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kelvinll

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Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version. :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. :) I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

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Maybe other people misunderstand me. But Eric is a resource with a purpose. It's very easy to understand what I tried to convey in my messages and most of them managed to understand I'm sure!

In no time did I say that the producer had to do it the way I was talking. Much less that I know more than the producer. However, the reason Eric exists for the producer!

All characters in the game are a Resource for the producer, which he explores very well!

It's even good for him to get to know the players' feelings, to understand how we feel. Because believe it or not, people get so jealous when they click on the camera and see Eric trying something with girls or getting something with girls!

Eric, for the producer, is obviously a resource!
It doesn't take a lot of intellect to discover something simple!
If Eric weren't a resource, he wouldn't put him in the game, it's that simple!

With him in the game opens the way to see spicy scenes and leave everyone with that jealousy inside you. But it's up to the producer to put the paths he thinks best for your game!

Everyone has their opinion and the cool thing would be if people would stop putting words where they don't understand and understand simple things like that!

And yes, it would be awesome if there were all possible paths inside this game. It would be something really amazing!

Just to complement the text!
 

maxbishup

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Alright.... since the discussion seems to be turning towards (EVIL Scum) Eric again I will throw out some thoughts (then go scrub my brain with Bleach and a wire brush). Again I'll use Spoilers because this is going to be LONG.

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Now that I have given a brief description of my thought on the original we will move on to THIS version. :)

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At this point I feel that Aleksey90 has taken the original idea and GREATLY improved it. For now I accept that (EVIL Scum) Eric is a part of this game, but look forward to him slipping on a Banana peel while crossing the road and being removed by a car. :) I like that I can avoid almost all of the parts I do not enjoy, while other people can enjoy content they like (that I do NOT).

I hope this wasn't to confusing or rambling. I hope that we can agree that this (while developing a bit slower) is a good game.

Just a thought.

P.S. Please join and support your local chapter of CCCBW (Chocolate Chip Cookies for a Better WORLD) today. :)
Yeah, I like toying with Eric, as much as the next guy. You know like, throwing a stick, and watch him fetch it. Then take the stick back and beat him side the head with it. But all good things must come to an end, and like any rabid dog I'll put him down. Now, where did I put that double barrel. :)
 

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Shiva0067 I think you're embellishing the original game too much. Dark Silver can't write for shit, doesn't know how to tell a story, keep things interesting or make erotic situations which are the whole point of the game. Some would argue he doesn't even care, and i agree. Playing Glamour is attrocious, the characters just do leaps in logic that don't make any sense, and Max whole attitude is stomach turning even for incest lovers.
Would it be better with the character Eric? I'm sure it wouldn't because the author is the same. It would just be another shitty character.

Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible. I agree with you, being able to avoid parts that i'm not interested is a big plus. IMO i still think Eric is just an expendable character. The game would work in the same way if he wasn't in the game, since the focus is the progressively corruption of the girls. There's no need for a challenger for that. It's a porn game folks.
But i do understand that there is a significant base os supporters that like Eric, and i can accept that without any problem, as long as me -as the player- can keep avoiding to see parts that i don't want to see.
I think Aleksey has done a good job so far in that aspect.
 

Nemo56

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Shiva0067 ... Aleksey's version is way better in every way possible...
I sure hope the new movie storyline will be very different from the old one because that one was boring as hell, only leading from one lewd scene to the next. Maybe that was because Ann is one of the most uninspiring and dumb characters I have ever seen in one of these games. While the other chars had some kind of agenda, for Ann there was nothing but: "It's a bad thing, I'm a bad mom, but our family needs the money and everyone else seems to be fine with it so let's do it.". There was nothing she actually wanted to achieve.
edit: corrected some typos.
 
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Krugger

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I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.
 
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kelvinll

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I'm laughing a lot when I see people fighting because of Eric. Is it serious that there are still people who stay all day talking about it? I don't understand how people get mad at a porn game. Can't be see another male NPC that many already started raging and get twisted. With almost 2 years of production, is it still on version 0.06? original BB had only 1 year and a half or two years to be abandoned and stopped at version 0.13 and in this game here, it looks like things aren't moving forward. Before it was bimonthly updates, now it's taking almost 6 months and with lots of bugs (not to mention the unnecessary grind).
I now see why so many games fail, because it is difficult to build an erotic and pornographic story with people who are complaining about having seen a male NPC and saying "it has NTR, I don't want it anymore". The BB's story was never really good, Max's character was never good either. What made this game attractive is because of the incest, and not because of the gameplay, the story, the character dialogues, the characters' personalities, none of that. It was because of the incest, the renderings, sex scenes, it gives form in which the erotic corruption was shown. Yes, Big Brother is a different game, a perverted boy who tries to seduce, flirt, corrupt and fuck his family at home, but at some point you're going to say, fuck this story, it sucks, I just want to see the scenes. Of course there's also the fact of the gameplay, which makes it fun, because it's a porn game, so whoever downloads a game just wants to play and not just see CG's. For fuck sake, fight over Eric? I think it's better to bury it, as it seems to take a long time for this game to move forward with updates.

The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!

I understood that the reason he was mad at me is that in my country the word Naive has a different meaning than his country. In what is a quality here, in yours it can be interpreted as a defect!

For those who do not know the naive here in my country, it means being simple, frank and sincere!
But he misinterpreted me because of the different meanings of both countries!

However Eric is something necessary in or anyone else, to give time and development to the game. It's a feature as I've explained it many times!
 

BBC King

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I was going to waste my time answering maxbishup, but apparently he didn't understand anything I was trying to convey. And even in the 2 messages he replied to me, he put phrases that I didn't even mention!

And yes friend Nemo56 you are absolutely right, it is no accident that I gave 5 stars to this game. For the simple fact that you can see what's happening on camera. It was already a huge step forward, something that everyone would love to witness. Even dying of jealousy hahaha
No point trying to communicate with that person. They spend way too much time on this forum RP'ing and talking about killing fictional in game characters as if they are real. Only thing he is good for is leaking patreon images.
 
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Shiva0067

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The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!
You say that The purpose of (EVIL Scum) Eric is to PROLONG the involvement of Max with the ladies. I will have to disagree with you on that. My position is that in the original version of this game the PRIMARY purpose of the outside characters (Eric, Kate, Olivia and the characters in her story) were to delay or even PREVENT the involvement of Max with the ladies (beyond peeking). A secondary purpose of these characters was to allow LEWD scenes to be added, WITHOUT Max doing anything beyond watching. This resulted in an 'INCEST' game with NO incest, until MAJOR changes were made (Removing Eric and Olivia's boyfriend, as well as shifts in the relationship with Alice (and Kate) to allow Max to participate).

In this version these characters seem to be a path to allow some variety that would be difficult (or impossible) to provide with the limited 'Resources' the 5 people living in the house present. How could Max peek on some guy doing naughty things with Ann/Mom if we didn't have some other guy?? Which is harder to develop, Olivia the nudist/naturist influencing Lisa (and maybe others), or spending a LONG time getting Max to do it?? BDSM with Alice would need a LOT of work and time, or you have her in a relationship that already has this (and has the bonus of Lesbian content). Yes, (EVIL Scum) Eric IS a resource. Was he NEEDED in the original or this version?? I feel that he was (and is) NOT needed. Other people think he was (and is). This version provides BOTH options with limited overlap, so I feel it is MUCH better than the original.

You say that (EVIL Scum) Eric was (and is) a resource, well yes ALL the characters in a story are resources to be used in telling a story. Bilbo was a resource used to give a point of view in the Hobbit. Connor Macleod (and the Kurgan) were resources used to show a battle between good and evil in the original Highlander movie. Heck the origins of 'Transporters' in Star Trek was the LACK of resources (The Shuttle Craft models were LATE, and characters needed to be sent to a planet). Also, Mary Poppins was a resource to tell whatever that story was telling us. :) If we use your point of characters as resources then MY point is dealing with how GOOD or BAD those resources have been (and are being) used. My posts (I hope) are NOT a failure to respect the opinions of others, rather they are an attempt so show other possible points of view. Do I agree with your views.. not really. Do I accept that they are your opinions (that others might share).. YES.

As I posted above the original game was in many ways a MESS. Yes greenymph I do agree with you that the writing by DS was NOT good. I will even go further to again point out how inconsistent the focus of the story was with changes from incest, to peeking, to 'Saving the ladies from outsiders', bac to incest, to peeking, to making Porn movies, and more. Heck, there is the confusing part with Alice being a BITCH that becomes more friendly (and almost loving), then suddenly becoming the bitch again and Max almost needing to start over.

The original game DID have something compelling at it's core (that was poorly expressed) which is why so many people are still looking for a better version (and conclusion). THIS game is taking that foundation or core and I feel doing a MUCH better job of presenting it. Have I embellished the original somewhat??? Maybe yes, since it was the game that brought me here. :)

Ok, this (as many of my posts) has gotten VERY long. I hope that this has presented my ideas and will NOT be seen by others as ignoring theirs. Unless you are an EVIL Oatmeal Raisin lover.. then I say.. Neener-neener. :)

Just some thoughts.
 
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kelvinll

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You say that The purpose of (EVIL Scum) Eric is to PROLONG the involvement of Max with the ladies. I will have to disagree with you on that. My position is that in the original version of this game the PRIMARY purpose of the outside characters (Eric, Kate, Olivia and the characters in her story) were to delay or even PREVENT the involvement of Max with the ladies (beyond peeking). A secondary purpose of these characters was to allow LEWD scenes to be added, WITHOUT Max doing anything beyond watching. This resulted in an 'INCEST' game with NO incest, until MAJOR changes were made (Removing Eric and Olivia's boyfriend, as well as shifts in the relationship with Alice (and Kate) to allow Max to participate).

In this version these characters seem to be a path to allow some variety that would be difficult (or impossible) to provide with the limited 'Resources' the 5 people living in the house present. How could Max peek on some guy doing naughty things with Ann/Mom if we didn't have some other guy?? Which is harder to develop, Olivia the nudist/naturist influencing Lisa (and maybe others), or spending a LONG time getting Max to do it?? BDSM with Alice would need a LOT of work and time, or you have her in a relationship that already has this (and has the bonus of Lesbian content). Yes, (EVIL Scum) Eric IS a resource. Was he NEEDED in the original or this version?? I feel that he was (and is) NOT needed. Other people think he was (and is). This version provides BOTH options with limited overlap, so I feel it is MUCH better than the original.

You say that (EVIL Scum) Eric was (and is) a resource, well yes ALL the characters in a story are resources to be used in telling a story. Bilbo was a resource used to give a point of view in the Hobbit. Connor Macleod (and the Kurgan) were resources used to show a battle between good and evil in the original Highlander movie. Heck the origins of 'Transporters' in Star Trek was the LACK of resources (The Shuttle Craft models were LATE, and characters needed to be sent to a planet). Also, Mary Poppins was a resource to tell whatever that story was telling us. :) If we use your point of characters as resources then MY point is dealing with how GOOD or BAD those resources have been (and are being) used. My posts (I hope) are NOT a failure to respect the opinions of others, rather they are an attempt so show other possible points of view. Do I agree with your views.. not really. Do I accept that they are your opinions (that others might share).. YES.

As I posted above the original game was in many ways a MESS. Yes greenymph I do agree with you that the writing by DS was NOT good. I will even go further to again point out how inconsistent the focus of the story was with changes from incest, to peeking, to 'Saving the ladies from outsiders', bac to incest, to peeking, to making Porn movies, and more. Heck, there is the confusing part with Alice being a BITCH that becomes more friendly (and almost loving), then suddenly becoming the bitch again and Max almost needing to start over.

The original game DID have something compelling at it's core (that was poorly expressed) which is why so many people are still looking for a better version (and conclusion). THIS game is taking that foundation or core and I feel doing a MUCH better job of presenting it. Have I embellished the original somewhat??? Maybe yes, since it was the game that brought me here. :)

Ok, this (as many of my posts) has gotten VERY long. I hope that this has presented my ideas and will NOT be seen by others as ignoring theirs. Unless you are an EVIL Oatmeal Raisin lover.. then I say.. Neener-neener. :)

Just some thoughts.

You said exactly what I said!
Prolonging is taking Max's time and giving him only erotic scenes!

When you prevent Max from getting close to the girls, you prolong the time and development of the game. That's exactly my opinion!


I really think Eric was just needed to come up with a few stories that could be several times better!
Where a decent backstory could make life and decisions more compact!
Maybe with Eric you could get to a point where many people wouldn't dream!
But that's just my opinion. Since the last developer put a greedy man where he wanted everything for him!

And you are absolutely right, your opinion is very similar to my point of view, with more details and perceptions!
 
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Krugger

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The question on my part was not discussed. I just wanted to express my opinion that Eric exists only to prolong Max's involvement with the girls.
With the time consumed by Eric causing him to present more erotic scenes leaving the game with that flavor of revenge or not depends on the person. But from what I've seen, some people don't respect other people's opinions and want to put words where they don't! Assuming something that didn't happen at any time!
The fact that without Eric or with Eric this game is very good, because in my opinion it is, and always will be, one of the best games created, not by the story but by the images!

I understood that the reason he was mad at me is that in my country the word Naive has a different meaning than his country. In what is a quality here, in yours it can be interpreted as a defect!

For those who do not know the naive here in my country, it means being simple, frank and sincere!
But he misinterpreted me because of the different meanings of both countries!

However Eric is something necessary in or anyone else, to give time and development to the game. It's a feature as I've explained it many times!
Dude, you weren't the first and it won't be the last for trying to manifest, there is a huge number on this site that hates any type of "NTR" content, most games here tend to be quite vanilla, "the lucky MC who puts honey on his dick and makes any kind of girl fall into his lap". And that's what they want in any BB story, dumb girls, no mocking, girls without their own personality, without blackmailing each other, an MC who doesn't make any effort and a shallow story and uninteresting (Alice, here are some chocolates that don't even have 3% vol. alcohol so I can take off your pants and not try to abuse you because you're drunk and I'm a good little brother). In no time do I want a game where you have to grind, but at the same time be silly enough. So, I see here that "Eric" is being a smokescreen to hide the flaws that this game has, because since the arrival of this character he hasn't stopped talking about him. I followed this game from the beginning, I started to see it as a clone in version 0.2 and most of the time I didn't see almost anyone talking about the same dialogues, the same events, the same grind, nothing, it was just Eric there, Eric here. Is the game bad? no, some gameplay mechanics are fine, others, I just think, my opinion, not. But it's better than the DS, however, the exhaustion of always repeating the same progress remains the same, I just think it got a little worse here.

Anyway, I didn't refer my text to you, I just looked at the previous 2 pages and I still saw people arguing about Eric and his fate, so, as the developer is taking a long time to develop his game and I don't know if it's because of Eric's paths, just kill the character and turn the game into vanilla, where Max will fuck all the girls in the house and get them pregnant and finish the story. So I see this game is just being made fan to fan, nothing more than that. If the DS fan base itself didn't want "Eric" to come back in their Glamour game, here is no different. Most just want to see Max having sex with Ann, Alice, Lisa, Kira or any other girl, without the MC being bothered by some male NPC. Believe me, it's no use trying to express yourself saying that Eric is essential for the development of the story, because even though this is a porn game, many here are jealous of fictional characters.
 

Nemo56

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If the precence of Eric defines for some people if this game is worth playing or if it's all just shallow content with dumb girls, then I suggest looking for a game that actually gives you what you want. If you can live with Eric being gone at some point, you might be fine with this one.

ps: If you want repetitive grinds with repeating content, but a LOT of gilrs to go to bed with, try Glassix.
Once you played that, you will see Big Brother as a fountain of inspiration and fresh ideas.
 

evko

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This game simply needs an antagonist, just like any other. It doesn't matter who it will be, Eric, John, or even Pinocchio... Playing without an opponent is like playing Counter-Strike alone, it gets boring quickly.

p.s. Alexey does not need to ask patrons what he should do. He writes a story, do writers ask readers what they would like to read?
 
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keer

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But you forget about money and salaries! By the way, in 2000, I played Counter-Strike alone.
 

SerafinO

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author why stretch the game so much? this is stupid! I play for a whole month and there is no sex except for my aunt! The most terrible game I've ever played! I think the problem is money!
 
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evko

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But you forget about money and salaries! By the way, in 2000, I played Counter-Strike alone.
Salary? Steve Jobs built an entire empire on the concept of "Users don't know what they want" and there is a queue in stores.

Have you played Counter-Strike even without bots? What were you doing there?
 

divas72

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Говоря об игре "Big Brother" и многочисленных её клонах, большинство упускает один важный момент.
Представьте: Вы видите рекламу фильма, например, "Снайпер", где нарисован боец в камуфляже с винтовкой. Покупаете билет и смотрите фильм.
И что Вы видите? Главный герой за весь фильм делает всего пару выстрелов, но ни в кого не попадает, и всё время бродит по местности (даже не в обмундировании и безоружный), решая свои проблемы кулаками, причем часто не попадая даже по крупной цели. И у вдумчивого критика в итоге возникает вопрос, почему "Снайпер", а не "Сталкер"?
К чему это? Да к тому, что название, и по всей видимости, первоначальный замысел игры подразумевал игровую линию главного героя в роли "Большого Брата" - человека, следящего за каждым шагом определённых людей, и добивающегося своих целей именно посредством этого наблюдения. Даже будучи знакомым с современным "фольклором" англоязычного мира весьма поверхностно, можно уже иметь ассоциацию именно с этим характером (Большой Брат следит за тобой!).
Но даже в противостоянии с Эриком главный герой не использует предназначенного ему названием игры потенциала.
Наблюдая за оригинальной игрой с версии DS 0.2, я вижу полную непоследовательность как сюжетной линии так и игровой механики. Думаю, во многом это заслуга мажоритарных патронов.
В начале я увидел "песочницу", что меня весьма порадовало, но потом это практически превратилось в визуальную новеллу с элементами жесткого гринда, бессмысленного и неизбежного. Причем некоторые регулярные элементы поведения персонажей практически не менялись (или очень мало и медленно менялись) по мере развития отношений. И не отладив эти элементы автор (и авторы) ещё более усложняли игру, добавляя новых персонажей. Отдельные ветки сюжета прорабатывались, а другие оставались в зачаточном состоянии.
Это весьма прискорбно, учитывая первоначальную успешность игры.
В начале это был удачный выбор внешности и характеров персонажей. Затем - этот, не дающий покоя многим комментаторам, ход с добавлением персонажа Эрика, что сделало игру острее, и добавило сильный эмоциональный стимул игрокам. Появление Киры гораздо более спорный ход, несмотря на то, что такой характер необходим, она просто делала очень многие вещи вместо Макса, лишая игрока возможности самому предпринимать что-либо. И это явилось началом конца. С момента появления Киры Макс окончательно лишался возможности стать "Большим Братом", превращаясь окончательно в мальчика на побегушках: "надо поговорить с Кирой", "узнать у Анны её мнение" и ничего не мог сделать по своей воле.
"Другая история" также пошла по этому пути, хотя некоторые надежды всё ещё остаются.
Что хочется пожелать? Больше вариативности в игре. Пусть у Макса будут хотя бы три пути отношений с женщинами: путь обаяния, путь доминирования и путь манипуляций.
В отношении с Эриком должно быть также больше вариантов развития отношений. Противостояние с безусловным проигрышем (Макс отправляется в лагерь, а когда возвращается, видит что всё плохо, семья распалась, судьбы сломаны - месть, тюрьма, "Game over"), противостояние с временным проигрышем (когда он возвращается из лагеря, Эрик ещё не закончил свои дела и Макс продолжает бороться), противостояние с победой и изгнанием Эрика, игра на подчинение Эрика своим интересам (порабощение Эрика, если так можно выразиться), ну и путь наблюдения за действиями Эрика, с возможностью на всём его протяжении начать борьбу. Причем в игре на подчинение Эрика будет всегда существовать риск того, что Эрик просто уйдет (покинет игру по собственной воле). В отношениях с Кирой и Катей также должен присутствовать элемент конкуренции: Макс, пусть и не так драматично, должен бороться с ними за способность вести собственную игру.
Также просто необходимо (удалённо) ввести в игру богатых зрителей онлайн-камер, которые будут давать хорошо оплачиваемые задания, порою совершенно неприличные, распутные и безнравственные (вплоть до заданий на беременность и рождение детей). Торгуясь с ними Макс должен зарабатывать немалые деньги.
Касаемо игровой механики, могу посоветовать вернуть в игру и даже заново добавить показатели отношений женщин с Максом, такие как "Авторитет", "Привязанность (Отношения)", "Стыдливость (Раскрепощённость)", "Уровень отношений", кроме показателя "Настроение" необходим показатель "Сексуальное возбуждение". Это сделает поторение ежедневных событий более осмысленным.
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When talking about the game "Big Brother" and its many clones, most people miss one important point.
Imagine: you see an advertisement for a movie, for example, "Sniper", which depicts a soldier in camouflage with a rifle. Buy a ticket and watch a movie. And what do you see? The main character for the entire film makes only a couple of shots, but does not hit anyone, and all the time wanders around the area (not even in uniform and unarmed), solving his problems with his fists, and often not even hitting a large target. And the thoughtful critic eventually raises the question, why "Sniper" and not "Stalker"?
What is it for? Moreover, the name, and apparently, the original concept of the game implied the game line of the protagonist in the role of "Big Brother" - a person who watches every step of certain people and achieves his goals precisely through this observation.
Even being familiar with the modern "folklore" of the English-speaking world very superficially, you can already have an association with this very character (Big Brother is watching you!).
But even in the confrontation with Eric, the main character does not use the potential intended for him by the name of the game.
Watching the original game since DS 0.2, I see a complete inconsistency in both the storyline and game mechanics. I think this is largely due to the majority patrons.
At the beginning I saw the "sandbox", which made me very happy, but then it practically turned into a visual novel with elements of a hard grind, meaningless and inevitable. Moreover, some of the regular elements of the characters' behavior remained practically unchanged (or very little and slowly changed) as the relationship developed. And without debugging these elements, the author (and authors) further complicated the game by adding new characters. Some branches of the plot were worked out, while others remained in their infancy.
This is unfortunate given the initial success of the game.
In the beginning, it was a good choice of the appearance and character of the characters. Then - this, haunted by many commentators, a move with the addition of the character Eric, which made the game sharper, and added a strong emotional stimulus to the players. The appearance of Kira is a much more controversial move, despite the fact that such a character is necessary, she simply did a lot of things instead of Max, depriving the player of the opportunity to do anything himself. And that was the beginning of the end. From the moment Kira appeared, Max finally lost the opportunity to become "Big Brother", turning completely into an errand boy: "we need to talk to Kira", "ask Anna her opinion" and could not do anything of his own free will. Another Story also took this path, although some hope still lingers.
What would you like to wish? More variability in the game. Let Max have at least three paths of relationship with women: the path of charm, the path of dominance, and the path of manipulation.
In relation to Eric, there should also be more options for the development of the relationship. A confrontation with an unconditional loss (Max goes to the camp, and when he returns, he sees that everything is bad, the family has broken up, destinies are broken - revenge, prison, "Game over"), a confrontation with a temporary loss (when he returns from the camp, Eric has not finished his affairs and Max continues to fight), confrontation with the victory and expulsion of Eric, the game of subordinating Eric to his interests (enslavement of Eric, so to speak), well, the way of observing Eric's actions, with the ability to start a fight throughout its duration. Moreover, in the game of submission to Eric, there will always be a risk that Eric will simply leave (leave the game of his own free will). In relations with Kira and Katya, there must also be an element of competition: Max, albeit not so dramatically, must fight with them for the ability to play his own game.
It is also just necessary (remotely) to introduce into the game rich viewers of online cameras, who will give well-paid tasks, sometimes completely indecent, dissolute and immoral (up to tasks for pregnancy and childbirth). Bargaining with them, Max must earn a lot of money.
With regard to the game mechanics, I can advise you to return to the game and even re-add indicators of women's relations with Max, such as "Authority", "Affection (Relationship)", "Shyness (Liberation)", "Relationship level", in addition to the "Mood" indicator, indicator "Sexual arousal". This will make your daily routine more meaningful.
 

Seraphi23

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Sep 4, 2017
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IMO i still think Eric is just an expendable character. The game would work in the same way if he wasn't in the game, since the focus is the progressively corruption of the girls. There's no need for a challenger for that. It's a porn game folks.
Exactly, it is a game - there is a reason we're wasting hours on grinding it instead of just watching videos on pornhub or whatever. The gaming aspect matters. Eric is only one of the gaming elements wasted in the original game. For example the skill system was not used at all since about the middle of the game, same goes for money, items, shop. The whole spycam system was not used for anything other than giving passive income not needed anyway. I hope this remake will not drop its gaming systems turning into a linear kinetic novel like the original did, but improve them.
 

preskerd

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Sep 27, 2017
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Can we compeltely get rid of Eric now? I remember that the developer clearly promised that we can completely get rid of Eric at 0.6. If he held his promise I want to give the game a chance again
 
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