Thanks for the assist. now im going to try again but just wanted to give you a bit of a heads up first on something. that first picture in your reply to my post where it looks like mom caught alice and MC, i might have had that conversation i might not have because i remember having mom catch us while i was going down on alice but i dont remember having her come down and sit on the couch like that. i might have accidentally skipped that talking point but im not sure. but i know for a fact i have completed the 2nd picture where alice confronts mom and me, after mom was going down on the MC. After that sequence i went and had anal with Lisa in order to get caught by mom and got caught a few more times but the only dialogue that changed was the fact that at the end alice hints towards the MC possibly thinking of a new punishment and instead of just dressing up the MC has a comment, something like "Yeah (dress up)"
other than that ive already stopped having anal with lisa. i will go back though and attempt to see if i can trigger mom trying to have that conversation with MC and Alice when MC is going down on Alice again.
thanks again for all the help and if i am missing anything please feel free to correct me, or inform me so i can move foward!