Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

[khumak]

new version has its pluses I mentioned previously, but it would have been fitting to introduce it for Chapter II or something, once the new chapter is rolling, you can go back and polish a little the old one if necessary, I sound like a broken record - but I just don't see the point of this at all...

Definitely agree on that. That was what I originally thought he was doing when he announced the rebuild but it looks like it's going to be closer to a complete start over which seems like a waste to me. If it was me I would have left the existing content as is (or at least the renders) and use the new system only for the new content. Maybe go back and tweak a few of the older scenes if I really wasn't happy with them but not just throw it all out and start over.

 

[dwalsh]

Nothing official, but it's most likely just a part of it. The data structure changed and how the layers are managed, also the gameplay changed, some 'between' events (like the one with Ann we see in the Demo) added, maybe some stuff removed. I can't immagins how he would do all that until April. Adding everything at once would be a) a lot of work and b) cause for countless bugreports. But I do expect him to add more into updates than in his first attempt or at least release updates more frequently.


Adding dream sequences could be a nice tool to add some lewd content without ruining the story. Sure, this time Max only got to touch something, but he usually dreams about something more, right? In these dreams pretty much anything can happen and would still not break the characters and their development.

I agree, almost anything that will bolster the storyline at this point I'll agree to. I understand the effort to increase the variations of scenes to make them more realistic but also that's like standing in one spot too long trying to analyse everything in that spot for me. It's cool but loses its appeal fast.

 

[dwalsh]

Not really.
If you are talking about space version-there is even more grind in that one.
And practically you have nothing to do for the whole day.

On the plus side of the rebuild Aleksey has really cleaned up the grind on this attempt. Going forward once he keeps this up, he'll be able to get a lot more content in for players that prefer something with a story as well as get more sexual content in for others that focus on that aspect. Honestly, it's lost a lot of the game play aspect (which adds to the grind) for the gamers, and we'll have to wait to see how he rolls that out in future updates, I guess.

 

[troll822]

My main concern with the rebuild is that it took us 3 years to get to where we were before the reboot and I am concerned it will be another year till we reach that part again.

 

[WtfwinPC]

the feelings i had after playing v9 was this game needs more filler content and then out of the blue he's actually doing it so I completely happy with him now filling in the gaps.

Ever get bored of walking into your room when lisa is changing and she gets mad and tells you to leave, even knowing she has been showing her boobs to you for the homework or having her watch porn with you? I find it really annoying, this will hopefully fix all of that.

 

[Nemo56]

at some point you have to ask - does that randomness and 5 outfits * 3 hairstyles * 4 poses for each matter in context of telling the story - which IS the main thing, the answer is very obvious

but if you want to redo the thing 50 times over and never ever finish it, it serves as a good excuse to delay

when someone first said here he is changing to G8 or something (I don't remember, was it this or Glamour), I immediately said it is a huge time investment, and look - a year to get to where he was with the 0.92, it is a complete joke at this point, and what is worse - discourages support for other projects because some people do learn

new version has its pluses I mentioned previously, but it would have been fitting to introduce it for Chapter II or something, once the new chapter is rolling, you can go back and polish a little the old one if necessary, I sound like a broken record - but I just don't see the point of this at all...

I mean, one might even release Chapter 1 (with a meaningful ending) on Steam for a price, and then sell Chapter 2 as a "new and improved" whatever, make a trilogy even, just don't screw around with the same thing endlessly

I think he asked himself that a long time ago and made a decision.
And it looks it was not in favor of delivering the same as everybody else but do something he likes. We are 48 steps away from the 50 times you mentioned anyway, so I think he still has some room. If he fails, he fails. But I am glad that he tries. We need more people who have their own agenda.

About the chapters: That's already a viable option. For a Steam release however the family setting has to go or at least be managed with variables. I really try to avoid Steam, so itch.io would be better for me and because they are not so restrictive. But if there's a Steam version, I hope he also goes to GOG or at least itch.


There's really no point in pondering here about how it should be done. It's his decision and it was already made. But if you do want to tell him what to do, you should do so on Discord. And there is always the option to start your own project and do it better yourself. The more the merrier.

 

[amangoyal11]

Android saves anyone

 

[Nemo56]

Android saves anyone

BlackPanther's and Lukumoide's posts for the legacy version, no savegames for the rebuild yet (pointless)

 

[derive]

Wtf, pls don't tell me I have to play this game all over again...
Also no gallery?

 

[dwalsh]

Wtf, pls don't tell me I have to play this game all over again...
Also no gallery?

There are very few things in this life that we have to do. But yes if you want to continue following the development a new game is needed. It's also way too early for a gallery. Basically just a demo.

 

[ZXAlucard]

Hi everyone, I have a problem, on the second day of the game when I have breakfast with the family, the game sends me to the main screen and I don't know what to do

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[Shiva0067]

Hi everyone, I have a problem, on the second day of the game when I have breakfast with the family, the game sends me to the main screen and I don't know what to do

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You have reached the CURRENT end of the REBUILD version. If you want more, you will either have to wait for the next update OR you can download the old version that is still available in the first post (in the spoiler under the rebuild download options).

Hope that helps

 

[boommom]

Few years later
Maybe we can see

Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild Evolution [v0.01.00]


Or

Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild: Reforged[v0.01.00]

 

[DumbFapper1914]

it's called taboo for a reason There are also a lot of other much creepier fetishes out there :\

tell me about it some people just don't know how fairly mild it is you want to see something you don't understand well got one for ya i remember when i found out about a thing called guro and boy that stuff :/...........not fun...can not recommend 0/10 and belongs in the bin.

 

[WtfwinPC]

A lot of it depends on what hardware he has. If he's got a powerful system he could dramatically simplify his code by just rendering it all as 1 image instead of having separate background plus sprites plus layers, etc. If he's got a weaker card he might exceed his VRAM by rending everything unless he reduced texture quality or removed objects or lights which would make the render look worse. Any time you fall back to CPU rendering you're looking at orders of magnitude longer render time. Like going from a few minutes to several hours per image. The lighting makes a huge difference and the more lights you have the more memory and render time you're going to need.

Using my own low end system as an example if I take a complex scene with low light and reflections I can let it run for 8 hours or more and it will still have very noticeable fireflies and other defects that I would have to either fix manually with a paint program or by using a denoiser. My GPU only has 4GB of Vram so for the above render it wouldn't even be used, it would all be CPU. If I got rid of the relfections and rendered the background separately from the characters I could do the same scene as 2 separate renders in maybe 20 minutes (assuming both scenes fit inside a 4GB VRAM buffer) but it would look noticeably worse because of the missing reflections and missing or inaccurate shadows.

I watched an advanced tutorial for daz and normally what you should be doing is rendering the scene first to get it out of the way, you can then add in models overlay them over the scene and only focus on rendering the models and shadows creating a single image with 1/10 the amount of time in rendering giving you amazing images. I assume he is doing that very thing.

This should be obvious but doing this is a lot more complicated then how i described usually requiring maps made with photo shop.

 

[WtfwinPC]

at some point you have to ask - does that randomness and 5 outfits * 3 hairstyles * 4 poses for each matter in context of telling the story - which IS the main thing, the answer is very obvious

but if you want to redo the thing 50 times over and never ever finish it, it serves as a good excuse to delay

when someone first said here he is changing to G8 or something (I don't remember, was it this or Glamour), I immediately said it is a huge time investment, and look - a year to get to where he was with the 0.92, it is a complete joke at this point, and what is worse - discourages support for other projects because some people do learn

new version has its pluses I mentioned previously, but it would have been fitting to introduce it for Chapter II or something, once the new chapter is rolling, you can go back and polish a little the old one if necessary, I sound like a broken record - but I just don't see the point of this at all...

I mean, one might even release Chapter 1 (with a meaningful ending) on Steam for a price, and then sell Chapter 2 as a "new and improved" whatever, make a trilogy even, just don't screw around with the same thing endlessly

honestly its not a big deal or a waste of time, When you have an entire scene setup, models already posed its a matter of spending 5 minutes or less rendering the new outfit, the drag and dropping another outfit over the model and then rendering again for 5 minutes, you could do all of that drag and dropping ahead of time save the scenes and then bulk render everything in no time.

if he's doing dramatic pose changes then that can be really time consuming but i don't think he is?

I'm sure their will be new poses for a lot of the images he makes also which is why the update will take so long to come out.

I just did a replay of the game and noticed Ann has almost zero content threw 90% of the game, like their are no interactions with you and ann at all except for the catching you spying, punishments and getting money thats it, she needs a serious rework in the game to make her feel better with interactions. Example more dialog stuff needs to happen

 

[wd1111]

you're saying not a big deal, yet the dev says he'll get to the point where 0.92 ended by the end of this year

 

[khumak]

I watched an advanced tutorial for daz and normally what you should be doing is rendering the scene first to get it out of the way, you can then add in models overlay them over the scene and only focus on rendering the models and shadows creating a single image with 1/10 the amount of time in rendering giving you amazing images. I assume he is doing that very thing.

This should be obvious but doing this is a lot more complicated then how i described usually requiring maps made with photo shop.

A lot of people with lower end systems do it that way but it doesn't look nearly as good as if you render the entire scene as 1 image. You can't get quality lighting and shadows or reflections unless you render the scene as a single image. The worst quality is to render everything except the characters as a background image and then render the characters only as separate sprites. A lot of games do this because it also happens to give you the fastest render times since you only have to render the background once and every character render only takes seconds, but it's blatantly obvious and gives you more of a paper dolls glued to a photo effect.

A middle ground is to render the characters with only a small number of environmental objects they're nearest to like a couch or a bed that allow you to at least get some shadow and lighting effects even if it's not really what they would be in the full scene. Aleksy is doing something closer to that middle ground option so it does actually look fairly good.

 

[xenoman]

how does the remaked remake look even more shit? Thats a special talent for sure

 

[WtfwinPC]

You can't get quality lighting and shadows or reflections unless you render the scene as a single image.

This isn't true that's why you spend all that time creating a 3d map for daz in photoshop, Daz will take that map and the original scene you created and fill in all those reflections and shadows and lighting that happens from the models that you place into the scene without having to re render the entire background and create a single rendered scene for you in 1/10th the time. { sure if you have a mirror in a bedroom that could be a problem but in the end that's just poor placement in the room and you should consider optimization when ever creating a scene, but if the model you place into the scene is a mirror then it will reflect everything perfectly. }

If i could find the tutorial i would hook you up but its one of those paid for ones i got a long time ago on this website.