Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.08.02] [Aleksey90]

[SuddenReal]

Aleksey is asking Patreons what they think of the animation in game, and what would they like to see.

The animation is pretty good. As for what we would like to see? You mean what would we like animated or in general? Well, either way, multiple angles is always nice (concerning the MC obviously). Also, not removing old scenes would be nice. DS had the tendency when the story progressed, we wouldn't be able to do previous scenes anymore (the sunbathing scene with Alice comes to mind). Giving multiple options over time would be nice too. Playing out the same scenes over and over again does come tedious, so as the relationship progresses, giving more options available would be nice (to use the sunbathing scene again, if you get to the point you get a blowjob from Alice, the option to get one during that scene).

And maybe my biggest gripe with DS, make choices matter! I'm not talking about life-changing decisions, but in the original (and still in the current breakfast and dinner step, and when you give the cigarettes to Alice) you have a choice to reply and no matter what you reply, it's the same result. So, why put it in? It just slows down the gameplay (especially if it's a repeatable scene you need to do). I mean, there's the illusion of choice, but this is just ridiculous. So, have some different outcomes when you pick a certain response or just drop it after the first few times.

 

[armion82]

Aleksey is asking Patreons what they think of the animation in game, and what would they like to see.

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I would like to know what you think.

I was waiting for more updates to be done and then to play the game,so I don't know how good is the animation.
Otherwise maybe he should animate the yoga with Ann and the massage scene with Alice.

 

[maxbishup]

The animation is pretty good. As for what we would like to see? You mean what would we like animated or in general? Well, either way, multiple angles is always nice (concerning the MC obviously). Also, not removing old scenes would be nice. DS had the tendency when the story progressed, we wouldn't be able to do previous scenes anymore (the sunbathing scene with Alice comes to mind). Giving multiple options over time would be nice too. Playing out the same scenes over and over again does come tedious, so as the relationship progresses, giving more options available would be nice (to use the sunbathing scene again, if you get to the point you get a blowjob from Alice, the option to get one during that scene).

And maybe my biggest gripe with DS, make choices matter! I'm not talking about life-changing decisions, but in the original (and still in the current breakfast and dinner step, and when you give the cigarettes to Alice) you have a choice to reply and no matter what you reply, it's the same result. So, why put it in? It just slows down the gameplay (especially if it's a repeatable scene you need to do). I mean, there's the illusion of choice, but this is just ridiculous. So, have some different outcomes when you pick a certain response or just drop it after the first few times.

From Aleksey

In the future, when the main character will take part in hot scenes, the animation will be present in various angles, shooting plans, and speeds.

Sometimes there will even be a choice between them.

This does not mean that the game will be inundated with heaps of animation. No, it will be in moderation, so that it can not get bored.

 

[Max Headroom]

But for simple editing did you try Save Editor ?
Just out of curiosity, why do you need to decode / re-code the save file?

Thanks for your reply.
No I tried the save editor for the original (didn't find the other) and it freaks out yelling something with date error...

Why? I figured out what Aleksey did so that the old v0.02 saves don't work anymore and I wanted to try if I'm right but this don't work without full access to the save data.

edit: but meanwhile I started new with cheated money so the gameflow is a little faster

 

[Max Headroom]

Let me ask:
when doing Lisas homework first without reward, you will never can ask for it later and same with Alice smoking in the yard?
When I remember right it was the same in the original BB.

 

[Krugger]

I played this latest version with bug fix and the only thing I didn't like was that the developer used the same dialog as the beginning of the DSilver BB game. Anyway, I see this game as a promise, because there are some things that are interesting. I really don't mind putting animations in the game , I'm not against or in favor and I know there are a lot of users who prefer games that contain animations, so it's kind of mandatory.
I am waiting for the next updates that Max's ability to massage the girls of the house will come and that will also serve to Lisa. Even because she may have some back pain while doing homework at school, isn't it?
And I also hope that there are more events in the house, especially in the lounge and that Max can buy some movies to watch with every type of woman in the house. Anyway, I don't care if there is sexual harassment in the game, but that is the author's decision but I wish there were.

 

[maxbishup]

New pic from patreon (for next update) Titled: COME TO ME

 

[Old Wolf]

Titled: COME TO ME .

There should be more such scenes.
A kiss for washing away from girls, for killing a spider, for cloths.
A kiss on the forehead, on the nose, in the ear
First intimate relationships.

Таких сцен должно быть больше.
Поцелуй для смывания девушек, для убийства паука, для одежды.
Поцелуй в лоб, в нос, в ухо
Первые интимные отношения.

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[randomnamez]

We will get rid of Eric in the next 3 or 4 updates. There will be a number of ways to do this.

But will Eric be still in it? As in, there is a two "paths" one where Eric is gone, another where Eric is not stopped?

 

[maxbishup]

But will Eric be still in it? As in, there is a two "paths" one where Eric is gone, another where Eric is not stopped?

I don't think it's chiseled in stone that Eric must be kicked out. (I'm only sure that we can git rid of him) But it would seem that if Ann and Max are going to be in the porn movies, then Eric must go at some point.

 

[Shiva0067]

-FAKE- Breaking News -FAKE-

The voices in my head have discovered that with the current GLOBAL health situation this game will be taking a NEW and EXCITING direction. Yes the game will now be a series of COOKING classes. We should all PRAISE Aleksey90 for accepting the need of his supporters in these times. The first update will be how to boil water. Lesson 2 is planned to be steaming rice. Part 3 will be baking Chocolate Chip Cookies.

-End of Fake-

I have played the fix and think the animation was nice. I look forward to the next update, and hope that we see lots more content like hugs and kisses.

Just a thought.

 

[SuddenReal]

I don't think it's chiseled in stone that Eric must be kicked out. (I'm only sure that we can git rid of him) But it would seem that if Ann and Max are going to be in the porn movies, then Eric must go at some point.

Oh God, I forgot about that story line. I'm in favor of just skipping that bit. I mean, it's the proof of lazy writing. How can we make sure that the mom is engaged in a sexual relationship with her son? Oh, I know, let's force them to do porn! I'm sorry, but in these types of games isn't the whole point that whoever the MC persues finds out on their own that the MC is a suitable partner? Especially this one, where Max wants to prove he's the alpha male instead of Eric, but no, Ann doesn't and will never see Max as the alpha, and just have sex with him because she needs to financially. I know most MC's in these sort of games do all sort of backhanded tricks to get what they want, but I've always found Max to be the most devious and weakest of them. In other games, the MC's assert their dominance once their manipulations pay off, but Max is just... well, deep down he's a beta who's dreaming of being an alpha and will always be so. I know I'm not the only one thinking this, I mean, there's enough people in this thread asking if Max can be more assertive this time around, rather than relying on Kira and the others so much. Mentoring is one thing, having others do all the work is non-alpha behaviour. So I'm sure none of those people would mind skipping the whole porn plot line (which I'm sure was also DS panicking since he had no idea what to do after the forced exit of Eric) and find some other way to do the nasty with Ann which shows that Max has some backbone.

 

[maxbishup]

Oh God, I forgot about that story line. I'm in favor of just skipping that bit. I mean, it's the proof of lazy writing. How can we make sure that the mom is engaged in a sexual relationship with her son? Oh, I know, let's force them to do porn! I'm sorry, but in these types of games isn't the whole point that whoever the MC persues finds out on their own that the MC is a suitable partner? Especially this one, where Max wants to prove he's the alpha male instead of Eric, but no, Ann doesn't and will never see Max as the alpha, and just have sex with him because she needs to financially. I know most MC's in these sort of games do all sort of backhanded tricks to get what they want, but I've always found Max to be the most devious and weakest of them. In other games, the MC's assert their dominance once their manipulations pay off, but Max is just... well, deep down he's a beta who's dreaming of being an alpha and will always be so. I know I'm not the only one thinking this, I mean, there's enough people in this thread asking if Max can be more assertive this time around, rather than relying on Kira and the others so much. Mentoring is one thing, having others do all the work is non-alpha behaviour. So I'm sure none of those people would mind skipping the whole porn plot line (which I'm sure was also DS panicking since he had no idea what to do after the forced exit of Eric) and find some other way to do the nasty with Ann which shows that Max has some backbone.

Unless we're going to have 2 completely separate paths(2 games in one will result in slow updates)I think Eric must go at some point. Please note that NTR could still be in game. As for Max, yes I hope he grows a pair in this version.(NOTE: I have ask Aleksey about this and he will not say that we must get rid of Eric, only that we can)

 

[SuddenReal]

Unless we're going to have 2 completely separate paths(2 games in one will result in slow updates)I think Eric must go at some point. Please note that NTR could still be in game. As for Max, yes I hope he grows a pair in this version.

Oh, I'm not saying I don't want Eric to go, just that we get something better than the whole lazy porn plot. I mean, if we scrap that whole "Ann gets fired" thing which is the "reason" for the porn, I don't see a reason why Eric/non-Eric storylines couldn't run similar. Any event that happens in an Eric storyline could then still happen in a non-Eric storyline. Just an idea that just popped in my head: a work event where there's an important client and Eric pimps Ann out can easily come a work event where Max scores with a femal associate of said client to get the same deal (something for way further down the line, of course). Just saying, the whole porn story line limits a two story path, while scrapping it opens things further. Remember why DS scrapped the Olivia storyline, because he believed Max's attention would focus on Olivia alone (shows he doesn't know what kind of perverts we are), while it's easy to incorporate Lisa further in that storyline.

Also, two separate paths are already implied, because if Eric leaves, there's still has to be content with Eric for the people who want NTR and don't want to get rid of Eric. It's easier to have the stories run similar, rather than just switch up the schedule for one path, because that will result in two games in one.

 

[maxbishup]

Oh, I'm not saying I don't want Eric to go, just that we get something better than the whole lazy porn plot. I mean, if we scrap that whole "Ann gets fired" thing which is the "reason" for the porn, I don't see a reason why Eric/non-Eric storylines couldn't run similar. Any event that happens in an Eric storyline could then still happen in a non-Eric storyline. Just an idea that just popped in my head: a work event where there's an important client and Eric pimps Ann out can easily come a work event where Max scores with a femal associate of said client to get the same deal (something for way further down the line, of course). Just saying, the whole porn story line limits a two story path, while scrapping it opens things further. Remember why DS scrapped the Olivia storyline, because he believed Max's attention would focus on Olivia alone (shows he doesn't know what kind of perverts we are), while it's easy to incorporate Lisa further in that storyline.

Also, two separate paths are already implied, because if Eric leaves, there's still has to be content with Eric for the people who want NTR and don't want to get rid of Eric. It's easier to have the stories run similar, rather than just switch up the schedule for one path, because that will result in two games in one.

I don't think Aleksey has said that there will be NTR throughout the game.(I maybe wrong) I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one. Aleksey did say we could make friends with Eric, not how long it will last. After Eric, I hope most if not all NTR will be outside the home. (If Ann marries Eric it's GAME OVER I think)

 

[armion82]

I don't think Aleksey has said that there will be NTR throughout the game.(I maybe wrong) I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one. Aleksey did say we could make friends with Eric, not how long it will last. After Eric, I hope most if not all NTR will be outside the home. (If Ann marries Eric it's GAME OVER I think)

I don't think there will be realy NTR in the game.After all Max don't have a GF at all,so we can forget about that.
Also we probably have to kick Eric out sooner or later,or there will be Game Over.

 

[SuddenReal]

I can't see how we can have Eric in home and kicked out without 2 games in one.

Well, remember in the original, after you kicked out Eric, there was a period when Ann went to work before getting fired? Well, that part. Face it, Eric gone or not, during the day, it doesn't matter. He's a non-factor for most of the week anyway. He's only over, what, two, three days? And even then, it's from 8 PM till 6 AM. You can still put the same events in both story lines (with either Max or Eric taking advantage from them) but in the end, there's no "oh, here's an entire story arc with Ann that doesn't involve Eric, in the middle of the day".

 

[maxbishup]

Well, remember in the original, after you kicked out Eric, there was a period when Ann went to work before getting fired? Well, that part. Face it, Eric gone or not, during the day, it doesn't matter. He's a non-factor for most of the week anyway. He's only over, what, two, three days? And even then, it's from 8 PM till 6 AM. You can still put the same events in both story lines (with either Max or Eric taking advantage from them) but in the end, there's no "oh, here's an entire story arc with Ann that doesn't involve Eric, in the middle of the day".

Yes I remember the original, BIG BROTHER THE INCEST STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Don't remember it as BIG BROTHER THE WE LOVE ERIC NTR STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Just kidding I'm ok with players keeping Eric (NTR) if they like, and I'm fine without porn movies. I would be ok if no incest. (Just don't remove spanking) But Ann is thinking of marrying Eric. I'm defiantly not the last word on this game, just one Patreon among many. My biggest hope, the fans of original BB get some satisfaction.

 

[SuddenReal]

Yes I remember the original, BIG BROTHER THE INCEST STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Don't remember it as BIG BROTHER THE WE LOVE ERIC NTR STORY OF YOUR LIFE. Just kidding I'm ok with players keeping Eric (NTR) if they like, and I'm fine without porn movies. I would be ok if no incest. (Just don't remove spanking) But Ann is thinking of marrying Eric. I'm defiantly not the last word on this game, just one Patreon among many. My biggest hope, the fans of original BB get some satisfaction.

I think we're not on the same page here. I'm not saying "push the NTR up with Eric". I'm just saying there's no reason why the story lines have to be completely divergent wether Eric is there or not. Also, "no one's talking about marriage yet, Max".

 

[Gary_Indiana]

I think we're not on the same page here. I'm not saying "push the NTR up with Eric". I'm just saying there's no reason why the story lines have to be completely divergent wether Eric is there or not. Also, "no one's talking about marriage yet, Max".

It is interesting how different people view the original game. For me it was always a coming of age/corruption story with Max deciding what kind of man he was going to be and he would do that by confronting the corrupting influences on his family.

So a wish list for me would be a story with three major paths and let's say four corrupting influences (Eric, Kate, Kira and the unknown porn producer for example)

First path would be the Alpha/Harem path where you have to go to war with each corrupting influence in turn and set clear boundaries. This would be the grindiest path with the game logic being that you have no help in corrupting your family and have to do all the corrupting on your own. It would also net you the least amount of girls (Mom, Lisa, Alice and Kira) again with the game logic being that these girls, once the taboo is broken, turn awfully shrewish and they want to "keep it in the family" as it were

Second path would be the average joe path with average grind which would let the corrupting influences do a bit of corrupting but with you the MC setting some red lines.

Third path would be the Submissive path which would be the least grind and the max amount sexual experiences with max amount of girls but with the twist that this is happening to the MC and you have no control over it.

Endings could be for example alpha path you set up your own porn company with your family as actresses and MC as the main actor/producer

For average joe maybe the MC ends up going to college with Olivia as your GF but comes home for holidays to give mom and sisters a twirl

And for third path maybe you end up working in Kate's Mom's basement as her boy toy.

Yeah I've thought way too much about this. Maybe I should do my own BB clone.