AkitoH

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It's a simple business model, tease your customers to keep them. Build up the anticipation and the excitement. We will get there slowly step by step. I am not a psychologist, but it is pretty obvious.
I think he is doing right, many games feel not rewarding by getting to the goal to quickly, that's what make this game better than others. The goal must be in sight, but getting there to quickly would be boring. The way he is doing it, is totally fine.
I understand the concept. It's an obvious concept. I'm just tired of seeing Max's erected dick every time he sees skin. Even if we're playing from his perspective, it's annoying. And since he teased a coming sex scene in 0.5, I hope we get to see it.

But I don't really think he's doing it right. There have been a number of sex scenes for Max at this point. Yet we see absolutely nothing. It's one thing to build excitement. It's another thing to blueball the fuck outta us. If Max is seeing Kate masturbating spread eagle, then we should see it from that perspective too, not the back.
 

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I did receive the new pic but it's already posted on here. Was away all day so I couldn't add it on time but either way it's here along with all pics:
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All credit for these pics go to @Andarilho & @L5K & some anons (May the otters bless you) that didn't want to be identified .
 
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dunhill

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This game is very very slowly. With over 20K$ he could produce more quality images as before. I dont unterstand why we dont get the views of the cameras. I want more pics in newer versions not fewer. More side pics and events, different poses, more content.
Dude with over 20K$ he could show us more.......also he raised the goal to quit his job and focus 100% on this project, and what i read, he never quit.
i don't know where or who DS works for but i'm very sure that he isn't making no where near the $20+k he is currently making off Patreon (some people claim he is making $40+k)... the past 3months should cover his whole salary for the year, so its pretty shitty that he didn't quit his job and focus on this full time or at lease hire some other people to help him put out more content... honestly he should hire a writer because the story sucks and has way too many holes to the point where you may think Max is mentally handicap...

i know he (DS) said at the start of this project that he didn't want to quit his job due of uncertainty of being independent but he has long met his quota for quitting his job and living a very comfy life with the amount of money he is making from his Patreon...
 

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i mean that without eric there is nothing more to do than wait for the next sex scene, eric gives some depth to the game, a challenge, someone to beat, put up a struggle
to tell the truth the story sucks and the writing isn't even translated in english all that well... people just like the good visuals and renders at 1st but now its slowly fading away, sure a story needs balance but there is major holes in the story... like sure Erick is mom new BF but after so long the mother was by herself without any relationships, raising her children to only jump in bed with the 1st man that comes along??? LOL that is the direct opposite of what someone like that would do.... with in the 1st 2weeks of the game the mother is already leaving her kids at home to run off to have sex with Eric for the weekend, then even brings in her home without caring what her kids think of this guy??? lulz... if this was a mom that didn't care about he kids and had many relationships then i could understand that type of behavior but its almost like the mom is somehow bipolar and Max is some how mentally handicap (Max can get "illegal sim cards" and weed online but yet he can't find a way to get rid of Erick or better deal with him??)

the better and more logical story would be the mom has a ZERO tolerance and you have to wear her down through the story.... DS is making good money now so he should hire someone like PTOLEMY to write a better story...
 

jaques

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Doesn't really need to quit his job. Pose a couple scenes in the evening. Let it churn a couple of renders out in the next 20 hours or so. @ repeat. The writing couldn't be more than a couple hours each update, the story is hardly a deep, coherent and engaging novel, and is mostly edited anyway by his translators.

As far as coding goes. The framework hasn't really changed since first release, just a couple of tweaks to the menus. So with a proper framework it is pretty much about stringing the renders together with the appropriate triggers.

I am sure he could, and the game would be loads better for it. But why should he when he is harvesting 20k per month with minimal effort?
 

Carmen Sandiego

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to tell the truth the story sucks and the writing isn't even translated in english all that well... people just like the good visuals and renders at 1st but now its slowly fading away, sure a story needs balance but there is major holes in the story... like sure Erick is mom new BF but after so long the mother was by herself without any relationships, raising her children to only jump in bed with the 1st man that comes along??? LOL that is the direct opposite of what someone like that would do.... with in the 1st 2weeks of the game the mother is already leaving her kids at home to run off to have sex with Eric for the weekend, then even brings in her home without caring what her kids think of this guy??? lulz... if this was a mom that didn't care about he kids and had many relationships then i could understand that type of behavior but its almost like the mom is somehow bipolar and Max is some how mentally handicap (Max can get "illegal sim cards" and weed online but yet he can't find a way to get rid of Erick or better deal with him??)

the better and more logical story would be the mom has a ZERO tolerance and you have to wear her down through the story.... DS is making good money now so he should hire someone like PTOLEMY to write a better story...
Pretty much this right here. The game has appeal, lots and lots of appeal, in my mind at least, but much of that appeal is lost due to a somewhat incomprehensible story. Then I wouldn't even mind the story that much if the "stats" played a role in how it developed. For example, If Max's relationship level affected how his mom reacted to shit, or dominance in situations it applied, there could be choices to keep his mom from irrationally amping on him because of Eric. My problem with Eric isn't that he's doing what he's doing, it's that the player has very little that they can do to fight it.

The player should be able to gain and lose relationship level, like dominance, then the interactions in the game would make more sense and it would actually be a game of will being played out between Max and Eric. It would also make the game a lot less linear thus allowing for the situation to seem more natural. Imagine:
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But as of now Max just seems powerless and the relationship dynamics in the game are frustrating as a mf, for me at least. Still, I see potential in the game and I'm waiting to see what the next update will bring.
 

Marine1952

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I know there is a lot of grind in this game, but I think maybe it would be steller if Eric brought some of his pals from work home one weekend for a pool party. If his control over everyone is say 60 or better that way you can have the party or not. If Max and Eric get into a real sqaubble and their relaitionship is to bad maybe Eric could sya to Max "If this keeps up I'll turn this place into a whorehouse." Just thinking about some side quests.
 

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I am still waiting for someone to notice that the house is a multi-floor building but most of the rooms can be peeped from the base floor. The story broke for me already at that point
 
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lWFDl

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This game is very very slowly. With over 20K$ he could produce more quality images as before. I dont unterstand why we dont get the views of the cameras. I want more pics in newer versions not fewer. More side pics and events, different poses, more content.
Dude with over 20K$ he could show us more.......also he raised the goal to quit his job and focus 100% on this project, and what i read, he never quit.
The you should post this on his patreon page.
 
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Fapping_Khajiit

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I just downloaded the game yesterday but cant actually play the game. When its in the starting menu its fine but when I actually try to play all I see is a blank black screen. Can someone help with this?
 

spartan2177

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How do you unlock the new massages with Alice and Eric, they are called n-ea-1, n-ea-2, n-ea-3, n-ea-4. I tried using the search function but with no success, or can someone pls share a save with me, I'm up to around day 200 trying to find these.
 

HappyNuts

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The you should post this on his patreon page.
Dude, 2 months ago, i supported him on patreon. I've already posted it to his site. But when I realized that he did not read any comments or accepted suggestions from patreons, I canceled my support.
Maximum profit, for minimal work.
Maybe he likes dicks + his fetish for voyeurism is strange. 0.5 and we see almost only voyeurism and dicks.
 

lWFDl

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It's interesting, for example there's only one relationship stat check in all of the dialogue (when you try and convince Lisa to tell you Alice's secret, a higher relationship reduces the persuasion difficulty level from 4 to 1). The Max authority stat is only used once, for Alice (to make her undress). And the mood stat gives you a slight modification in dialogue when you give Alice cigarettes, but doesn't have any any effect on her stats.
It's quite obvious just from playing the game that most dialogues stay pretty much identical from the beginning of the game, to the (current) end. It definitely wouldn't hurt to add dialogue/event variations for different skill/character levels.
All games of this kind has this problem! Perhaps you know the game the Twist. There is a point where you gonne fuck in the shower and come inside of her. Your points drop to a point where you can't even touch her breasts but at night you can go to her room and fuck her or she comes to you. But you can't fuck her in the living room or at the pool. because of reasons...
 

sherlockhomes

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i mean that without eric there is nothing more to do than wait for the next sex scene, eric gives some depth to the game, a challenge, someone to beat, put up a struggle
It doesn't make sense anymore, whether Eric stays or he is kicked out. The rivalry/challenge/struggle btw Max and Eric ends in ver 0.4 with Wallet opp. In future updates either Max sides with Eric and let him do whatever he wants(Pro-NTR) or Max kicks him out (Pro-Incest). Now it is all about corrupting Max's family( alone or with Eric).
 

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All games of this kind has this problem! Perhaps you know the game the Twist. There is a point where you gonne fuck in the shower and come inside of her. Your points drop to a point where you can't even touch her breasts but at night you can go to her room and fuck her or she comes to you. But you can't fuck her in the living room or at the pool. because of reasons...
This is utter bullshit. There are many games who take care of proper relationship stats - this is not a common problem in 'proper' designed games. Just to list one that is popular here as well : Son of a bitch

Face it. Big brother lacks a decent story and also decent design. The only thing right now is the nice pictures compared to other 'games' and the visibility of other characters that keeps it apart from many other trashy 'games'. If you compare bad with bad you will always win an argument - but serious comparison is always made against something good or better.

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