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at some point in life each person has to make choices. these choices, even if not shared, must be accepted and respected. so we respect the choice of DS.
Now it is unfair to criticize the new game (Glamor) without even having tested, seen, tried ... I personally will evaluate it when it comes out but for now I do not talk about this because this is the discussion on BB and not on Glamor (this will have a discussion of his own, like every new game on this forum).
but speaking of BB I do not think it is in "freeze" mode ..... I think it is definitely abandoned. the reason why? I do not think that started a new project, this is suspended to resume an old one (it was supposed to freeze from 2-3 months ... but I think it will take more time, as long as DS is really looking for and implementing new solutions) .... over time you can lose the thread of history (from the creator), lose motivation, or simply the product has lost interest and fallen into oblivion. so in my opinion BB remains there ... stopped at the next update.
a curiosity .... it was already a few months ago that DS has made the name of this new game ... and seeing (in comparison to the efforts that the other creators are doing in its same situation) with how easily it has abandoned the project in course to give life to a new .... I wonder, if everything was already planned, if you only expected the "push" (Patreon censorship) to leave the old and start with the new ..... but these are only my suppositions ... my thoughts. if BB is "freeze" or "dead" we will find out over time .... how much time? nobody can say
Now it is unfair to criticize the new game (Glamor) without even having tested, seen, tried ... I personally will evaluate it when it comes out but for now I do not talk about this because this is the discussion on BB and not on Glamor (this will have a discussion of his own, like every new game on this forum).
but speaking of BB I do not think it is in "freeze" mode ..... I think it is definitely abandoned. the reason why? I do not think that started a new project, this is suspended to resume an old one (it was supposed to freeze from 2-3 months ... but I think it will take more time, as long as DS is really looking for and implementing new solutions) .... over time you can lose the thread of history (from the creator), lose motivation, or simply the product has lost interest and fallen into oblivion. so in my opinion BB remains there ... stopped at the next update.
a curiosity .... it was already a few months ago that DS has made the name of this new game ... and seeing (in comparison to the efforts that the other creators are doing in its same situation) with how easily it has abandoned the project in course to give life to a new .... I wonder, if everything was already planned, if you only expected the "push" (Patreon censorship) to leave the old and start with the new ..... but these are only my suppositions ... my thoughts. if BB is "freeze" or "dead" we will find out over time .... how much time? nobody can say
- Aug 14, 2017
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No incest, no game. If I wanted vanilla I'd just watch Pornhub video or something like that. The incest story made all the difference.
- Aug 21, 2017
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I was kidding ,never thought it will come true....You make me worry...:OhMyGoodness:
Don’t jinx it! I won't say BB is definitely abandoned forever again.
You have a point.
However.... I supported DS for a year because of BB... Not for glamour or the new Glamour now.
Will it be a good game, probably yes... But i am not paying for that (yet), i am paying for the game BB.
Should a keep paying DS now he froze the game?... If a have a 100% guarantee that BB will continu later this year then i will keep paying him.
But i am not paying someone just for dreams and hopes that he promises, and to be completely honest... How he handled this matter with patreon did not filled me with trust if he promises something
.I really don't know if he continu's BB later this year.
On 1 hand i think that when he starts Glamour that he will lose all his motivation to go back to BB (and thats logical).
But one the other hand, i do believe that he is going to lose quite a bit of money without BB... And nothing motivates people more then money these days....
But i am not paying someone for nothing.
I am paying someone for a product/service, if that product/service is gone it only makes sense that my money goes away with it.
Like i am paying 5 bucks to Crunchyroll every month just for DBS, but when that ends in March my payments will go away with it....
Not going to keep paying for something that's not there
You wrong. There is no compulsion to have sex with any character just because it is possible. The L word. Do you know?
- Sep 11, 2017
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If the female protagonist is/ can be a lesbian, I'll prefer to new game over Big Brother any day, that much is for sure. On the other hand, if not, I wont touch it.
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Thnx @DarkSilver for making an interesting game like BB. Good luck with your new project. Hope that soon you will find a way to give us more updates of BB. Really liked the game.
- Nov 8, 2017
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You have a point.
However.... I supported DS for a year because of BB... Not for glamour or the new Glamour now.
Will it be a good game, probably yes... But i am not paying for that (yet), i am paying for the game BB.
Should a keep paying DS now he froze the game?... If a have a 100% guarantee that BB will continu later this year then i will keep paying him.
But i am not paying someone just for dreams and hopes that he promises, and to be completely honest... How he handled this matter with patreon did not filled me with trust if he promises something
I really don't know if he continu's BB later this year.
On 1 hand i think that when he starts Glamour that he will lose all his motivation to go back to BB (and thats logical).
But one the other hand, i do believe that he is going to lose quite a bit of money without BB... And nothing motivates people more then money these days....
But i am not paying someone for nothing.
I am paying someone for a product/service, if that product/service is gone it only makes sense that my money goes away with it.
Like i am paying 5 bucks to Crunchyroll every month just for DBS, but when that ends in March my payments will go away with it....
Not going to keep paying for something that's not there
i will keep on supporting..everyone needs a income and DarkSliver DID NOT say BB is done..Darksliver said BB is on hold until they work something out..so why not
Is there any way to support dark silver without Patreon? Can you make a donation sait and support your work? I love BB and I want to see the complete version.
- Nov 8, 2017
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How do you plan on making the donation? That is the big question.
Approximately 50% of the patreons use PayPal for their pledges, which means leaving this out is a hefty ditch on the possible donation you can receive.
Pay Pal goes with american law and everything against this, even fiction, will be a no-go for the company.
So the moment you include PayPal on your Site etc. it will only be a matter of time until the same things happen again (ie vdategames once had PayPal support (if i remember correctly that is)).
- Aug 21, 2017
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''Unfortunately, Patreon is only one rock stable platform. It's like Facebook, you may hate it but you have no choice.
Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
Cool~ Eric was planed to be one of the main characters.
Too bad we can't see that part anymore.:FeelsBadMan:
Frankly speaking, I do believe in Glamor. I learn some harsh experience with BB and I hope I will be able to make things better/more attractive. And I will not be forced to switch game in the middle because of NTR/other stuff.
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''Cool~ Eric was planed to be one of the main characters.
Too bad we can't see that part anymore.:FeelsBadMan:
- Oct 31, 2017
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As a patreon I wouldn't mind this plan at all even if I'm really not interested in Glamour. This game/VN/whatever is like a soap now, It's not even about the incest (which I couldn't care less), I care about the characters & would want to see them fully develop - Full Harem, more Kira, more Ann, more everything, this could go on at least another year. If DS stops BB completely I will look elsewhere for release... but I'm sure it won't be in glamour.
Just My 2 cent.
Money makes the world go around.You have a point.
However.... I supported DS for a year because of BB... Not for glamour or the new Glamour now.
Will it be a good game, probably yes... But i am not paying for that (yet), i am paying for the game BB.
Should a keep paying DS now he froze the game?... If a have a 100% guarantee that BB will continu later this year then i will keep paying him.
But i am not paying someone just for dreams and hopes that he promises, and to be completely honest... How he handled this matter with patreon did not filled me with trust if he promises something
I really don't know if he continu's BB later this year.
On 1 hand i think that when he starts Glamour that he will lose all his motivation to go back to BB (and thats logical).
But one the other hand, i do believe that he is going to lose quite a bit of money without BB... And nothing motivates people more then money these days....
But i am not paying someone for nothing.
I am paying someone for a product/service, if that product/service is gone it only makes sense that my money goes away with it.
Like i am paying 5 bucks to Crunchyroll every month just for DBS, but when that ends in March my payments will go away with it....
Not going to keep paying for something that's not there
The main reason DS started doing so well was the success of BB and its ability to attract supporters willing to become his patrons on Parteon. That money kept him going and expanding his development team.
Ending or "freezing" BB will have enormous impact on his revenue so, in a very short time, he will have to face the inevitable - find a new business model to be able to continue with the BB that will guarantee him steady monthly income or stay on Parteon with Glamour, lose 99% of his patrons and fall into oblivion and probably be forced to go look for a modest paying development job in some company to be able to pay his bills.
All hype and nice self promotion effects created with growing BB support will fade in a few months without BB updates and he will slowly fall into oblivion.
Sadly, thats how the world works.
"Freezing" BB for a few months will probably produce a very negative effect even if he succeeds to get some minor traction with his new, by Parteon strict rules, "vanilla" Glamour.
I have no doubt DS is smart enough to take all I said here into account and think twice before deciding how to proceed.
- Aug 21, 2017
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Yeah~and DS can let girls in Glamour play BB with computers to masturbate.
And the TV shows in Glamour is BB scenes.
Super star in Glamour is Max or Eric.
Pornvideo in Glamour are directed by Kira!
BB everywhere x'D
Put some ad in Glamour ,so people new will know that there is one good game on ur Discard.