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dwalsh

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I understand the idea behind what you're saying, and on the angle of what is best for the overall story, it might be best to end the Eric path. I won't argue that having multiple branching paths that go in wildly different is not a very good idea for a small or one-man team.

I'm not even arguing against Eric being cut. Seriously. I'm not. What I am arguing is how it has been cut and ended.

The Dev cut the route with no payout for any of the women on the Eric path. That is not an ending. That is a bait and switch. IF the Dev takes a patch or two to focus on and actually resolve the NTR route, have some Eric-Path Lisa and Alice NTR, and then something happens to cut him, so be it. Then we got our route and it ended with Eric winning the battle, but losing the war.

He had his way with the women, we get NTR, but he flew too high too fast and fell to earth for it. You can even have it be something like where he has sex with Alice and Lisa, and that action is enough for Max to push the Mother into curbing his ass. Bam, most people would be happy.

The issue though is that anti-Eric/NTR people would not be okay with that. They want all new content to be their content only. So if you're fine with us NTR people getting a real ending and payout, then sure, kudos. Our game ends, yours keep going. No harm, no foul.

I am not expecting that though. I am expecting no new NTR with the women, and to have Eric get bounced before any payout. Then the story just rolls on like he never existed. That's just bad storytelling, on all fronts, and it is a massive betrayal of trust to people who played the game or supported it and took the NTR path.
I think I can meet you on that, not with Eric (me personally) though I must say from jump it was stated somewhere that Eric would never get to Alice and Lisa, that ending is equal to Game Over. If he (Aleksey) chooses to do that later its not on my anyway. But in another branches of course the girls can get boyfriends, girlfriends or whatever and that can have an alternative ending diverging from the main story. Once the story continues proportionally I'm good
 

dwalsh

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Why isn't there an option in the smoking event after the first time to get Alice to not wear her panties, I think that option should be added back to the smoking blackmail options.
It's there still. Not sure way the selections change though
 

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Why isn't there an option in the smoking event after the first time to get Alice to not wear her panties, I think that option should be added back to the smoking blackmail options.
The MC of this game is not as perverse as he should be, he will hardly have any future blackmail making Alice, Lisa, give Max a blowjob anywhere in the house. The blackmail that Max grants while talking to Alice on the side of the pool is useless to me, because asking her to walk around without panties during the day will not affect anything in the game, that is, you won't be able to enjoy Alice washing the dishes, for example in her nightgown and watching her ass without panties. Asking her not to wear the top while smoking is useless too, as is asking her to sleep without her clothes on.

You have every right to think to think so, my opinion if you are right or wrong is something different entirely.

I'm not arguing with you how you should see Eric, that's all your thing, like my views are mine.
You may see Eric's story to be exciting, I see it as being annoying. Also if you see him as a temporary char ... so do I.

And then there is that group of people who don't. Who want more and more of him. I have already seen what many Eric fans expect from him and that ... well, that's nothing I can support. Also I don't want to have to deal with that kind of people if I wand to stay active here.

The rivalry between Olivia and Lisa might still happen, who knows? Both trying to win him over might be a nice touch. I honestly doubt it will be like that, but it might. However, I personally would want to see it with clothes on - so to say, and not just a "how could you screw her! I thought you are with me." ... and 2 scenes later a threesome. Nah. If such content comes, I would prefer it to take place outside the bedtroom on a more personal level.
The reason I would like to see more of the character is because the story could be better developed if there were more conversational dialogue between the two characters. I thought of something like, making Max paranoid and then Max seeing that his paranoia was real, that Eric was constantly trying to trick Max and make a fool of him. It would be something like that, throughout the story you would discover more about the character and get involved with him, discovering his secrets and etc;
So Max could be a "fake friend" of Eric and Eric introduce Max to an underworld, take him to nightclubs and introduce some prostitutes, show him some clandestine business and that at the end of this journey, Max would rip out everything Eric owned, Max would also find out that Eric was on the run and that loan sharks were looking for him. That would be the plot of this Eric event, of course, it would be a story and you need to build a script under it.

As for Lisa's rivalry with Olivia, I think this "you have sex with him" thing is childish. Lisa needs to be jealous but not show it to Olivia. As in a storyline, Lisa likes Olivia's boyfriend, Olivia when she meets Max she makes her boyfriend get closer to Lisa, so the moment Lisa sees Max having sex with Olivia in Alice or Ann's room, she starts to have more affection for Max. So she kind of takes Olivia out of the picture and tries to be with Max alone, after she gets her wish, she tries to get back with Olivia's friendship, because she repents, she sees that she was immature and invites Olivia back to the Villa. Lisa hates that others see her as childish (that would be her personality) and then Olivia suggests they have a threesome, in the story Lisa tries to refuse, and Olivia will say in her ear "You're not a kid, are you?" and Max says "C'mon Lisa, let's try"..

During these events, I would suggest that Olivia be dominant to Lisa, Lisa becomes more submissive to Max, accepting whatever he asks. Olivia however, suggests they both have a costume party, Max will buy a Roman outfit, Olivia will buy a domina outfit and she will bring Lisa a slave outfit. Lisa will ask, what is this? she will try to refuse to wear it, and Max will say it's just a costume. Well, I think the "lesbian" scenes should take place with Olivia and Lisa rather than creating a girlfriend for Alice. Lisa and Olivia are two young girls, their imaginations are beyond reach.

As for Alice's content, Alice would have a difficult personality, she is that woman who is the hard-to-conquer type and wants to be dominated. Nothing will be easy, the player could explore this nightlife or the underworld, Kira could work at some nightclub as a dancer or stripper and Alice too, there you can create other female characters to be interactive, maybe Vicky? (Vicky wouldn't be a dancer or stripper), Max then has an event where he wants to get Kira and Alice out of this place, maybe start a porn movie event. The porn movies would start with Max and Kira, but they would both be wearing a mask, Kira will say that the movie was good, that the money earn was decent but not enough and that it was improving it. Kira talks on her cellphone with her friends, trying to get them to do it, Alice overhears the conversation. One of Kira's friends shows up to record with Max and Alice was hiding in the house and is watching. After the recording, after a week, Kira will show up and give Max $1000 as payment and tell Max that it's not much, but it's just the beginning. Alice is interested in this business, she goes to Kira to ask if there is a way for her to participate, however she says she doesn't want to do it with Max, that she wants to do it with another guy. Max hears this and then asks Kira to do it with Alice, Kira starts laughing and asks if he isn't flying too high, Max responds with laughter, why not? Kira (mouth open surprised), says, "Max, I didn't know you had lust for your sister" Max will respond with a dull tone "well... It's not like that, it's more for pleasure" Kira likes the answer but she tells Max that she will refuse, Max then suggests the two of them do the recording but Max will be wearing a mask.
On the day of recording, Alice recognizes it's Max and try to refuse. Kira will say "it's not your brother, go soon". Alice says no, that she wants to do it with someone else. Kira will answer, there is no other one, only this one, do you want to do it or not? because there are other girls wanting the money. Alice accepts and in her thoughts she says "I can't believe what I'm doing with my brother, I'll kill him if he says anything about it". The next day, Max will hear from Alice to Kira that Ann can't know about this.

It was just an idea. I don't know if it was interesting but, it's this little type of erotic content that I would include.
 
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TomUK

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The MC of this game is not as perverse as he should be, he will hardly have any future blackmail making Alice, Lisa, give Max a blowjob anywhere in the house. The blackmail that Max grants while talking to Alice on the side of the pool is useless to me, because asking her to walk around without panties during the day will not affect anything in the game, that is, you won't be able to enjoy Alice washing the dishes, for example in her nightgown and watching her ass without panties. Asking her not to wear the top while smoking is useless too, as is asking her to sleep without her clothes on.
But I found out that there is something, Alice might not wear her panties on her Friday night out, so the bathroom scene would be different to what it currently is and also maybe she wouldn't wear them when she was washing the dishes. Getting her not to wear a bra doesn't really do much either really except allows you to look at her tits when she's sleeping.
But I'll have to start another run through now just to check it out.
 

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Recovery period is long too. It's more common in Europe it seems. I actually had to research it myself.
It usually requires IV ATB, and anti seizure medication. I have take care of a few patients with this condition in my career.
 

Shirafune

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I understand the idea behind what you're saying, and on the angle of what is best for the overall story, it might be best to end the Eric path. I won't argue that having multiple branching paths that go in wildly different is not a very good idea for a small or one-man team.

I'm not even arguing against Eric being cut. Seriously. I'm not. What I am arguing is how it has been cut and ended.

The Dev cut the route with no payout for any of the women on the Eric path. That is not an ending. That is a bait and switch. IF the Dev takes a patch or two to focus on and actually resolve the NTR route, have some Eric-Path Lisa and Alice NTR, and then something happens to cut him, so be it. Then we got our route and it ended with Eric winning the battle, but losing the war.

He had his way with the women, we get NTR, but he flew too high too fast and fell to earth for it. You can even have it be something like where he has sex with Alice and Lisa, and that action is enough for Max to push the Mother into curbing his ass. Bam, most people would be happy.

The issue though is that anti-Eric/NTR people would not be okay with that. They want all new content to be their content only. So if you're fine with us NTR people getting a real ending and payout, then sure, kudos. Our game ends, yours keep going. No harm, no foul.

I am not expecting that though. I am expecting no new NTR with the women, and to have Eric get bounced before any payout. Then the story just rolls on like he never existed. That's just bad storytelling, on all fronts, and it is a massive betrayal of trust to people who played the game or supported it and took the NTR path.
That'd be acceptable but yeah, ain't gonna happen
 

dwalsh

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It usually requires IV ATB, and anti seizure medication. I have take care of a few patients with this condition in my career.
Ah memories. Worked 7 years in a hospital myself earlier in life as Admin (full time) and Support staff (part time). Nothing puts life into perspective like hospital work.
 

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I think I can meet you on that, not with Eric (me personally) though I must say from jump it was stated somewhere that Eric would never get to Alice and Lisa, that ending is equal to Game Over. If he (Aleksey) chooses to do that later its not on my anyway. But in another branches of course the girls can get boyfriends, girlfriends or whatever and that can have an alternative ending diverging from the main story. Once the story continues proportionally I'm good
Seems like it is game over for NTR. So good time to wrap up the Eric-Lisa-Alice NTR and game over it for the NTR path if that's the call. I'm fine with that. I just want the payout that was built. If he wants to do the NTR deed and say reload earlier save once done or whatever then sure. It's better than nothing. Obviously, I would prefer it continues but seems like that's not going to happen.

And for folks like you who don't want to even see Eric, well, he's already gone in your game. The next few patches are just not your content. Everything afterward would be.

I, and I know others, would be infinitely more open to future antagonists and plots if we were given a resolution for the plot that is already going now.

In any case, seems like everything is on hold for a while now. Regardless of my hard feelings about the story, wishing Dev well and as swift a recovery as possible.

Man, BB games must be cursed. All the past failures, PornGod's game stopping due to Russia sanctions, AA due to illness. Rough.
 
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Nemo56

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That domination thing is actually the thing with Lisa. Alice was always th eone who tried to take control.
As for Alice's content, ...Alice would have a difficult personality, she is that woman who is the hard-to-conquer type and wants to be dominated.
I don't want to turn Alice into a second Ann, so I hope your wishes about her and domination remain unheared.
To make it clear: I am not into domination and submission at all. I hope we see as little as possible, when it comes to that. There's plenty of games which are based on that - and I don't play them.

We seem to have some very different views when it comes to character content. I see you describe their sexual behaviour most of the time. Really, that's the last thing I am really interested in. There will be sex, ok. That's enough information for me (well, if it's about BDSM, then I know where the fast forward button is and if it's about rape, then I am out, but that's basically it). I am interested in the story around that. I don't see the story as a way to lead to sex scenes, instead I wan lewd scenes that fit into the story. If we are talking about competition between Lisa and Olivia, I am not talking about who gives more BJs (which I find very annoying in most of these games anyway. HJ here, BJ there, all the time. I am interested in "her", not in seeing how "he" gets off). I'm talking about some out of house events which normal people do or other activities in the house. They may or may not include sexual interaction, depending on the situation. Ok, Max is quite simple minded when it comes to what he likes and what not, but there must be SOME way to make him happy without having to clean afterwards.
 
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Nemo56

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Ah memories. Worked 7 years in a hospital myself earlier in life as Admin (full time) and Support staff (part time). Nothing puts life into perspective like hospital work.
I don't know ... doing tech support for full grown idiots can also be a eye opener :)
That's not my job, I am a programmer, but sometimes cusomers get passed to me (not so often as in the past) and of course it's always the software, that is responsible for their miserable life.
But I could not compare. I never worked for a hospital. Should ask my sis. But then again she has no way to compare it to other work ... *sigh*.
 
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Nemo56

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so.. everything completed except "control"....wait for next update?
Yes - if you didn't miss any random scenes that are not connected to opportunities.
Btw, you won't be able to complete "control" - ever. The path you chose does not contain that. It's a little rpg like. Some quests can fail, depending on your decision.
 
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dwalsh

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I don't know ... doing tech support for full grown idiots can also be a eye opener :)
That's not my job, I am a programmer, but sometimes cusomers get passed to me (not so often as in the past) and of course it's always the software, that is responsible for their miserable life.
But I could not compare. I never worked for a hospital. Should ask my sis. But then again she has no way to compare it to other work ... *sigh*.
There is no way to get closer to a person than prepping them for open heart short of playing for the other team. I'm genuinely scarred for life, but after awhile you get used to it. I've held the hands of DNR patients while they crashed. Transported miscarriages to the freezer, I've assisted with crush, fall, burn and explosion victims, wrapped and bagged expired friends. Hospital life is not for the faint of heart, I took too long to learn don't get too close to dialysis patients so I was one of the regulars in the basement Chapel along with the other slow learners. Now I'm trade, different type of stress but armed better than most. My motto from the hospital days "work hard and be nice to people".
 
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