Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

[Nemo56]

and Aleksey usually has multiple outfits and those are split into parts, so they can be combined allowing a large number of variations.
After the rendering the layers are being split too. Instead of saving each image with each possible combination, you have one layer with the background, one with a character, then let's say 4 layers with pants, 4 with panties, 4 with bras, 4 with tops.
Especially in the "changing room" or better one of the girls changing in front of the mirror that number increases when for example the bras are partially or fully shifted. And now of course we have all this in different poses.
I don't know how he creates the layers, but it may even be done by hand, erasing image information that's already visible in the background and character layer. I do hope he uses a script for automated filter for these.
Now all that big bunch of layers needs to be catalogued, he needs to make sure that the naming conventions are kept, the code adapted so it won't try to access a clothing layer that is not present for this scene.

The random scenes in the bedrooms are probably what causes most work. We probably won't see sleep wear during a garden scene. In the garden it's a couple of swimsuits or bikinis. Story scenes are simpler, as there are no random poses for the same event and it's defined better who's wearing what.

 

[keer]

 

[dtukhi]

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Okay! I'll wait for the remaining 2% in 2077.

 

[rabultfe]

Okay! I'll wait for the remaining 2% in 2077.

no it's going to be released soon the twist is after v0.09 they will be releasing rebuild remaster v0.01

 

[Squirtoslav]

no it's going to be released soon the twist is after v0.09 they will be releasing rebuild remaster v0.01

That's right! Why disrupt traditions and stability?

 

[darkloraed]

Where is the Discord link?

 

[GoDfLesH]

Where is the Discord link?

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[selskoni]

Is there a save for 0.6 for the remastered? All saves I tried give error and when I ignore I start at the beginning?

 

[Nemo56]

Is there a save for 0.6 for the remastered? All saves I tried give error and when I ignore I start at the beginning?

That's intentional, saves are not compatible from one sub-update to the next.
Reason: The game is not developed strictly sequencial. Alexey wants the freedom to change something at the beginnin of each chapter until the chapter is finished. If that is done, a savegame from an older sub-version could cause bugs. Therefore loading from different versions is disabled.

If you only want to play once, wait for the next update. The next version will be the final version for this chapter.

It is possible with an engine setting to import old saves, but do so at your own risk, it might cause bugs.

 

[Sohei01]

Where can i download the original for Android??!?

 

[Nemo56]

Where can i download the original for Android??!?

The original Big Brother won't work for Android, as it's made with a native Windows engine.

But you can get the ren'py remake of the original (and tadaa! It's called Big Brother Ren'Py Story Remake)

 

[Family Fun]

I imagine it depends on his skill set, but in my experience with modding in RenPy so far it's not the coding or the writing that takes the majority of the time. The time sink is Daz. You can speed that up to some degree if you have a fast computer but that only affects render times, not set up time. It should get faster with practice but it still takes awhile to do the posing and adjust lighting for each scene.

If you have to optimize the scene to reduce VRAM utilization it takes even more time. I sometimes spent more than 1 hour per image just setting up the scene and then more like 20 minutes actually rendering it. This was with a low end system so my current one could render it a lot faster but that would not help with set up.

Personally, I think his focus on using layers and multiple outfits for the same scene is probably making the coding more complicated and that might be extending development time significantly. I played around with using multiple outfits for the same scenes before I decided it was not worth the hassle. I'll use a different outfit for an entirely new scene but I'll never do the exact same scene with 2 different outfits.

DAZ has absolutely been the killer for every attempt I've made at creating a VN.

The program is huge and has a steep learning curve. Every asset comes with a price tag and often doesn't work as expected. I get frustrated and give up for a few months telling myself I'll try again when the tech or AI improves enough to make it assessable to someone that wants to make a VN for fun and not as a second job.

 

[garyH]

So I understand Eric isn't a major character in the game yet, he's only shown up for 1 "date" so far in my current play through, but I did find this image in the files that has raise a bit of concern for me.

Spoiler: Eric Voyeur scene

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I'm not sure if the scene hasn't been added to the game yet or if I just haven't gotten to it yet, but is shit like that going to be fully avoidable once it is added or will it only be skippable by choosing not view the scene?

Other than the grind, I've enjoyed the game so far. Being able to build the relationships with the family without having Eric around has been great. I'm just worried the game might turn into the same slop as the original, making all the initial relationship building irrelevant, if Eric is added and made unavoidable until we eventually get the option to remove him again. Ideally, the relationship building we're going through in the game at the moment will give us the option to prevent Ann and Eric dating at all based on players choices.

 

[newvoodoo]

Eric is a necessity for this game to be good imo.
I never felt that his existance was the problem in the first place but the way how he was implemented.

It always felt like he was already fucking your LIs after one week while the MC has to grind endlessly to even be able to spy on your sleeping LIs while sitting in a tree house, using cracked binculars, looking through a blurry window while the LI is covered under a blanket anyway...

Make the MC vs Eric dynamic interesting and more like a competition (or pact for that matter) where both have a chance of winning.
I'd imagine that most people wouldn't have much of a problem with Eric if he wasn't written that one sided.

 

[CJAM2002]

Eric is a necessity for this game to be good imo.
I never felt that his existance was the problem in the first place but the way how he was implemented.

It always felt like he was already fucking your LIs after one week while the MC has to grind endlessly to even be able to spy on your sleeping LIs while sitting in a tree house, using cracked binculars, looking through a blurry window while the LI is covered under a blanket anyway...

Make the MC vs Eric dynamic interesting and more like a competition (or pact for that matter) where both have a chance of winning.
I'd imagine that most people wouldn't have much of a problem with Eric if he wasn't written that one sided.

Well, that initial complaint about Eric being too annoying too quickly while Max is still grinding stats is being addressed here. Eric plays a very small role in Chapter 1, and will only start making more consistent appearances in the second chapter of the game. By that point, Max has already started developing his relationships with the girls, and would have increased Stealth and Persuasion capabilities as well.

That's the way to do it imo. Introduce your antagonist but don't make him so much of a threat until you're already on track with the girls.

In the original once Eric started appearing frequently at the end of the second week, you're still barely able to make a dent in Max's influence on the girls, and now you've got to keep Eric's influence in check on Lisa and Alice (more a problem with Alice though), without letting it get too high, or else game over. And that's on top of the stat grinding and money grinding that Max is already doing.

 

[hoshin0119]

Since Erik holds the position of a stepfather to Max, it's normal for the stepfather and the mother to have sex. In fact, it's Max having lustful thoughts about his own mother that's abnormal.

 

[Nemo56]

Since Erik holds the position of a stepfather to Max, it's normal for the stepfather and the mother to have sex. In fact, it's Max having lustful thoughts about his own mother that's abnormal.

well, he's moms boyfriend, not his stepfather, but the rest is right

In the previous stories however, Eric wanted more. He also wanted the girls (where Max could also negotiate, mom and auntie for Eric, Lisa and Alice for Max) and in one version he wanted all of them out of the villa and take it for himself. In either the original or Smirnity mod (I don't know if the content was original or added), he also used a fake ID, in reality was a wanted criminal.

 

[b88m]

Nah. I fkn hate Eric.

 

[Squirtoslav]

Nah. I fkn hate Eric.

Your problems.

 

[tronanon1982]

well, he's moms boyfriend, not his stepfather, but the rest is right

In the previous stories however, Eric wanted more. He also wanted the girls (where Max could also negotiate, mom and auntie for Eric, Lisa and Alice for Max) and in one version he wanted all of them out of the villa and take it for himself. In either the original or Smirnity mod (I don't know if the content was original or added), he also used a fake ID, in reality was a wanted criminal.

What you wrote is all the different paths of development of the relationship with Eric in the original game. At the beginning, you could choose the path of friendship or enmity. And then you could go through the path in different ways. For example, the path of enmity is just finding out that Eric wants to take the house for himself. Max finds out that Eric is not Eric and the mafia is looking for him. Even here, you can turn Eric over to the mafia or blackmail Eric. And the path of friendship eventually turns into the path of enmity and Max sells Eric to a brothel.