Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.09.00] [Aleksey90]

[pootypooty]

Good games often have small features or things that players don't necessarily think about.
Recently saw a post somewhere that was a game dev talking about how they slightly altered the way the money displays in the top of the screen (Or something similar, barely remember it) and that it's something the player would never notice either way. But you add all of those little features and additions together, and it becomes a good game.
Would you rather him pump out updates every week with no attention to detail and then the game's abandoned within a year bc all of the player base got bored?

A clothing system that literally nobody cares about for one character is not one of those little additions that contribute towards making the game good. In contrast, I fully supported him spending time on improving the opportunities system, since that significantly improved playability. This bullshit cosmetics change, on the other hand, is now the reason why he’s spending a whole extra week on bug fixes since apparently it broke the game. Overengineered software and feature creep contributes more towards a game getting abandoned by its developer than a player base getting bored because of “lack of attention to detail” as you proposed.

 

[khumak]

A clothing system that literally nobody cares about for one character is not one of those little additions that contribute towards making the game good. In contrast, I fully supported him spending time on improving the opportunities system, since that significantly improved playability. This bullshit cosmetics change, on the other hand, is now the reason why he’s spending a whole extra week on bug fixes since apparently it broke the game. Overengineered software and feature creep contributes more towards a game getting abandoned by its developer than a player base getting bored because of “lack of attention to detail” as you proposed.

Yeah I used a similar clothing system for part of my mod and it's a pain the ass to do. It requires extra render time without adding any real extra content. It also requires extra code to track which outfit is being worn and thus which image link to use for every individual frame you're displaying. It's more trouble than it's worth IMO. Having a variety of outfits is fine, but IMO as a dev you are better off picking a single outfit for each scene and sticking with it. You can use a different one for each scene if you want without wasting time or effort. Just don't use multiple outfits for the exact same scene.

The only exception I can really think of is if you're using a style where you render the clothing separately from the characters and the backgrounds and in a fairly minimum number of poses. The problem with doing it that way is it's pretty obvious and it doesn't look very good so you're not wasting as much time but you're making significant image quality sacrifices. Flash games like Simbro did it that way.

 

[Lukumoide]

I think that the game developer should realise his vision, only then can we be sure that he will love the work he is doing. We all don't know the plans, so I will never criticise anything. If I can't live with the changes, I can always stop playing the game. I think that at most Aleksey will have to give an explanation to the patrons. I am sure that his ideas will enrich the game. Anyway, I personally am delighted with the game. But what I like doesn't have to please everyone. I hate Eric, but I have to accept that there are people who like him.

 

[Lukumoide]

In my opinion the game has the perfect level of difficulty, it is very pleasant to play and without the slightest problem (there are even too many hints). But it's just my personal opinion.

 

[pootypooty]

Yeah I used a similar clothing system for part of my mod and it's a pain the ass to do. It requires extra render time without adding any real extra content. It also requires extra code to track which outfit is being worn and thus which image link to use for every individual frame you're displaying. It's more trouble than it's worth IMO. Having a variety of outfits is fine, but IMO as a dev you are better off picking a single outfit for each scene and sticking with it. You can use a different one for each scene if you want without wasting time or effort. Just don't use multiple outfits for the exact same scene.

The only exception I can really think of is if you're using a style where you render the clothing separately from the characters and the backgrounds and in a fairly minimum number of poses. The problem with doing it that way is it's pretty obvious and it doesn't look very good so you're not wasting as much time but you're making significant image quality sacrifices. Flash games like Simbro did it that way.

As a software developer, whenever I see the word “global” like on Aleksey’s post, I get PTSD flashbacks hahaha

 

[Lukumoide]

With such extensive changes in the game, I can recommend everyone to start a new game or use the latest saves of Black Panther. Only then can you be sure that everything will work properly.

 

[retroman]

As a software developer, whenever I see the word “global” like on Aleksey’s post, I get PTSD flashbacks hahaha

Then for the love of God, don't decompile the .rpyc files or you risk getting Tourette syndrome as well...

 

[khumak]

It's somewhat subtle, but personally I prefer Aleksy's interpretation of Alice and Lisa's personality compared to DS's original. Ann seems mostly the same to me so far, but I find both Alice and Lisa's personality to be more pleasant in this version than in the original. I'm also definitely looking forward to seeing what part Olivia is going to play. The Olivia path was always my favorite path for Lisa even though it was a dead end in the original.

 

[greenymph]

It's somewhat subtle, but personally I prefer Aleksy's interpretation of Alice and Lisa's personality compared to DS's original. Ann seems mostly the same to me so far, but I find both Alice and Lisa's personality to be more pleasant in this version than in the original. I'm also definitely looking forward to seeing what part Olivia is going to play. The Olivia path was always my favorite path for Lisa even though it was a dead end in the original.

I completly agree with everything you said. I'm just a bit afraid that Kate might change Alice too much when she comes into the game, but we'll see. Aleksey has been doing an amazing job.
As for Ann, i'm still hoping she'll progress and develop an actual personallity. She has always been that character where her amazing looks don't match her bland and sometimes ilogical personality at all...

 

[Deleted member 3355904]

compressed?

 

[Manifold]

It's somewhat subtle, but personally I prefer Aleksy's interpretation of Alice and Lisa's personality compared to DS's original. Ann seems mostly the same to me so far, but I find both Alice and Lisa's personality to be more pleasant in this version than in the original. I'm also definitely looking forward to seeing what part Olivia is going to play. The Olivia path was always my favorite path for Lisa even though it was a dead end in the original.

I agree with what you said about more pleasant personalities in BBAS than the original BB, but this time for Kira and Ann.

On another note, have you played the latest updates of Glamour? It's worth pointing out to Ann and Kira lovers (especially Kira lovers) that DS does give those two characters more credit in Glamour (playing as Max of course). Ann especially comes out as more human than in the original BB, where she was just this annoying post-traumatic snob who remained as psycho-rigid as before, even as she was fucking her own son for money and for pleasure.

So now it seems that Kira worshippers like me can switch from BBAS to Glamour while waiting for the updates for each game, and get some quality time with her as well as with Ann.

 

[Manifold]

I completly agree with everything you said. I'm just a bit afraid that Kate might change Alice too much when she comes into the game, but we'll see. Aleksey has been doing an amazing job.
As for Ann, i'm still hoping she'll progress and develop an actual personallity. She has always been that character where her amazing looks don't match her bland and sometimes ilogical personality at all...

Again, while waiting for the BBAS update, I can tell you Ann is a much better porn character in Glamour than in the original BB.

 

[khumak]

I agree with what you said about more pleasant personalities in BBAS than the original BB, but this time for Kira and Ann.

On another note, have you played the latest updates of Glamour? It's worth pointing out to Ann and Kira lovers (especially Kira lovers) that DS does give those two characters more credit in Glamour (playing as Max of course. Ann especially comes out as more human than in the original BB, where she was just this annoying post-traumatic snob who remained as psycho-rigid as before, even as she was fucking her own son for money and for pleasure.

So now it seems that Kira worshippers like me can switch from BBAS to Glamour while waiting for the updates for each game, and get some quality time with her as well as with Ann.

I've tried Glamour a few times but the path playing as Kate didn't hold much interest for me and the path playing as Max didn't seem very well developed yet. Last time I tried, it seemed like the main draw was to see Max fucking Kate. Maybe there's some more interesting content with Ann/Lisa/Alice that I missed, not sure. So far I definitely prefer Aleksy's remake of BB to either the original BB or to Glamour even though it's not that far along yet.

 

[Manifold]

I've tried Glamour a few times but the path playing as Kate didn't hold much interest for me and the path playing as Max didn't seem very well developed yet. Last time I tried, it seemed like the main draw was to see Max fucking Kate. Maybe there's some more interesting content with Ann/Lisa/Alice that I missed, not sure. So far I definitely prefer Aleksy's remake of BB to either the original BB or to Glamour even though it's not that far along yet.

Well to keep it tight on a thread that isn't on Glamour but BBAS, I can only say this: the Max game is turning out to be a cool porn bonanza, at least for people like me who are here to fap, not for romantic stories. But unfortunately for (Glamour) Kate, the Kate game is the usual DS bore-fest, with stupid grinding and a story that's going nowhere, and nowhere quick.

 

[gelu123]

Well to keep it tight on a thread that isn't on Glamour but BBAS, I can only say this: the Max game is turning out to be a cool porn bonanza, at least for people like me who are here to fap, not for romantic stories. But unfortunately for (Glamour) Kate, the Kate game is the usual DS bore-fest, with stupid grinding and a story that's going nowhere, and nowhere quick.

Patreons vote for more Max content , thats a reason her story is now neglected and intertwines with Max's.

 

[johnyc]

Patreons vote for more Max content , thats a reason her story is now neglected and intertwines with Max's.

Yes and i was one of the voters. Big brother>Kate.

 

[Badboy702019]

I feel I have reached the end of this game version except for the following; Party girl, Hint: We need more gifts for Alice, which means we need to make progress on the blogging opportunity... Is this available in this version or have I missed it? I only followed the walkthrough in the OP until I felt I was near the end. Then I checked the opportunity section and did all except for this one. Please Help and thank you.

 

[.Black Panther.]

I feel I have reached the end of this game version except for the following; Party girl, Hint: We need more gifts for Alice, which means we need to make progress on the blogging opportunity... Is this available in this version or have I missed it? I only followed the walkthrough in the OP until I felt I was near the end. Then I checked the opportunity section and did all except for this one. Please Help and thank you.

send your last save file .we will check it for you
In the next update of walkthrough, this part (party girl) has been improved a bit.

 

[Elemento]

Good. 666 Page =D

 

[Badboy702019]

send your last save file .we will check it for you
In the next update of walkthrough, this part (party girl) has been improved a bit.

I found what I was doing wrong. All complete for now. Thanks for helping.