Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

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Piter Georg

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Oh, This game is about voyeurs teens on a nudist beach with elements of porn. From the creation of the game until now there is nothing interesting except a broken mouse and the waiting nervous system. The author could have come up with something really interesting if he had read at least one book. Apparently, the author worked on the game alone, and that's why the results are like that. I am convinced that there are talented users here who would be happy to help Aleksey90/Алексей90 with ideas.
 
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Piter Georg said:
... I am convinced that there are talented users here who would be happy to help Aleksey90/Алексей90 with ideas.
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No more ideas please ... we already had loads of them. No, it takes someone to actually implement them, not just have them.
If these talented users can provide quest design, renders or at least story writing (making sure that ideas for sexual content fit the story and not the other way around), then it might indeed be a step forward.
 
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Piter Georg said:
Oh, This game is about voyeurs teens on a nudist beach with elements of porn. From the creation of the game until now there is nothing interesting except a broken mouse and the waiting nervous system. The author could have come up with something really interesting if he had read at least one book. Apparently, the author worked on the game alone, and that's why the results are like that. I am convinced that there are talented users here who would be happy to help Aleksey90/Алексей90 with ideas.
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I'm not entirely convinced you've really grasped the core conceit of the genre, also from what I gather Aleksey has plenty of ideas but lacks time and I want this to be encouraging not insulting if you've great ideas why not try and make your own game (there's a help wanted thread so you can cover any skill gaps you may have)
 
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No more ideas please ... we already had loads of them. No, it takes someone to actually implement them, not just have them.
If these talented users can provide quest design, renders or at least story writing (making sure that ideas for sexual content fit the story and not the other way around), then it might indeed be a step forward.
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This is a remake of an almost complete story(the original BB), assuming we ignore the Glamour universe(that's actually a progression of the original).
So the Developer doesn't need ideas or a story.. it's already there... he could just follow the concept of his own project(to expand upon the existing BB universe) and finish the damn game instead of spending years rebuilding it again and again.
It's the same concept with the v.0.01.00 Demo. If he can't include his own story progression in the rebuild, and instead flushes it down the toilet to start over, how can anyone expect him to ever finish the established story?

Might as well slap an abandoned Tag to the BBaS, change the name of the project to something completely irrelevant to BB, and move in this vague new direction. See how far he gets without the BB foundations. See how far anyone who tried that got.

BB is a simple story that could easily be completed in a year, as long as you keep it simple.. but a year's revenue doesn't sound as attractive as a decade one..
 
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This is a remake of an almost complete story(the original BB), assuming we ignore the Glamour universe(that's actually a progression of the original).
So the Developer doesn't need ideas or a story.. it's already there... he could just follow the concept of his own project(to expand upon the existing BB universe) and finish the damn game instead of spending years rebuilding it again and again.
It's the same concept with the v.0.01.00 Demo. If he can't include his own story progression in the rebuild, and instead flushes it down the toilet to start over, how can anyone expect him to ever finish the established story?

Might as well slap an abandoned Tag to the BBaS, change the name of the project to something completely irrelevant to BB, and move in this vague new direction. See how far he getswithout the BB foundations. See how far anyone who tried that got.

BB is a simple story that could easily be completed in a year, as long as you keep it simple.. but a year's revenue doesn't sound as attractive as a decade one..
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So there's a game out there which already has it all and still you are here complaining ...
I can tell you why I am here. Because that other game is junk. It was more of a port to begin with than a remake, they used all the original source material. Now they added more fan art and story arches that don't fit at all. I hope Alexey will NOT copy/paste their ideas and do his own thing. I am confident, since that's what he did in the past.
I put quality over quantity and what Alexey did here is so far the best interprtetation of the premisse. The story is not established (luckily or I would have to fear the return of Alex and that stupid stupid stupid stupid porn movie storyline. Actually I still do, since it was never established, that it's off the table). The games are based on the same premisse, but have different stories. You alreday said it: There already is a remake, so why another one?

I prefer Alexeys story structures a lot more than that incoherent mesh the two other most active parties use at the moment.
But sure, who wants to relive the original and see why I prefer it here, should go and play the Ren'Py Remake. And who wants sex,sex,sex whould play Glamour.

ps: If you think it can be done in a year, why don't you? If this is all just about making money, you would get rich!!! GOGOGO
 
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So there's a game out there which already has it all and still you are here complaining ...
I can tell you why I am here. Because that other game is junk. It was more of a port to begin with than a remake, they used all the original source material. Now they added more fan art and story arches that don't fit at all. I hope Alexey will NOT copy/paste their ideas and do his own thing. I am confident, since that's what he did in the past.
I put quality over quantity and what Alexey did here is so far the best interprtetation of the premisse. The story is not established (luckily or I would have to fear the return of Alex and that stupid stupid stupid stupid porn movie storyline. Actually I still do, since it was never established, that it's off the table). The games are based on the same premisse, but have different stories. You alreday said it: There already is a remake, so why another one?

I prefer Alexeys story structures a lot more than that incoherent mesh the two other most active parties use at the moment.
But sure, who wants to relive the original and see why I prefer it here, should go and play the Ren'Py Remake. And who wants sex,sex,sex whould play Glamour.

ps: If you think it can be done in a year, why don't you? If this is all just about making money, you would get rich!!! GOGOGO
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The other game has more content and progression, and a mix of good and bad renders.. it has progressed way more than this and even the original BB, but as always the Dev chose to turn Ann into a literal prostitute, and the future is Grim.
It's far from "having it all" so i don't know what you're on about.. nor did i even mentioned it in my post..

BBaS HAD superior renders+modelling than Glamour and other spinoffs, but here we are back in the start line with an unknown future. You can be hopeful or be a blind follower in denial.. but the fact is the premise of BBaS was a continuation of BB, and 3years later it went down the drain.
Facts may be hard for some to accept, but that doesn't make the rest "Haters" or whatever you want to call us.

As for the money concept.. you have it backwards.. you don't make a fortune in this industry by respecting your supporters, you do the opposite and milk it/reset/promise for years.. I'm not a follower of any BB dev, and i would never be, since none has shown an achievable development cycle.. and i'm glad to say i haven't wasted a single penny on false promises.. i ain't that naïve. Give me a decent finished product, and i'll gladly pay a full retail price..
 
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The other game has more content and progression, and a mix of good and bad renders.. it has progressed way more than this and even the original BB, but as always the Dev chose to turn Ann into a literal prostitute, and the future is Grim.
It's far from "having it all" so i don't know what you're on about.. nor did i even mentioned it in my post..

BBaS HAD superior renders+modelling than Glamour and other spinoffs, but here we are back in the start line with an unknown future. You can be hopeful or be a blind follower in denial.. but the fact is the premise of BBaS was a continuation of BB, and 3years later it went down the drain.
Facts may be hard for some to accept, but that doesn't make the rest "Haters" or whatever you want to call us.

As for the money concept.. you have it backwards.. you don't make a fortune in this industry by respecting your supporters, you do the opposite and milk it/reset/promise for years.. I'm not a follower of any BB dev, and i would never be, since none has shown an achievable development cycle.. and i'm glad to say i haven't wasted a single penny on false promises.. i ain't that naïve. Give me a decent finished product, and i'll gladly pay a full retail price..
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Well, it sure sounded as if you thought the story was already complete and Alexey only had to replace the renders, that's where "has it all" comes from. If he followed their story however, Ann would be a prostitute again, so I guess that story is indeed different than what you hope to find here and that means someone has to write it, the gameplay, the events, the quests and everything connected.

It's also not just about renders. I like Alexeys aproach to the gameplay a lot more. (Repeatable) side events get influenced by the main quest progress, that's something you don't find in many games. After certain key points in Alice story progress several side events change, the last change was even more dramatic than usual.
He also tries to have a consistent progress without Lisa banging max at the breakfast table while being concerned about anyone finding out about them at another oppurtunity.
His way of story progress is much more elaborated than others. Too many people think 'progression' is only about how fast the girls end up in bed with the MC and while that IS a important factor, it's not the only one.
Would I trade what I like about this game just so Ann ends up with Max quicker? Heck no. I hope he won't change a thing and not listen to all the suggestions how to make 'faster progress'.

One does not need to be a follower or blind in order not to complain or knowing everything better than the dev.
I play the games I like and that's the end of it. Why whine about what I don't like? That's just a waste of time (with one exception: Making fun of Little Sister's gameplay can be entertaining once in a while). I don't call you anything. If you find me calling you something, please point it out.

We agree on the money, I too only pay either for finished products (4000+ games baby, yeah!) or products that have a given production plan and look as if they were made by people who know what they are doing (Kickstarter).
Once BBAS will be complete and sold as a finished product, I'll be glad to play it.
It still doesn't answer the question tho, why you don't finish it within a year as you said would be possible. Go milk your supporters and then sell me the finished product.
 
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