 

[Krugger]

I recently started to dislike NTR, so theoretically I try to avoid. There are many games that fail to do well in this role, BB is one of the only ones that can, because you can kick Eric out of the house. I think it interesting to have a lot of Eric's NTR but knowing that the player will be able to remove him from the game at a certain time. On the issue of game over, sometimes I’m not a fan, because you’ll have to play everything again. Anyway, this idea of marriage between Ann and Eric and the game giving game over is interesting, but it would be more interesting for Eric to start having Max's sisters. It is logical that any player will try to prevent this, because with this path the player will have two choices, lose the game or share the women of the house with Eric.