Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.08.02] [Aleksey90]

[jeff100]

RE Eric / game overall a few points for the dev / posters on this thread:

1. Eric. Keep him, but get rid of him. I.E Have an option to get rid of him, not by doing tasks and having to see him get on with Alice / Lisa, not by seeing him with mom, just give Max the option to put a landmine down when he first enters the house. That way, people who don't want to see that content can skip it straight away and hopefully reduce the amount of people complaining about him. Those who like the challenge or like the type of content can keep him around. Pleases both sides.
2. Keep developing the content for Eric. I'm impartial to Eric content (keep him or leave it, is whatever), but those that like it are just as insufferable as those that don't like it (basically: humans are annoying and none of you / me are an exception). Balancing things out (by developing both routes), will output the best response from people imo (won't please everyone, but at least it's fair to both audiences). PS (not for the developer but for everyone else): If you just want your route developed, you can skip on telling me, I know and everyone else knows you guys exist.
3. For posters (exceptions apply): Stop trying to argue that he's a challenge or whatever, there are plenty of ways to introduce challenges without forcing people who don't like certain type of content to watch it. A way of perhaps (hopefully) get the point across is this: Imagine if the only way to keep Eric was to watch 10 scenes per week of scat (Max and Lisa eating it, Alice and mom bathing in it, Eric taking a shit on Kira's face, etc.). You wouldn't like it, neither do people who dislike the Eric content. PS: For some (not all) that are arguing that he's a challenge but are instead so obviously into ntr and are just trying to get a better look out to everyone by seeming impartial, you're not fooling anyone.
4. Reduce the grind. Seriously, please... The original game was extremely annoying for this, you can improve on it... please do so.
5. Perhaps get a team of playtesters if you haven't already, send them private builds before posting them for your patrons and see if that helps reduce the amount of bugs.
6. Keep up the good work.

 

[Ursus4321]

The importance of Eric is mentioned a lot so that there is fight and reward. And all of that would be fine if both mc and Eric started from the same place. The problem is that Eric already has the mother, so whatever you do that defeat you already have it. That later you can change your luck, it is possible, but you eat that ntr yes or yes.

 

[perkel666]

I have news for you. Your father already fucks your mother. And ultimate pill. You were product of being cucked by your own father. We are talking here about incest. Eric is normal guy here and you as son shouldn't even try to have a thing with your sisters and mother.

It is always hilarious to me reading moans of kids who can't handle that they are not actually MC and "their" girls are getting fucked by someone else. Like what is up with that ? You can play rape games where goblins fuck your mc and don't have issue with that but can't handle a little competition.

Eric is great guy. He gives you money and gives you way to do also something.

Eric IS integral part of that story. Without him it would be another bang XXX girls game.

 

[Deleted member 522652]

dear all, it seems I am missing quite a bit:

• I cannot spank Alice outdoors, how is this opportunity even opened?
• I cannot give a lewd foot massage without candies, but I can with the candies
• I cannot get Lisa to stay the night in my bed after movies
• I cannot close the spider opportunity with Alice, despite spiders in the bath, during massages, at night.

can someone please help with any of these?

 

[Nemo56]

how to enter w/o knocking in lisa path?

I think you need to proceed on her schoolmate storyline.

 

[Nemo56]

dear all, it seems I am missing quite a bit:

• I cannot spank Alice outdoors, how is this opportunity even opened?
• I cannot give a lewd foot massage without candies, but I can with the candies
• I cannot get Lisa to stay the night in my bed after movies
• I cannot close the spider opportunity with Alice, despite spiders in the bath, during massages, at night.

can someone please help with any of these?

Set Alice up, then save her from a spanking and read the hint. There are more options now to the spider pranks, one for the shower, one for tanning. At some point you'll get the option to tell her to hide behind you. After that the couch massage will be extended.
My best guess for Lisa is to proceed on her schoolmate storyline.

edit: The arachnophobia opportunity will complete once you played through the 3 new spider prank options.

 

[Nemo56]

Does anyone know a console command how to show the save game screen for manual savegames?
After trying to load a autosave, the game keeps throwing an exception when right clicking, most likely because it tries to show the autosave and quicksave slots.
I already tried to delete all auto- and quicksaves (in both directories), but ths screen still won't show.

 

[rustbell]

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[BradWilly18]

Help: I've caught Eric (like 20 times now) rubbing it out to Alice while she's sleeping. But the option to take a picture wont come.

 

[Nemo56]

Help: I've caught Eric (like 20 times now) rubbing it out to Alice while she's sleeping. But the option to take a picture wont come.

Did you buy the camera yet?

 

[Ag-Ab]

I think you need to proceed on her schoolmate storyline.

the path with most bugs now

 

[GamingHentai]

save file for the update plz

 

[manjarateman]

Set Alice up, then save her from a spanking and read the hint. There are more options now to the spider pranks, one for the shower, one for tanning. At some point you'll get the option to tell her to hide behind you. After that the couch massage will be extended.
My best guess for Lisa is to proceed on her schoolmate storyline.

edit: The arachnophobia opportunity will complete once you played through the 3 new spider prank options.

wait, what are the 3 new spider pranks? and there's a separate prank for bath and shower?

 

[Nemo56]

I have news for you. Your father already fucks your mother.

So why don't people watch THEM instead of asking for ntr in games?

Eric IS integral part of that story. Without him it would be another bang XXX girls game.

I always found him nothing else then annoying. After the Eric storyline I didn't miss him, he wasn't so integral after all.
I never saw Max as "me", I just want to enjoy a fun naughty storyline, that's all. And BIBO always had this wicked sense of humor.
Eric ... he just ruined it most of the time, the game was too serious about him (except when we finally got rid of him).

 

[Nemo56]

wait, what are the 3 new spider pranks? and there's a separate prank for bath and shower?

2 by the pool (one unlocks the other), 1 in the shower.

 

[Shovonahmed]

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
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  File "game/core/01classes.rpy", line 1437, in upcoming
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  File "game/core/core.rpy", line 21, in <module>
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NameError: global name 'eventslist' is not defined

 

[Lindsay]

Hey you all... can someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong - I can get to the point with new content nether with Alice or Lisa... with Alice this dipshit MC tells that he needs to do massage at TV without candy... for the fucking 3 game weeks in a row every night I did that fn massage and take her out of candy like a fucking addict, first with 2 candy, next week with only one, and the last without any - and he still tells that he can try it without candy (and btw every day I planted the spider at the pool) - I still can't get new scenes with her at the pool... as for Lisa - she just doesn't want to watch the movie with mc anymore - after helping her with homework she goes straight to bed.. anyone can help here?

for lisa you have to catch her in the sower and make a sound then it auto triggers, still working on the spider events.

 

[kitsunedawn]

I have news for you. Your father already fucks your mother. And ultimate pill. You were product of being cucked by your own father. We are talking here about incest. Eric is normal guy here and you as son shouldn't even try to have a thing with your sisters and mother.

It is always hilarious to me reading moans of kids who can't handle that they are not actually MC and "their" girls are getting fucked by someone else. Like what is up with that ? You can play rape games where goblins fuck your mc and don't have issue with that but can't handle a little competition.

Eric is great guy. He gives you money and gives you way to do also something.

Eric IS integral part of that story. Without him it would be another bang XXX girls game.

The big problem with Eric, isn't that he's there. It's that, in all honesty, any interaction with him (whether mom, or mc) is just all over the place writing wise. There's points that just don't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

For example, within about a week of meeting this guy, the mom is getting ready to marry the guy. While sure, that can happen, the way it's written is like the mother is dumb as a sack of bricks. Like whatever rational thought she had went right out the window the moment she looked at the guy. Which is weird, because in every other interaction she comes across as being highly intelligent and thoughtful. Yet with Eric, it's almost like he's shoe-horned into the story.

Another problem with him, is he and the MC don't start on the same level. In fact, due to the overall grindy nature of the game, it is very difficult to actually make progress with the mother. Almost anything the player does is automatically countered by Eric... by him just being "Eric". He's some 'mister perfect' while the MC is "can't do anything right".

That brings me to another point. The way the other characters treat the MC (and yes, this is a writing issue again) when he dares be the voice of reason, is horrendous. You would reasonably expect, and see in well written stories, someone who is presented with this guy suddenly coming into the picture and the mother going from smart to "dumb as a sack of bricks" because of this guy, go "wait a minute... aren't you moving a bit fast there"? Yet it's only the MC that picks up on something being wrong here, and everyone else is like "hurr durr, MC is idiot, he's jealous, Mom needs to marry this guy she just met and knows nothing about."

Sorry, the guy just really doesn't fit with the story as it is. There's no voice of reason (since the MC just gets shot down), nothing the MC can really do for quite some time to deal with the guy, and anything the MC does manage to do, has no real effect. You're just as likely to get a result by not even doing a damn thing around the guy, as if you actually try.

The character's writing just needs a good bit of work. Whether that's toning back the reactions the characters have to the mom moving so fast, making Eric take longer to get his hooks in the mother, or making the MC's protests carry at least some measure of weight; in the end unless something changes, you're going to find that a lot of people are just going to get pissed and say 'fuck it' and delete the game. It's no fun to play a game, regardless of what it's about, if you feel like your character can't make any difference in the story regardless of what they try.

 

[Pica-bu]

for lisa you have to catch her in the sower and make a sound then it auto triggers, still working on the spider events.

Yea thanks dude, I remembered how to make Lisa watch a movie with Max. But I still can't trigger the event when MC tells Alice to "hide behind him" at the pool with spider... can't seem to trigger it

 

[Shirafune]

I always found him nothing else then annoying. After the Eric storyline I didn't miss him, he wasn't so integral after all.
I never saw Max as "me", I just want to enjoy a fun naughty storyline, that's all. And BIBO always had this wicked sense of humor.
Eric ... he just ruined it most of the time, the game was too serious about him (except when we finally got rid of him).

Well if you find Eric annoying just play the original, i don't see how people can't comprehend that XD You can get rid of him pretty quickly there